Masthead bending aft

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Seebreasy73
Seebreasy73
QLD
334 posts
QLD, 334 posts
1 Nov 2018 7:46am
I just noticed in the marina that the top/mast head is bending aft. It is visually noticeable that the top 20% of the mast is curving backwards. I have not touched the rigging and wondering if this is acceptable.
boty
boty
QLD
685 posts
QLD, 685 posts
1 Nov 2018 8:09am
it is not necessarily bad but if its a fractional rig just let the backstay off, if its masthead tighten up the aft loweres a bit. Fractional depends on mainsail cut generally speaking masthead rigs should be kept as straight as possible (this helps keep forestay tight and reduces sag)
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
1 Nov 2018 8:11pm
boty said..
it is not necessarily bad but if its a fractional rig just let the backstay off, if its masthead tighten up the aft loweres a bit. Fractional depends on mainsail cut generally speaking masthead rigs should be kept as straight as possible (this helps keep forestay tight and reduces sag)

Sorry to say but masthead and fractional rigs should both have pre-bend, about 1/2 thr depth of the mast is a good starting point for a MH rig.

As for the original poster, type of rig number of spreaders and are spreaders swept back?
Kankama
Kankama
NSW
826 posts
NSW, 826 posts
1 Nov 2018 8:55pm
Lots of boats, often fractionals, have quite a bit of mast bend. Rumble will know more than me but I got told by a mast maker and a designer that they liked to see a mast bending forwards in the middle as it made it easier to hold in place.

Usually inverting a mast is a bad idea. I haven't broken many masts but most of those I have have bent backwards in the middle. It is hard to bend the middle of the mast forward too much with the main up as the sailcloth will help stabilise the middle of the mast pumping forward. The cloth cannot help push though. So having the mast want to go forward in the middle and then locking with lowers seems a sensible approach to avoiding inversion.

On my 7/8 rig the designer likes about 1/2 - 3/4 of a mast diameter of prebend forward in the middle. She is pretty rock like so it seems to work for me.
Seebreasy73
Seebreasy73
QLD
334 posts
QLD, 334 posts
1 Nov 2018 8:34pm
rumblefish said..

boty said..
it is not necessarily bad but if its a fractional rig just let the backstay off, if its masthead tighten up the aft loweres a bit. Fractional depends on mainsail cut generally speaking masthead rigs should be kept as straight as possible (this helps keep forestay tight and reduces sag)


Sorry to say but masthead and fractional rigs should both have pre-bend, about 1/2 thr depth of the mast is a good starting point for a MH rig.

As for the original poster, type of rig number of spreaders and are spreaders swept back?


im an idiot. I have looked it today again and it is a normal slight bend to the aft, not at 4/3 height like a fishing hook. Must have had one too many yesterday.

Still, most yachts around me in the marina have no pre-bend in the mast what so ever. And I have not seen one with mast prebent towards the bow.

By the way it is a masthead with ss rigging
Kankama
Kankama
NSW
826 posts
NSW, 826 posts
2 Nov 2018 5:41am
You may have to put your eye on the gooseneck and look up to see any bend. That is how I tune my mast after re-rigging etc. Close one eye and gaze up along the mast track.
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