Prop theft

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keithw
keithw
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16 Apr 2013 10:07am
It appears that a couple of boats in the Balmain area have lost their propellers recently. In all cases the boats have used their motors to tie up to their moorings and the next time they go out they have no prop! The prop can't be located by divers and given the circumstances we think they have been stollen.
the mater has been referred to the police (event No. 50694370) and if anyone in the area has exprienced or heard of any other unexplained prop lost please let the police know. The police can't do alot as you can imagine but the more info they have the more they can do,
I've reported two possible thefts and I have heard of another lost with the same scenario.
MattM14
MattM14
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16 Apr 2013 1:51pm
No further info to add just curious.
You are talking about the props being taken off outboards hanging off the transom of a boat aren't you? Surely not somebody going to the trouble with dive gear to remove the props off the underwater shaft of an inboard? That would seem to me to be an awful lot of trouble to go to.
Ramona
Ramona
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16 Apr 2013 6:42pm
This used to be an occasional problem with fishing vessels on the local slips. The props were taken hostage till the owner settled a few outstanding bills.

I was always concerned of possible theft when my fishing vessel was on the slips for a few days. Large bronze prop, bronze strut and bronze rudder. Metal prices have been low for awhile now so its unlikely a profitable pastime collecting for scrap.
keithw
keithw
NSW
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17 Apr 2013 9:38am
MatM14 said...
No further info to add just curious.
You are talking about the props being taken off outboards hanging off the transom of a boat aren't you? Surely not somebody going to the trouble with dive gear to remove the props off the underwater shaft of an inboard? That would seem to me to be an awful lot of trouble to go to.


The props have been removed from the shafts!! Its up to four boats now,
LooseChange
LooseChange
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17 Apr 2013 1:11pm
MatM14 said...
That would seem to me to be an awful lot of trouble to go to.


Ya reckon? Priced a new prop lately?
MorningBird
MorningBird
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17 Apr 2013 6:45pm
I reckon it would be a lot of trouble for the money.

Selling a 2nd hand prop isn't going to make you rich. Over the past few months I have sold two 2nd hand props, one for $150 and the other for $400 (he over paid!!).

I bought a new Gori two bladed folding for $1400. A few weeks after I bought it a new Gori the same size sold on eBay for $250.

As the thief doesn't know the shaft taper (and often the shaft diameter) until he has it off, stealing one is a gamble that it will be compatible with a specific boat.

Having removed my prop on the hard 3 times over the last few years I respect anybody who can do it under water, especially as the thief doesn't have access inside the boat to hold the shaft. Swinging a hammer under water or getting leverage to loosen the prop would be interesting. A diver I know does do it and he quotes a few hours labour. A thief would need a few tanks of air.

Maybe it is easier on a sail drive, I've never played with one, and the thieves only target them.

Of course, saying your prop has been stolen could be a good way of getting a new one for the price of your insurance excess.
keithw
keithw
NSW
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17 Apr 2013 8:54pm
MorningBird said...
I reckon it would be a lot of trouble for the money.

Selling a 2nd hand prop isn't going to make you rich. Over the past few months I have sold two 2nd hand props, one for $150 and the other for $400 (he over paid!!).

I bought a new Gori two bladed folding for $1400. A few weeks after I bought it a new Gori the same size sold on eBay for $250.

As the thief doesn't know the shaft taper (and often the shaft diameter) until he has it off, stealing one is a gamble that it will be compatible with a specific boat.

Having removed my prop on the hard 3 times over the last few years I respect anybody who can do it under water, especially as the thief doesn't have access inside the boat to hold the shaft. Swinging a hammer under water or getting leverage to loosen the prop would be interesting. A diver I know does do it and he quotes a few hours labour. A thief would need a few tanks of air.

Maybe it is easier on a sail drive, I've never played with one, and the thieves only target them.

Of course, saying your prop has been stolen could be a good way of getting a new one for the price of your insurance excess.



Didn't even bother claiming through the insurance.

The prop does seem to be easy to remove and replace on the sail drive, the machanic used a block to stop the prop from spinning and a spanner to tighten the locking nut and cone 5 mins tops.

MorningBird
MorningBird
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17 Apr 2013 9:47pm
G'day Keith, I thought that might be the case. Getting props off a shaft wouldn't be a profitable exercise.
Aren't sail drive props just on a splined hub?
Ramona
Ramona
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18 Apr 2013 8:37am
I lost a sterndrive prop at sea years ago. If all these missing props are off saildrives it sounds like they came off when the operator put the boat astern picking up the mooring. Props are not easy to find even shallow water. Sydney or Pittwater would be difficult.
CoolRunnings
CoolRunnings
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18 Apr 2013 7:36pm
On a Saildrive with a folding prop,it requires you to back out grub screws,knock out pins to remove the prop blades,which then allows access to the retaining nut.This nut has a locking star washer.
You in effect need allen keys,hammer with drift,screwdriver and socket wrench.
I couldn't imagine anyone going to that trouble underwater to remove a folder and fixed blade props can be bought for peanuts.
Having been on a yacht where the owner proceeded to show me how good it backs up,he slammed it straight into reverse from forward with a resulting 'bang'.
Needless to say the prop was gone and we had to sail a 38 footer from sea onto a tight fore and aft mooring in Wollongong Harbour.(and made it!)
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