Definitely try the 180 or even 140 tail before you decide to get another front wing as coming from a 235 tail you will notice a big difference.

eppo said..

Tacrolimus said..
I am on foil drive prone-too old now to transition from sup to prone on paddle power alone and have HA 1080 but finding it too much on more powerful waves-over waist high.I'm 83kg on 55 L but will transition down to 38L -wondering wether to just go to 880 HA or 780 ???
Also tail advice would be appreciated-I'm thinking going to try 180 from flow235

Have you surfed before? and what age / ability are we talking about.

But either way at 83kg and using a foil drive the 1080 is way too big. Given the info so far i'd say the 880 might be your best bet.

I think the 880 is way too big, at 88kg I sup foil the 780 with shoulder high waves no problem. Haven't tried it with larger waves yet, so don't when will start to feel big. With a foil drive with overhead surf you can go 680 if you know what you are doing, otherwise 780

Tacrolimus said..

bolocom said..

eppo said..

Tacrolimus said..
I am on foil drive prone-too old now to transition from sup to prone on paddle power alone and have HA 1080 but finding it too much on more powerful waves-over waist high.I'm 83kg on 55 L but will transition down to 38L -wondering wether to just go to 880 HA or 780 ???
Also tail advice would be appreciated-I'm thinking going to try 180 from flow235

Have you surfed before? and what age / ability are we talking about.

But either way at 83kg and using a foil drive the 1080 is way too big. Given the info so far i'd say the 880 might be your best bet.

I think the 880 is way too big, at 88kg I sup foil the 780 with shoulder high waves no problem. Haven't tried it with larger waves yet, so don't when will start to feel big. With a foil drive with overhead surf you can go 680 if you know what you are doing, otherwise 780

Thanks,what tail are you on?

195 tail that I chopped and sanded down to ?140? demoed a 140 and didn't feel any significant difference to make me want the real one.

bolocom said..

Tacrolimus said..

bolocom said..

eppo said..

Tacrolimus said..
I am on foil drive prone-too old now to transition from sup to prone on paddle power alone and have HA 1080 but finding it too much on more powerful waves-over waist high.I'm 83kg on 55 L but will transition down to 38L -wondering wether to just go to 880 HA or 780 ???
Also tail advice would be appreciated-I'm thinking going to try 180 from flow235

Have you surfed before? and what age / ability are we talking about.

But either way at 83kg and using a foil drive the 1080 is way too big. Given the info so far i'd say the 880 might be your best bet.

I think the 880 is way too big, at 88kg I sup foil the 780 with shoulder high waves no problem. Haven't tried it with larger waves yet, so don't when will start to feel big. With a foil drive with overhead surf you can go 680 if you know what you are doing, otherwise 780

Thanks,what tail are you on?

195 tail that I chopped and sanded down to ?140? demoed a 140 and didn't feel any significant difference to make me want the real one.

I used the 195 for a long time. 140 is significantly better. Best tail they have made.

Rule of thumb with these FD's on prone larger waves , is obviously the smallest foil you can get up on and not just that you still need enough cm2 to get you through broken water when you are half powered and free foiling. Plus starting is the number one issue. Catching larger waves and trying to pop up down the face is "A" Grade even for me , being able to start without a waves assistance then powering out and turning onto the face of an incoming fat bomb way out wide is as good as it gets. It lets you set your feet properly check out to go right or left and then drop into it..... just so good and such an easy way to get to your feet then onto a wave. Forgetting actual foil brands if you want to free start on smaller foils you need a longer board so forget the 3-7 , I ride everything on a 5-5 x 55 litre .You need the length of the board to build speed to get up. Forgetting foil brands this is my (88kg) combo for flat water starts. 720 or 770 longer fuse larger tail , 850 med fuse med tail , 980 short fuse med tail. The tail becomes pretty important on the FD as it helps with the launch and also stabilizes it on the narrow wing span of the shorter foils same goes for a bit longer fuse. Don't get head strung thinking you need a shorter board it's not the case the extra weight of the battery negates the swing weight of a 5-5 , trust me on this one I have done many hours of testing on this. Back to rear wings its not actual area but actual width or span that makes the huge difference a wider thinner tail makes a massive difference to the smaller foils for launching and stability , leave your shim's in the tool box.