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southace
southace
SA
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SA, 4803 posts
23 Jun 2015 9:20pm
im thinking about changing my headsail sheet ropes and the control line for the furler with Spectra rope possibly a smaller diameter as my current? Any reasonable comments appreciated cheers.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
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NSW, 1282 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:00pm
Smaller diameter is MUCH harder on the hands...
southace
southace
SA
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SA, 4803 posts
23 Jun 2015 9:48pm
I will have self Taylor's!
Newmo
Newmo
VIC
471 posts
VIC, 471 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:24pm


I think for ease of handling and for your boat size about 10mm would be the min that you should go

Cheers Scott
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:25pm
my view is , stick with the double braid sheets .

may be of benefit for the furler , but like Jethro said , bit harder on the hands .
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2711 posts
NSW, 2711 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:36pm
The only boat I have sailed that had Spectra the rope wouldn't grip in the jaws of the self tailing winches. Might have been the wrong size jaws/rope but it felt like they just had no grip.
DrRog
DrRog
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:37pm
I agree; yes for the furler, no for the sheets with 10mm min - you still have to pull the lines hard and fast when tacking. But if you ever need to put the furling line in the self tailing jaws (they're "self tailers", SA - Taylors is a wine company!) they'll have to be the same diameter or the teeth won't hold the line. But with spectra and a decent furler you should never have to do that (probably not recommended anyways).
southace
southace
SA
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SA, 4803 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:22pm
Currently my Taylor teeth seem a little small for the crusty old sheet ropes I only tack a few times if I have too! I don't see a problem with my hands and I don't even use gloves!
LMY
LMY
NSW
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LMY LMY
NSW, 203 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:53pm
Why would you use spectra on the furling line?

I understand that the main benefit of spectra is the low stretch under load, the only time the furler line has load is if you are using it for reefing. When reefing the load is transferred to the line through the rolled sail so there is lots of "stretch" in the sail any way.


southace
southace
SA
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SA, 4803 posts
23 Jun 2015 10:43pm
Because it's thinner more robust and should out live my life?
cisco
cisco
QLD
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QLD, 12365 posts
24 Jun 2015 12:03am

Spectra for halliards, runners etc yes, but I see no benefit for furling line or sheets and it will not necessarily last any longer than good quality double braid.
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
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24 Jun 2015 12:04am
southace said..
I will have self Taylor's!



When are you going to upgrade to self-tailers? Those self-taylors aren't much chop.

Spectra is a high performance rope and serves no purpose to being used in a non high performance job like a furler line.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
NSW, 1282 posts
24 Jun 2015 8:32am
One positive of spectra on the furling line is it's smaller diameter means more length can be wound onto the drum giving more turns when furling. This would be the only reason I'd use it (but I don't have a furler).
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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24 Jun 2015 9:31am
LooseChange said..

southace said..
I will have self Taylor's!




When are you going to upgrade to self-tailers? Those self-taylors aren't much chop.

Spectra is a high performance rope and serves no purpose to being used in a non high performance job like a furler line.


Spectra is a great cordage for it's specified uses. Unfortunately our local ship chandler in North street only seems to stock Spectra now in the smaller sizes because "it's best you know"!

My genoa sheets are a nice soft wooley double braid. Furler line I dropped down from 8mm double braid to 6mm and transformed its use. I do use a dinghy ratchet block on the furler line too.
Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
24 Jun 2015 9:38am
cisco said..

Spectra for halliards, runners etc yes, but I see no benefit for furling line or sheets and it will not necessarily last any longer than good quality double braid.


+1

Unless you re a particularly hot & fast racing machine, but given you have a furling jib, keep it nice

Poods
hangtime
hangtime
NSW
397 posts
NSW, 397 posts
24 Jun 2015 1:10pm
The small amount of stretch in your Double braid minimises the chances of puling your deck gear and winches out of their rightful place. When spectra sheets load up there is no stretch to soften the load . As Cisco says..... DB for sheets and Spectra for Halyards.
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