eppo said..





Id give it a few more cracks. I was all at sea (pardon the pun) my first session - and im on an even more flexible 85 mast and a bloody V tail. It was like tripping on acid. Second session started to work out its characteristics.

i then chopped my tips on the V tail - eliminated some.


and yesterday i rode it with a larger flat thin back tail. Even better but drag was apparent.

also pushed it hell far forward (8 ) on the new FG 4'5 prone. Even better.

turned a red plus one shim around to make a minus 1 and whacked the chopped V tail on a zero shim (making minus 1 on the old system) - even better


that being said my son went the other way and went all the way back to 1.5 - felt better for him.

Message is i suppose give it a few cracks again and try to tune and adjust technique - then it comes alive. Its a technical wing until it isnt.

went back out on my 1250 and that felt as dead as a dead dog. its addictive as.


flex is a personal preference thing. I got back on an alloy axis setup the other day, the black series is really sweet actually but felt really dead for me.


Ive seen guys ripping on all different armie wings, axis gear, takuma, lift.. Find ya slot.

TooMuchEpoxy said..










Being 100kgs and an aggressive surf foiler has really put me in a tight spot. Not a lot of reviews I can really trust. Loved my takuma 1210 despot the annoying flex on the rig.. bent a mast. Put an axis mast on it. Loved it for 2 weeks..bent a fuse.

The 925 wing Size is 100% in my ballpark it just needs to be on a reliable setup. I found that flex to be very unreliable. If I'm buying the most expensive setup in the industry I want that SOB to be reliable out of the box. I should be impressed and I'm not.

Anyone 220 lbs plus aggressive surf foiling (3+ loops, cutbacks) on an Armstrong? I'd love to hear from someone else in that range.
Axis mast was fantastic tho so I'll probably go to that next.

Taking it out for another dip today. I'll post some unbiased side by side impressions with the Lift 120.

eppo said..
Fair enough man sounds like the the individual tuning nature built into the armie gear is not for you. Move on and let us know. Maybe try unifoils, heard good things.

kobo said..




Yeh I definitely wouldn't go unifoil , It does seem unusual that you are having this trouble with the setup when others your weight even on SUPs with longer mast and more torque forces haven't .Have you tried another Armstrong setup the same, just to make sure yours doesn't have some fault. Otherwise I'd be going Axis (19mm) ,Starboard or Gofoil (newer models) for stiffer options.

emmafoils said..




I now wing with the 1125 almost exclusively. It took me a couple of sessions to learn to ride it but now everything else feels too draggy. I use the 232 tail. It is infinitely easier than the V which I found very pitch unstable ( even with the 1550). I think part of the problem with the V is that it is so thin, it flexes too much. I may chop a 232 next but don't plan on going back to the V.
I haven't tried the 925 yet but I believe from the out set, they marketed it as having a lower stall speed than the 1125 to address this common criticism of the 1125. In reality, it cannot have a lower stall speed than the 925 and still do everything else that is claimed. Even Armstrong cannot supercede the mathematics of lift.