2016 Starboard Allstar 14 x 25 hybrid /carbon

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Abdillam
Abdillam
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30 Sep 2015 9:29pm
Only just managed to get it home and unpacked before rushing off to work this afternoon...few quick pics. Thanks to the guys at Zu Boardsports and Starboard SUP











AndyR
AndyR
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2 Oct 2015 4:11pm
Paddled it yet?
I was really impressed with the weight of it compared to the carbon.
PTWoody
PTWoody
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2 Oct 2015 7:30pm
AndyR said..
Paddled it yet?
I was really impressed with the weight of it compared to the carbon.


Yeah they are a very good weight in comparison to the full carbon.
Abdillam
Abdillam
VIC
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3 Oct 2015 6:10am
Had a couple of quick paddles but only in glassy conditions. Super stable. Feels wider than 25. Nice flat water glide too. Can't wait to get some downwind bumps...
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
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3 Oct 2015 11:41am
PTWoody said..

AndyR said..
Paddled it yet?
I was really impressed with the weight of it compared to the carbon.



Yeah they are a very good weight in comparison to the full carbon.


yeah for $4800 you been expecting the full carbon to be a lot lighter than it is for that kind of money.

unless they give two bars for gold bullion with even purchase
AndyR
AndyR
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4 Oct 2015 7:21pm
laceys lane said...
PTWoody said..

AndyR said..
Paddled it yet?
I was really impressed with the weight of it compared to the carbon.



Yeah they are a very good weight in comparison to the full carbon.


yeah for $4800 you been expecting the full carbon to be a lot lighter than it is for that kind of money.

unless they give two bars for gold bullion with even purchase



Yeah agree can't really see where the full carbon is worth it in the all star. Makes sense for the ace and the sprint but the hybrid all stars in 12"6 and 14 all seem fairly light to me compared to the full carbon and at only 3k that's a bullet proof light board.
dean75
dean75
49 posts
49 posts
5 Oct 2015 9:28pm
I'm thinking about the 25 but at 96 kgs might be to tippy for me anyone of my sort of weight tried it?
SurfNiels
SurfNiels
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6 Oct 2015 1:14am
Looks better without the carbon-red-reindeer nose IMO
AndyR
AndyR
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6 Oct 2015 1:16pm
SurfNiels said...
Looks better without the carbon-red-reindeer nose IMO


Agree red nose looks stupid. Actually makes
The nose look bigger than it is. This one above looks mor
Sleek
Abdillam
Abdillam
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6 Oct 2015 5:10pm
25 is crazy stable. To me feels like a 28. I'm 75kgs and 175cm.
FIN555
FIN555
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6 Oct 2015 5:00pm
Anybody know the weight difference between hybrid Carbon and Carbon. Starboards 2016 site has been down for a week now. I'm thinking of getting the 14x23" allstar but would like to know whats the weight difference. I'm 70kg and 175cm been paddling the 2014 12'6" x 25,5" Allstar which is very stable for me. I'm thinking i can get away with 23" in 14" long board. I have heard that the new Allstar design is quite stable as Abdillam stated also.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
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6 Oct 2015 8:25pm
FIN555 said..
Anybody know the weight difference between hybrid Carbon and Carbon. Starboards 2016 site has been down for a week now. I'm thinking of getting the 14x23" allstar but would like to know whats the weight difference. I'm 70kg and 175cm been paddling the 2014 12'6" x 25,5" Allstar which is very stable for me. I'm thinking i can get away with 23" in 14" long board. I have heard that the new Allstar design is quite stable as Abdillam stated also.



beau has been talking it up, the 23". I had a paddle quick paddle and yes its stable. felt a bit heavy in the nose to what im used to .

but it does really go. and hard to believe its only 23" wide.

probably the world most stable 23" board easy


he'll using it in the paddle games. didn't seem troubled in and out of the surf on it at training. im taking into account how good he's too
supsurfers
supsurfers
QLD
171 posts
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7 Oct 2015 10:43am
I think the guys said the weight difference between the 2 board's was in the 14x25 was just under 2kgs
nosaj27
nosaj27
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7 Oct 2015 12:13pm
dean75 said..
I'm thinking about the 25 but at 96 kgs might be to tippy for me anyone of my sort of weight tried it?


I paddled both the 25" and 27" 14' Hybrid Carbon Allstars and I found the 25" a little tippy for me, but would probably be ok if only paddling flatwater. The 27" was super stable and felt as stable if not more so than my 2014 14' x 28" Allstar.
I am 6'1" and 105kgs
AndyR
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7 Oct 2015 1:01pm
laceys lane said..

FIN555 said..
Anybody know the weight difference between hybrid Carbon and Carbon. Starboards 2016 site has been down for a week now. I'm thinking of getting the 14x23" allstar but would like to know whats the weight difference. I'm 70kg and 175cm been paddling the 2014 12'6" x 25,5" Allstar which is very stable for me. I'm thinking i can get away with 23" in 14" long board. I have heard that the new Allstar design is quite stable as Abdillam stated also.




beau has been talking it up, the 23". I had a paddle quick paddle and yes its stable. felt a bit heavy in the nose to what im used to .

but it does really go. and hard to believe its only 23" wide.

probably the world most stable 23" board easy


he'll using it in the paddle games. didn't seem troubled in and out of the surf on it at training. im taking into account how good he's too


more stability than the 23 sprint lace??
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
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7 Oct 2015 6:12pm
FIN555 said..
Anybody know the weight difference between hybrid Carbon and Carbon. Starboards 2016 site has been down for a week now. I'm thinking of getting the 14x23" allstar but would like to know whats the weight difference. I'm 70kg and 175cm been paddling the 2014 12'6" x 25,5" Allstar which is very stable for me. I'm thinking i can get away with 23" in 14" long board. I have heard that the new Allstar design is quite stable as Abdillam stated also.


I've only been able to compare the 28" in carbon vs 25" and 27" in hybrid but I would guess it's about 1.5 kg difference or thereabouts. The new shapes are definitely more stable than the old ones. I'm about your height and weight and I never had a problem with the 25.5 from 2014. However I always found the shift from the 25" Ace down to the 23" Ace just a little too much for my liking. Not sure if the All Star will be the same.
laceys lane
laceys lane
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7 Oct 2015 5:47pm
AndyR said...
laceys lane said..

FIN555 said..
Anybody know the weight difference between hybrid Carbon and Carbon. Starboards 2016 site has been down for a week now. I'm thinking of getting the 14x23" allstar but would like to know whats the weight difference. I'm 70kg and 175cm been paddling the 2014 12'6" x 25,5" Allstar which is very stable for me. I'm thinking i can get away with 23" in 14" long board. I have heard that the new Allstar design is quite stable as Abdillam stated also.




beau has been talking it up, the 23". I had a paddle quick paddle and yes its stable. felt a bit heavy in the nose to what im used to .

but it does really go. and hard to believe its only 23" wide.

probably the world most stable 23" board easy


he'll using it in the paddle games. didn't seem troubled in and out of the surf on it at training. im taking into account how good he's too


more stability than the 23 sprint lace??


Yeah. For sure
FIN555
FIN555
30 posts
30 posts
14 Oct 2015 4:24pm
Thanks for the comments everybody. Starboards 2016 website is running again (http://star-board-sup.com/2016/boards/14-0-x-23-all-star/). The listed difference in weight is 1,74kg. And if you calculate the +-10% tolerance out the difference might only be 1,4kg. I'm thinking of getting the Hybrid Carbon if i also upgrade my 12'6". It would be nice to test the two versions side by side, is the weight difference noticeable when paddling. I know it is not the same think if i just loose the 2kg from my body.
Auswind
Auswind
WA
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WA, 398 posts
21 Oct 2015 8:45am


DesRes
DesRes
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1 posts
6 Nov 2015 3:53pm
Thanks for posting the photos and info. Looks really good. I've ordered to 12' 6" x 25", due in the UK in December. Looking forward to paddling it!
Argosi
Argosi
66 posts
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13 Nov 2015 11:48pm
Can anyone give us some thoughts on how the 2016 All Star 14x25 performs downwind compared with the 2015 model?

I'm especially wondering how well the board carves and turns when on a bump compared to the 2015 model as well as some other top 14' downwind oriented boards e.g., Bullet v2, 2014/15 Fanatic Falcon, Naish Maliko, Ace, etc.

Also, how well does it catch bumps and glide compared to other boards?

I've got an Ace and love how well it catches bumps and glides (no better 14' board for that?) but I'm looking to have some more fun turning on the bumps when the conditions are good e.g., 25-35mph winds.
Stumpi
Stumpi
VIC
186 posts
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20 Jan 2016 7:26pm
Hey all,

I had the opportunity to ride and evaluate the 2015 and 2016 Allstars Tuesday while in WA.

The 2015 14x26 (Carbon) was the board I spent the majority of my time on, expecting that it was going to be the one I bought.
Its a solid, fast, mildly tippy (in wakes and chop) for me board and I found that to step back and turn it was harder work than expected, of course I was only on it an hour and a half so this is only a short report and given the time I would have hopefully mastered the right balance point to achieve a better more confident turn. I was also paddling with a crew so didn't give me much time for this.

As we paddled back after the training session Ian from Auswind (thanks again mate) gave me the 2016 Allstar 14x25 (Hybrid Carbon) which I was initially reluctant to try thinking at 25" it was going to be less stable than the 2015 26" wide board.

All I can say is WOW! It was instantly quicker, felt more stable and allowed me to step back almost straight away to turn it. The performance difference between the two boards is night and day, better in favour of the 2016.. It also tracks better needing less course correction.

I loved it so much I've gone straight out and put a deposit on one.

How it rides in the waves is yet to be seen, this is a progression board for me so I'm expecting to swim a little in that process but if it behaves as well in the waves and down winding as it does on the flat, wind and mild chop then this is truly the best Allstar to date. Don't listen to the doubters about the odd hull configuration either, it absolutely works.

Hope that helps...


Argosi
Argosi
66 posts
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21 Jan 2016 11:19am
Thanks for the review Stumpi. Question- in 2015, there was no 14x26 All Star, just 14x25 and 14x28. They did have a 2015 12'6"x26 All Star though. Can you clarify which 2015 board you tried?

Here's a 7.5 minute video review of the 2016 14x25 All Star by SUPBoarderMag.com from the UK:
They really like the board.
salishsalt
salishsalt
1 posts
1 posts
24 Jan 2016 2:46pm
different review
baddog
baddog
256 posts
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24 Jan 2016 11:34pm
salishsalt said..
different review


Like this except let's toss in the 2014 All Star.
Stumpi
Stumpi
VIC
186 posts
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3 Feb 2016 4:30am
Lol,

Interesting review. Noting that they make a point that they have 2015 Allstars on discount lol.

Slab
Slab
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5 Mar 2016 7:33pm
Stumpi said..
Lol,

Interesting review. Noting that they make a point that they have 2015 Allstars on discount lol.



Clever way to sell off the old stock
Area10
Area10
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7 Mar 2016 2:20pm
Slab said...
Stumpi said..
Lol,

Interesting review. Noting that they make a point that they have 2015 Allstars on discount lol.



Clever way to sell off the old stock


Yeah, but it does beg a question about whether subsequent years' models are better than the last. (Although I'm not saying that this has happened here). I think there have been a few times from the major brands when the new model has been inferior to it's predecessor.
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