Hello. First time posting here. Thanks for everyone on this community who can help me.

As described in the topic, I feel I need a lot of speed to takeoff and start flying compared to those "normal" videos I see on the youtube and everywhere of people pumping and flying with almost no wave. They seem to takeoff without any effort and I have started to think it's not learning curve related. Maybe hardware setup? I'm really frustrated.

My scenario: Im 65kgs/143 lbs and 1,71m/5,6inch tall. Im an experienced sup racer, medium at sup surfing and newbie on sup foiling. After almost 20 sessions foiling, I feel my foil does not take off easily. I have not got to fly more than 4 seconds or even pump and turn easily. Believe me that suddenly stalls to the water after 2 seconds.

My foil was bought on aliexpress to this supplier who told me they make foils for "gofoil". The Foil looks fantastic and its very lightweithed. The mast is 60cm/23inch. The costs was near 467 dollars.

es.aliexpress.com/item/32832517441.html

You can see some photos of my foil: photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM0kV-kk6yPYl6xkeW67V8Wq7c6LW2xLk2aHpp1oR6V8ARrQFLYcqDecuHddg_lZg?key=cFFrcy04UjZGbVZKVWI2d1N3NzEwYTk1Yml5czlR

It was installed by a shaper who did a good job on a Bonz Sup board 8,6 wich I feel really confortable when suping. In my opinion, it has been correctly situated. I attach some picture for your reference.

So, is anyone of you experiencing the same behavior? The idea of the foil was to enjoy surf with those smalle waves but the reality is I need the same wave height than a regular surf session without the foil. So, Why I need the foil?!!! :(

Can the angle of attack the problem of the foil? Thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction. Sorry for my english, it's not my native language. Regards, from Barcelona.

I would say that that there is nothing wrong with the foil.
I would say angle of attack, the front wing base should be parallel with the bottom of the board roughly.
Stand with your back foot over or slightly back of the mast.
Kick the foil up as if on a skate board.
Cheers
Steve

Hi there Z

I've got the same foil, and as RJK says - it's nothing like the thickness of a GoFoil or Naish. I can glide it OK surf-foiling, but had a useless experience SUPfoiling on it - just not enough lift with the extra weight above water. So my advice is bolt it on a surfboard and enjoy not having to worry about beating it into rocks - they are indestructible!

Thanks for all received answers. Wow, I was thinking I have been the only one who bought this foil.
As I expected, the foil design seems to be the problem. Tomorrow I'll take some closer photos and will post some of them.

Honestly, the price of those foils like takuma or gofoil is extremely expensive. Can someone of you recomend and "medium-quality" foil wich will takeoff slower?

I hope that all of us can enjoy supfoiling in a cheapper way

Again, thanks to everybody for this valuable info

zrylux said..
Thanks for all received answers. Wow, I was thinking I have been the only one who bought this foil.
As I expected, the foil design seems to be the problem. Tomorrow I'll take some closer photos and will post some of them.

Honestly, the price of those foils like takuma or gofoil is extremely expensive. Can someone of you recomend and "medium-quality" foil wich will takeoff slower?

I hope that all of us can enjoy supfoiling in a cheapper way

Again, thanks to everybody for this valuable info

If you have anyone with some composite skills you could quite easily modify the wing to give it more lift, if I was still in aus I would have done it for you.

I went a sling shot h4 due to mortgage/kids factor. I can't compare to the others as I haven't tried them but am finding it completely adequate/fun to learn on. Forums definitely advocate the go foil is wonderful but u do t need to shoot for the stars.

Eg One wouldn't buy a top of the range kite to learn on...so many are offered at a better price point that would more than admirably do the job into intermediate level skills...

....but, depends on your cash circumstances....

stevet73 said..
Just looked at the photos of the foil. My inexperienced observation was the board....looks like a more performance oriented sup that would need a bit more to get going regardless of foil....

Parallel rails and a forgiving volume was suggested when I was sourcing a craft to convert... starboard hypernut was then chosen.

But, I'm still learning the foil...so I'm really in no position to provide legitimate suggestions....

zrylux,
Hola,
I agree with Steve. I'm using a Starboard Pocket Rocket about 10 years old - 8'5" long, 30" wide and 130 litres.
Your experiences are similar to mine but you have been going for longer.
See:
supwindfoil.blogspot.com/

for all the things I have learnt.
Especially the idea that:
1. on takeoff the foil can be be at an angle that is actually diving (not lifting);
2. you have to avoid the foil lifting out of the water, if it does it will stall and the board will nose dive.

Oh and try kneeling up to learn not standing up:
kneelupps.blogspot.com.au
Includes things like paddle length to get you on your knees.