Tightening running backstays

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Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
5 Nov 2019 9:30pm
How much pressure show I apply to the winch handle?
The stay are stainless steel so no give.
I am taking the slack out and just adding a little pressure.
Is this correct?
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2680 posts
QLD, 2680 posts
6 Nov 2019 6:07am
HI Bundeenaboy,
In the old IOR era, the standard response when racing was to wind on the backstay till the hatches started jamming from the boat being bent like a banana .
So it can take a lot more than you think. In medium to fresh winds, the amount of pressure in the sails will be pulling your mast out of shape, so give it a bit more than you think you should. Go forward and stand next to the mast and look up as a guide to whether you need more or less. If your mast is bending to the point the midspan of your mainsail is too flat, ease it off.
The other easy way to set the tension is when going to windward, look at your headsail. If the forestay is curved to leeward, you need more backstay. Keep going until the forestay is tensioned properly and nice and straight. You can't point with a soft forestay.
jbear
jbear
NSW
115 posts
NSW, 115 posts
6 Nov 2019 8:09am
Bb you need just enough tension so your mast is straight
You should just play around with them in light winds and see how much bend your mast goes forwards without them on and go from there Your runners like mine are only to support the club staysail
cheers Jb
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
6 Nov 2019 9:17am
Have a play without the sails up.

Wind a bit of runner on to the point you're happy with your inner forestay tension and the sight up the side of the mast.
Your mast should still have some forward (middle forward) prebend, about 1/3 the mast depth.
If the mast is too straight with the runners on then you might need to tighten up on the inner forestay and forward lowers while loosening the aft lowers a bit.
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
2680 posts
QLD, 2680 posts
6 Nov 2019 9:22am
Sorry, didn't read it was runners not a normal backstay, ignore my previous.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3585 posts
NSW, 3585 posts
6 Nov 2019 11:08am
shaggybaxter said..
Keep going until the forestay is tensioned properly and nice and straight. You can't point with a soft forestay.


Depends on the boat and the conditions. Most top boats in many classes ease the rig tension to soften up the forestay in light winds. Classes like Etchells have a pretty soft forestay in all conditions and still point well.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
8 Nov 2019 9:47am
Bundeenabuoy said..
How much pressure show I apply to the winch handle?
The stay are stainless steel so no give.
I am taking the slack out and just adding a little pressure.
Is this correct?


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