Like the post says, which one do you prefer and why?

Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.

SUP downwind > Prone surf >>>> wing foil

eppo said..
Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.

Ditto..mind you if you added "tow foil" to the list I'm not so sure then maybe..prone, tow, DW, wing then kite

eppo said..
Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.

What does the prone foil offer you the others don't?

Downwinder said..
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.

What don't you like about winging?

supguythesecond said..

Downwinder said..
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.

What don't you like about winging?

Winging, It's just not for me. I've watched guys Winging in the flat all they Do is go "Up & Back, Up & Back" I find that Quite Boring - then I hear from Guys that Winging gives there Shoulders a Hard Time. So Winging is Not For Me. I have friends who love Winging.

Downwinder said..

supguythesecond said..

Downwinder said..
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.

What don't you like about winging?

Winging, It's just not for me. I've watched guys Winging in the flat all they Do is go "Up & Back, Up & Back" I find that Quite Boring - then I hear from Guys that Winging gives there Shoulders a Hard Time. So Winging is Not For Me. I have friends who love Winging.

Would winging in waves solve this problem or is the also limiting? Down proning feel more like surfing cause you can do more moves, for want of a better word?

Small board and nothing in your hands makes tow foil the winner for me. Over long boards and logistics (relying on other people) after years of SUP dw paddling.

DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.

1) SUP Surf Foil (This list will allow you to foil 99.5% of days)
2) Downwind SUP Foil
3) Micro Wave SUP Foil
4) No wind Downwinding
5) Winging
6) Tow Foiling
7) Flat Water Paddle ups

I FROTH over doing something that was formerly impossible. Surf SUPs meant you could catch big waves and INFINITELY big waves early and easy. Foils made the crap days great. I don't want to yuck on others yum but in my opinion Downwinding is the apex of the sport.

When you share tracks and have a good surf day with 2 or 3 or 4 miles of tracks at a surf break and then your downwind friend shares his 25 mile run averaging 17.5 mph what can you say (to yourself) other than "I have to get better." Piros might say 'lose the weight and try harder.'

Flat water paddle ups SUCK. Downwind logistics SUCK but once you get over that the world is your oyster.

kobo said..
SUP = independent and more wave options

Nice summary!

For the SUP, I would say "different" than just "more".
SUP pros: take off on flatter, fatter, faster waves... and even on the flat for some.
SUP cons: harder with chop (balance) and shorebreak (the paddle and the board volume)

Yesterday I was out at high tide in non-foil SUP with a prone surf foiler. I would never had attempted going out (and in!) through the Hossegor shorebreak with a SUP foil.

Grantmac said..
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.

wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day

supguythesecond said..
And also are you falling off the board and slamming into flat water off with speed often? I want to get into the sport but don't want the head slams.

I dont foil downwind, but got my share of high speed wipeouts (surf, SUP and foil), and I dont think head slams are an issue per se... except for eardrum rupture if you fall flat on your ear.

It happened to me (and my doctor... first day of his mentawai bodyboard trip ) and since then I always wear custom earplugs with a wide external part to protect from ear slams. I would recommend always wearing an ear protection while foiling (ear plug, helmet, hood, hat with ear flaps, headband, ...). Losing your balance to the point of not being able to stand up is something I would not like to happen on a downwind run. Plus eardrums never repair completely: they are made of 2 skin layers, and only one heals.

eppo said..

Grantmac said..
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.

wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day

What stops you?

eppo said..

supguythesecond said..

eppo said..

Grantmac said..
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.

wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day

What stops you?

shoulder and knee issues from 20 years of pounding an over size kite with a tiny twin tip.

But . after the surgeries have done their thing hopefully this summer. All my DW wings this last season (and there were plenty) i was the only winger, the rest DW paddlers. They call me "so 2020".

Were you on an oversized kite so that you would be able to do it even if the winds were light?