Best way to learn: behind boat or foil motor?

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61 posts
9 Jul 2024 7:16am
What's the easiest way to learn foiling for a beginner, behind a boat, borrowing a board with those new motors attached and trying that in flat water, an original e-foil or wingfoiling?

By easiest way mean smallest amount of steps to learn to get the foil flying.
camerongraham
camerongraham
NSW
216 posts
NSW, 216 posts
9 Jul 2024 2:36pm
Definitely NOT winging


Tow behind boat with a foil experienced driver and observer is definitely quickest to get up and foiling.

efoil/FoilDrive does take a bit more and is gear sensitive in some respects, also need someone with assisted foil experience to guide you to get up and flying quickly AND safely.
probabli
probabli
WA
35 posts
WA, 35 posts
9 Jul 2024 1:48pm
Behind a boat for sure. If you can wakeboard, you'll probably be able to foil within a session or two behind a boat. Then it's just about getting time on foil.
61 posts
9 Jul 2024 4:51pm
camerongraham said..
Definitely NOT winging


Tow behind boat with a foil experienced driver and observer is definitely quickest to get up and foiling.

efoil/FoilDrive does take a bit more and is gear sensitive in some respects, also need someone with assisted foil experience to guide you to get up and flying quickly AND safely.




Thanks for the response. Does foil size matter for behind the boat? Like do I need to be on a beginner wing behind the boat or does it not matter as much because its in a river and the water is smoother? I'm looking at a beginner wing.
kato
kato
VIC
3532 posts
VIC, 3532 posts
9 Jul 2024 7:17pm
I learnt the foil by wind foiling first, then moved to the wing and finally playing in the waves on the sup. The sup was the hardest one to learn.
activechris
activechris
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
10 Jul 2024 7:13am
100% efoil lesson. I have had every single person I have taken efoiling up in around 15 mins. It's a stepping stone as then I would use a boat to adjust to the lighter and more sensitive setup then onto the waves. The more experienced efoilers that I have taught in the surf have definitely learnt the quickest with one guy geting his first wave after six attempts.
61 posts
10 Jul 2024 5:51am
activechris said..
100% efoil lesson. I have had every single person I have taken efoiling up in around 15 mins. It's a stepping stone as then I would use a boat to adjust to the lighter and more sensitive setup then onto the waves. The more experienced efoilers that I have taught in the surf have definitely learnt the quickest with one guy geting his first wave after six attempts.


Where are you located?
activechris
activechris
NSW
82 posts
NSW, 82 posts
10 Jul 2024 9:20am
supguythesecond said..

activechris said..
100% efoil lesson. I have had every single person I have taken efoiling up in around 15 mins. It's a stepping stone as then I would use a boat to adjust to the lighter and more sensitive setup then onto the waves. The more experienced efoilers that I have taught in the surf have definitely learnt the quickest with one guy geting his first wave after six attempts.



Where are you located?


I am in Byron Bay. I don't do lessons for a living just teach my friends this way. You can look up

au.fliteboard.com/pages/locations

for your closest flite school or search for other brands that do efoil leasons. Also ask around about foil leasons in general. There is a guy in our area that does both efoil and behind a boat.
miamiwngr
miamiwngr
92 posts
92 posts
18 Jul 2024 9:55pm
I think efoil for first session is the best. Then getting a few more hours of foil time is great by efoil or boat. Efoil is great because you control the throttle yourself so you don't need a boat driver to constantly come back for you when you fall. Boat driver needs to go slow btw. Foiling needs less speed than wakeboarding/waterski etc. Advantage with boat is that you can use similar foils and board to what you're planning to use for wing.

I actuallt think the most important advice is regarding foil. You mention a beginner foil. Most of what's labeled a beginner foil in reality means an old bad foil that someone wants to get rid of. Brands still also sell them new. I bought f-one gravity 1800 and 2200 when I started out because they were recommended as beginner foils. They're actually just bad foils and I wasted a ton of money. I bought a seven seas 1400 after and that's effectively what i learned on. I could have bought that foil right away. Something like progression 170 or code 1180 would be great as well to name a few. Pair with long stabilizer and large tail wing for stability. Definitely don't buy someone's old "beginner" foil unless you do some research and the gear is not too old.
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