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hoop
hoop
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1979 posts
14 Jul 2007 8:16pm
Has Hosko purchased a 14?
hosko
hosko
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14 Jul 2007 8:58pm
hahaha hilarious.
who told you that hoop?
i just bought a house, unlikely that i bought a 14' if someone wants to give me one i won't say no though....
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
15 Jul 2007 10:18am
I was talking to some one yesterday who was going sailing with one of the Cherub guys who's just bought a 14 and he said his name was Someone Hoskins. I thought it might of been you.
Theres a few newcomers from other classes this season. Should be a good fleet.
hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
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15 Jul 2007 11:21am
strange, that is my last name....
but yep isn't me.
i'm putting my efforts into sailing on skandia in the syd-hob.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
15 Jul 2007 6:47pm
How do you go about doing that from over here? Would be fun doing that race on one of the good boats.
big gill
big gill
WA
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15 Jul 2007 9:17pm
shouldnt you guys be using a phone for these conversations????????
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
16 Jul 2007 8:57am
No
hosko
hosko
WA
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WA, 393 posts
16 Jul 2007 12:43pm
shut up little gill.

well i ocean race here on an inglis 47. pimp myself to the relevant people and they become interested. skandia would be a nice boat to sail on. over in 2 days!
Vance
Vance
WA
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WA, 65 posts
16 Jul 2007 1:50pm
A few guys from cherubs have bought 14's for the upcoming season.
You might be thinking of Harskamp?
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
18 Jul 2007 9:21am
Could be .Do you know what boat he bought?
Vance
Vance
WA
65 posts
WA, 65 posts
18 Jul 2007 1:35pm
More Grunt.
BSnappy and The Pest have also been sold to ex cherub sailors.
The i14's will have a good fleet this year.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
18 Jul 2007 7:27pm
I did a training sesion with Rohan on Snappy the other week and the pest was there too. Those guys will both be pretty quick I reckon. More Grunt should be quick too.
What about you Vance ,When are you gonna make the move?
hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
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18 Jul 2007 9:51pm
what are you sailing hoop?

had a call from grant wharrington today, he seems keen on having me on skandia for the november/december races.
i'm fkn stoked.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
18 Jul 2007 10:07pm
Got a new Beebe 2 on the way. First boat I've built and its taken about 3 times longer than I expected, but its looking pretty good.
Nice work getting onto Wild Thing.
Vance
Vance
WA
65 posts
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19 Jul 2007 7:23am
Hoop - Im doing another season in cherubs this year for the Brisbane nationals. Not sure when I'll make the move to 14's, but it will be before the Sydney Worlds for sure.
Ohf Shore
Ohf Shore
WA
65 posts
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22 Jul 2007 9:45pm
Nice work Hosko. I had a ride teed up on it a couple of years back but had other things on at the end of Dec. A lot of people rip the **** out of Worro but I found him to be quite a nice guy

Seems all you need to do is ask the big boat guys over east and you will get a ride.

When's Tony's new boat coming over here? Are you doing Hammo on it?

Cheers

hosko
hosko
WA
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23 Jul 2007 11:24am
yeah he seems like a good bloke from our brief chats.
yep well he knows i'm keen as mustard and basically said if someone is willing to come from interstate to race with them thats all the convincing he needs sorta thing.
tony's new boat? fk knows... thats one thing i don't like about tony is he's all talk alot of the time. he's spending more money on wild one, twin rudders etc (waste of time) so new boat is on the backburner i think. i don't care though i don't see myself sailing with them again.
training for an ironman triathlon wghich is in december and then will hopefullyy have the sydney to hobart so i'm gonna be busy as anyway.
might have to come back and jump on the blue boat haha.
Ohf Shore
Ohf Shore
WA
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WA, 65 posts
23 Jul 2007 1:35pm
Interesting regarding twin rudders. I dont really know that it has helped Wild Side too much.
hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
WA, 393 posts
23 Jul 2007 5:38pm
i don't think it has, but when you spend so much on the conversion anyone with pride is gonna boast how good it is, hence tony believes the hype.
grant reckons the inglis needs a heavier bulb to go any good upwind, i'd be inclined to agree with him. that'd be a better investment than twin rudders.
ahh well i don't think its breaking his bank balance....
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
23 Jul 2007 6:29pm
What's the idea of the twin rudders?
hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
WA, 393 posts
23 Jul 2007 9:00pm
with twin rudders they are inclined from vertical so when the boat is on a heal their is no chance of loosing the helm as the rudder is still close to vertical. i'm not a full bottle on it i'll admit... maybe ohfshore can add some more....

also from what i can tell it must be more suited to boats with flat planing hulls ala open 60's, volvo 70's, inglis 47's & 57's etc. these are the only types of hull shapes which seem to have twin rudders.
Ohf Shore
Ohf Shore
WA
65 posts
WA, 65 posts
25 Jul 2007 11:19pm
Hit the nail on the head Hosko

Port rudder is slightly tilted to port and starbard to starboard so when the boat has for example a 20 degree lean, the leward rudder is almost vertical. You get a great deal more control when you need it.

Only really works with beamy boats, as Hosko said open 60's as per the picture in the link


Also when the boat gets a bit of lean, there is less of the windward rudder in the water therefore reducing drag



http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=44783

www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=44789

Hope that explains it a bit

The problem with the Inglis designed boats, is that with a transom hung rudder, it already sits high in the water, when the boat gets a bit of lean up, you loose half of the traction from the rudder therefore it is easy to stall then wipe out.

hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
WA, 393 posts
26 Jul 2007 10:53am
its also very easy to stall and wipe out when the guy steering doesn't feel the gust coming, boat begin to power up, boat begin to heal, and all the while not adjust his steering to bear away and prevent the broach.
not naming anyone though... haahahaha
Ohf Shore
Ohf Shore
WA
65 posts
WA, 65 posts
26 Jul 2007 1:45pm
yeah I did the Coventry race last year on Fast Forward, 2 of the best wipe outs. Leeward steering wheel was wet when we came back up.

Thats what happens when you pull up the biggest kite you can on a leg where 2 sail reaching would make you charge along

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