Saildrive Problems

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malagate
malagate
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25 May 2016 12:19pm
I have a 2000 model monohull yacht with 21hp Nanni diesel fitted with a Selva sail drive. The engine itself is fine - The sail drive has developed gear problems and basically needs rebuilding. The problems are;
1. I can't buy a new or reconditioned sail drive leg of the same type.
2. Newer sail drives probably won't fit the engine and will require a new engine/sail drive bed - many dollars.
3. Very few people know about or will touch these sail drives.
4. One option id a new engine/saildrive and bed - many many more dollars - and its a 16 year old boat!
5. As we all know, time on the hard stand is expensive and I am trying to find a solution that does not involve the boat sitting on the hard while weeks go by trying to source parts or decide on a plan etc.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on how I might best deal with this.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
seabird
seabird
QLD
227 posts
QLD, 227 posts
25 May 2016 4:28pm
Some ideas:

Have you spoken to a Nanni rep, l'm suprised they can't source a saildrive to suit a 16 year old motor.

Have you considered a second hand sail-drive to suit the Nanni.

Some motor manufactures make saildrive conversion kits, so when you buy their motor you can keep the original saildrive. You may be able to get a kit to enable you to use a different make of sail-drive that will fit on the back of the nanni motor.

good luck
Bruski068
Bruski068
VIC
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VIC, 457 posts
25 May 2016 6:38pm
You could take the saildrive into an engineering workshop and see if they can fix it, or at least fabricate new gears for the old one
HG02
HG02
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cisco
cisco
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QLD, 12365 posts
26 May 2016 1:03am

There are that many people on the forum that have reported big problems with sail drives that convinces me to never own a yacht with a sail drive.

I know this is of no help for your problem but from what I can see you have an expensive exercise ahead of you. It might ease the pain of the expence if you weigh it against the overall value of the vessel on a percentage basis.
twodogs1969
twodogs1969
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
26 May 2016 1:33am
Something to think about.
How long do you plan on keeping your boat. If you plan on keeping it then the cost of replacing both motor and sail drive is an attractive option.
Rebuild Saildrive is $3000-$4000 you still have a 16 year old motor and the cost of rebuilding the sail drive has added no value to the boat. After rebuilding the sail drive in 12 months time your motor goes another $4000-$8000 to rebuild it. Your now getting close to the cost of a new motor and sail drive with 10 years if trouble free use and when you sell it has a 10 year old motor not 30 year old.
malagate
malagate
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3 posts
26 May 2016 6:42am
Hi Seabird, Collins Marine in Sydney are the Ozzie importers and agents for Nanni. While they do offer a kit for the lower end gear setup on my sail drive, they are the ones who told me that you can't get a new version of what I already have and that while a later sail drive might fit, it would require a new engine and sail drive bed. This means a lot of cutting and re-glassing which is probably not worth it for old engine.
malagate
malagate
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3 posts
26 May 2016 6:44am
Two dogs, I have thought about this but doubt my ability to get approval from the Finance Minister (aka wife). Incidentally, I actually have 2 dogs!
scruzin
scruzin
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SA, 564 posts
27 May 2016 4:42pm
I'm curious to know what problems have been reported with sail drives? I've had (2) sail drives on my cat for over 10 years without any problems whatsoever.

OK, I did once twist some heavy fishing line around the prop which damaged the seal and let water in, but that would have occurred with any prop, not just a sail drive.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
27 May 2016 11:17pm
scruzin said..
I'm curious to know what problems have been reported with sail drives? I've had (2) sail drives on my cat for over 10 years without any problems whatsoever.

OK, I did once twist some heavy fishing line around the prop which damaged the seal and let water in, but that would have occurred with any prop, not just a sail drive.


Not quite correct mate. If a fishing line fouls the prop on a conventionaly powered yacht it will usually just foul the A or P bracket bearing which are underwater and water lubricated.

If the fishing line happens to foul the shaft between the A or P bracket and the stern bearing you may have a problem but it is highly unlikely.
HG02
HG02
VIC
5814 posts
VIC, 5814 posts
27 May 2016 11:36pm
scruzin said..
I'm curious to know what problems have been reported with sail drives? I've had (2) sail drives on my cat for over 10 years without any problems whatsoever.

OK, I did once twist some heavy fishing line around the prop which damaged the seal and let water in, but that would have occurred with any prop, not just a sail drive.



Some early design sail drives used cones to drive forward and reverse from memory some owners had trouble be it Bukh or Volvo.
the cones would slip result no drive
My Bukh DV24's sail drive had this problem that's why the owner sold it to me . I sold the sail drive off it to a marine engine shop in Canada he repair it . I think he made one out of two sail drives.
Ive seen on forums some people bed them in again
Ive wondered if it may have been a result of to higher rpm when selecting forward and reverse or selecting either to quickly in the case of manoeuvring in a marina for instance
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