Sailing to Fiji

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japie
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28 Jan 2014 12:40am
Am planning on sailing to Fiji come mid April. Anyone done the trip can offer advice?
cisco
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29 Jan 2014 10:02am
Hey Japs,
I have done the trip the other way and it was from Fiji to Sydney. It was in 1979. Really can't offer much advice on weather and time of year to go but April should have you past the cyclone season though it seems to be running late this year.

Going from Gladstone the sailing should mostly be beam reaching or slightly closer hauled.

I would suggest Noumea as a half way stop and you might pull in at the Chesterfields on the way there. Great diving and fishing.

On my trip we had to sail between Lord Howe and Elizabeth Rock where we encountered a gale and very steep seas and suffered a 180 degree knock down. You will be sailing way north of there and are not likely to encounter anything like that.

An 8 or 10 inch tablet with GPS (Aldi for about $160) with Navionics and appropriate area charts downloaded on to it will give you a very cheap but still sophisticated chart plotter.

This is a brave venture to be doing on a yacht the size of yours. I assume you have her all Australian Registered with required safety gear aboard. If you don't you will be unable to clear customs and immigration.

Best of luck and I hope it all goes well for you. Cheers Cisco.
BobFord
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29 Jan 2014 2:23pm
I've done the passage both way a few times. I think that May/ June is too early. There may not be a cyclone threat but a real risk of East Coast Lows. In my opinion the Coral Sea / Tasman area is the worst place that I have experienced ,in a blow. Having said that , with the use of , say, 3 separate weather prediction sources and a sound boat , the risks are now very small at any time of year. I will be doing the passage in July. Good sailing !
keensailor
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29 Jan 2014 4:25pm
What is the minimum size boat that passage should be attempted in ?
Could you do it in a Northshore 27 ;)
Or would you need something like an Eastcoast 31 or Adams 33 as a minimum.
LooseChange
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29 Jan 2014 6:21pm
I know of people having done it in a Seawind 24. Obviously in a boat that small planning doesn't play as a big a part as what luck does.
cisco
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29 Jan 2014 6:09pm
LooseChange said..

I know of people having done it in a Seawind 24. Obviously in a boat that small planning doesn't play as a big a part as what luck does.


Probably not as obvious to them as it should be.

Interestingly though Alan Lucas' sailing career started on a wallnut shell shaped 30' steely upon which he departed Sydney Harbour with nothing more than a road map. I think it was called Solitaire and there is a boat for sale at Hervey Bay Marina which looks very much like it.

LooseChange
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29 Jan 2014 9:35pm
cisco said..

LooseChange said..

I know of people having done it in a Seawind 24. Obviously in a boat that small planning doesn't play as a big a part as what luck does.


Probably not as obvious to them as it should be.

Interestingly though Alan Lucas' sailing career started on a wallnut shell shaped 30' steely upon which he departed Sydney Harbour with nothing more than a road map. I think it was called Solitaire and there is a boat for sale at Hervey Bay Marina which looks very much like it.



And hence the "luck" part of the statement.
keensailor
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30 Jan 2014 12:03pm
So as a matter of interest, what is a list of 5 types/sizes of yacht would you attempt this passage with.
I know an S&S 34 for starters right ?
LooseChange
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30 Jan 2014 12:38pm
That is a question without answer. There are too many variables to be able to definitively say that you can that you can do that trip in this boat but not in that boat.
If you go over to the Cruiser Forum (www.cruisersforum.com/) and read up on people asking that same question about which boat is best for that world trip they are planning.
They seem to have an innate belief that it's the boat that will make the trip safe and not their level of seamanship and sailing professionalism. Time after time these people will get told that it's more about the sailor than the boat. Most boats are capable but can the same be said about the people sailing them?
There was a case recently of a Beneteau having been washed up on a beach near Coffs Harbour which the owners had abandoned somewhere between NZ and Tahiti (they were rescued by a passing freighter). Now I can't and won't comment on what drove these people to abandon their boat, that was their call alone as they were the ones on the scene and had to make that call. The point is that the boat survived even after the crew thought it would not, and abandoned it.
Beneteaus are often thought of as boats not suited for blue water cruising, yet hundreds do it every day, so the question remains, is it the boat or is it the crew that makes the boat suitable for a particular purpose?
I suggest everyone read the books by Lyn and Larry Pardey and their adventures on Seraffyn.
Charriot
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30 Jan 2014 4:19pm
LCh you right. Guess, make your live easier .
Let me reverse the question.
Which boat is not suitable !!!
My answer is the most of them. Aussie boat market is loaded with ...
Pick the boat you feel comfortable on deck and inside and work on it .
Guarantee, if reasonable prepared and common sense of seamanship, it'll will comply.
BobFord
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30 Jan 2014 5:58pm
The boat is far less important than the seamanship of the Sailor. Rosie Swales rounded the Horn in a small cat. with her children. Many people have crossed the North Atlantic in various contraptions including a row boat and an ex lifeboat. Oh yes , their was the Guy on a Jetski admittedly with back up. However the Tasman- just the one remarkable Guy in a canoe !! I think that in modern times Jessica Watson sets the standard.
LooseChange
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30 Jan 2014 8:41pm
Charriot said..


Let me reverse the question.
Which boat is not suitable !!!
.


Unsuitable is where both the boat and the driver are not prepared for what may or may not confront them.
cisco
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30 Jan 2014 11:48pm
LooseChange said..
And hence the "luck" part of the statement.


"Luck" is where preparedness and opportunity occur at the same time and place.

HaveFun
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31 Jan 2014 11:01am
Spot on Cisco. And if you want an example read Jessica's book and the preparation she did. What is remarkable about Jessica is not that she sailed around the world but rather what she did, in the years after she set her mind to it, that made it possible for her to sail around the world. It is what she did in those years prior to setting off that sets her apart from the wannabes.
Sectorsteve
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2 Mar 2014 10:42am
How's that Hungarian dude sailing solo around the world on a 14 foot thing. You tube Him. It's amazing.vvery big balls.
Wollemi
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2 Mar 2014 12:44pm
cisco said..

This is a brave venture to be doing on a yacht the size of yours.


I'll bite - his profile simply says 'kitesurfing'. Perhaps it is the Minke in the photos?


BobFord said..

The boat is far less important than the seamanship of the Sailor. Rosie Swales rounded the Horn in a small cat. with her children. Many people have crossed the North Atlantic in various contraptions including a row boat and an ex lifeboat. However the Tasman- just the one remarkable Guy in a canoe


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Swale-Pope Each paragraph here seemed astonishing; no talk of her sailing for almost 20 years though, but rather running ultras.

Sea-kayak, not 'canoe', thanks. And that was Blue Mts resident Andrew McAuley, who died kayaking the Tasman in 2007. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_McAuley


HaveFun said..

And if you want an example read Jessica's book and the preparation she did. What is remarkable about Jessica is not that she sailed around the world but rather what she did, in the years after she set her mind to it, that made it possible for her to sail around the world. It is what she did in those years prior to setting off that sets her apart from the wannabes.


It wasn't what she did, it was having chosen her parents wisely to initiate so much.







japie
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1 Jul 2014 12:25pm
Made it, not without incident. Water pump on the engine stuffed and had to sit out a two and a half day lull 200 miles out praying for a southerly. It turned up with bells and whistles blowing 30knots plus. Never thought I would be so relieved to see land.

Nearer my God to thee!

Let the repairs begin!
jbshack
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1 Jul 2014 10:39am
japie said...
Made it, not without incident. Water pump on the engine stuffed and had to sit out a two and a half day lull 200 miles out praying for a southerly. It turned up with bells and whistles blowing 30knots plus. Never thought I would be so relieved to see land.

Nearer my God to thee!

Let the repairs begin!


Huge congrats..Trip of most peoples life time
nswsailor
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1 Jul 2014 6:01pm
Top Hats have done it a few times
cisco
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1 Jul 2014 8:43pm
Good on you japie. You are a brave and determined man.

Did doggie go with you?
japie
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1 Jul 2014 9:02pm
I planned to bring him over via my daughter who flew but costs since I last put h on a plane have blown out. 5 hour flight to Perth in 2009 150$, to Fiji now $2000.!

Every bastard has his hand I'm your pocket, going to see if I can get him freighted on a ship. Not sure if he could have made it on the boat, we nearly didn't !
jbshack
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1 Jul 2014 7:27pm
japie said...
I planned to bring him over via my daughter who flew but costs since I last put h on a plane have blown out. 5 hour flight to Perth in 2009 150$, to Fiji now $2000.!

Every bastard has his hand I'm your pocket, going to see if I can get him freighted on a ship. Not sure if he could have made it on the boat, we nearly didn't !


What have you learnt now you've done it

A few picks of the crossing would be great to see
SandS
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1 Jul 2014 10:41pm


well done japie!!! massive achievement , cant wait for the whole story !!!
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