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Created by Foam 1 month ago, 21 Apr 2018
Foam
616 posts
21 Apr 2018 8:00AM
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88kg

9,0x 29 at 128 litres

8,5 x29 at 112 litres

intermediate paddler in all or most conditions

common sence say 128 litres as per my last board at 128 but is 16 litres huge difference
starboard recomend up to 90kg for the 8,5 and 95kg for the 9,0

im sure from memory I was in the hard choice before with jp over 8,10 vs 8,6

CAPWP
58 posts
21 Apr 2018 9:28AM
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I have the SB pro 8x29 2015, i am In 85 kg no problem at all.
But sometimes when used a wetsuit the board feel more unstable but in overall is not big deal.


Foam
616 posts
21 Apr 2018 10:36AM
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Yea, issue is I was 85kg then had time off, now 90kg plus wetsuit , so do I go 8,5 and loose the weight or stick to the 9,0 at 128 litres same as my old board

benjl
58 posts
21 Apr 2018 12:17PM
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Big difference in stability between 2015 models and 2017 models.. new models are much less stable. Go for
the 9'0 unless you ride a lot of glassy conditions.

i had the 2017 8'5 at 72kg and it was a struggle in chop. I sold it in frustration of coming off and missing waves. The guy I sold it to was about 75kg and after 3 surfs he said he could barely stand on it and also got rid of it.

2015 models were flat decked, lower rocker, more forgiving rails and nose width.

Foam
616 posts
21 Apr 2018 1:45PM
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benjl said..
Big difference in stability between 2015 models and 2017 models.. new models are much less stable. Go for
the 9'0 unless you ride a lot of glassy conditions.

i had the 2017 8'5 at 72kg and it was a struggle in chop. I sold it in frustration of coming off and missing waves. The guy I sold it to was about 75kg and after 3 surfs he said he could barely stand on it and also got rid of it.

2015 models were flat decked, lower rocker, more forgiving rails and nose width.


Cheers, I was looking at the 2018 looks the same as 2017

fm1
WA, 44 posts
22 Apr 2018 4:17AM
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2017 is same as 2018 - I didn't find that much difference if any 2015 to 2017/18 stability wise ...actually thought the 17/18 8'5 was more stable ...and rail to rail better ..the 2015 are great boards though ....have a look at the starboard nut 8'5 x 29 if you're worried about stability - it's a great all-rounder and very easy to use but still decent performance...the pros are just sharper in performance as you'd expect

Foam
616 posts
22 Apr 2018 1:23PM
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You mean if worried go 9,0 x29 I'm 90kg

Foam
616 posts
23 Apr 2018 10:42AM
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What about a good compromise ... Naish mad dog 8,6 x29 @121 litres would ing be near the bottom to top surfing of the starboard pro though

benjl
58 posts
23 Apr 2018 11:20AM
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I haven't tried that one as a comparison but it does get good reviews. A lot thicker profile although this might taper a lot in to the domed deck but haven't felt one in person side by side with the starboard

Foam
616 posts
23 Apr 2018 2:44PM
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benjl said..
I haven't tried that one as a comparison but it does get good reviews. A lot thicker profile although this might taper a lot in to the domed deck but haven't felt one in person side by side with the starboard


Yes correct, quite a thick rail, was 8,6x29 @121 litres conditions amp but chop , unstable board for most part but ok
water was at rail edge so not bad for 90kgs but I thought it was the paint job but guess not it is in fact a large rail
going on the 121 litres of this board it would point to the 9,0 starboard being a bit much at 128 but it's the rails if the rails are very pulled down then I think I might be in the water . Two very different boards to look at

Foam
616 posts
23 Apr 2018 2:45PM
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That deck on the Naish is more unstable than jp the sweet spot is far forward of the handle bit of a pain on take off I'm sure the big boxy rails add to its instability

Zeusman
NSW, 1174 posts
23 Apr 2018 6:56PM
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Naish did a limited run of the Hokua GTW shape in an LE construction. They came in 9'6", 9'0" and 8'6". Same dimensions as the GTW line. I had the 9'6" for over a year and loved it. Only sold due to financial issues. Could be something to look into.

Foam
616 posts
23 Apr 2018 5:10PM
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Thanks mate, yea I have it down to two boards now , Naish or the starboard pro 9,0 but was haveing thoughts of the 8,5 pro but I'm comfortable on my 8,10 at 128 jp so going to the 8,5 starboard might just be to much of worry I don't need at about 90kg and I sup in all conditions as possible

benjl
58 posts
23 Apr 2018 5:38PM
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interesting feedback- the rails of my 8'5 were definitely quite tapered down and would suggest the 9'0 would be similar.
There was a big jump between the 2015 and 2017 models if you read some of the reviews and testing from sponsored riders between the two

Foam
616 posts
23 Apr 2018 5:39PM
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Zeusman said..
Naish did a limited run of the Hokua GTW shape in an LE construction. They came in 9'6", 9'0" and 8'6". Same dimensions as the GTW line. I had the 9'6" for over a year and loved it. Only sold due to financial issues. Could be something to look into.


Answears below, don't get me wrong, the Naish is stable I am just thinking the boxy rails are a bit of a downfall and may add to the instability I found , but in clean it would be simple enough , one thing I would bitch about with it though is with having to stand far forward of the handle it's two steps back to the tail

fm1
WA, 44 posts
23 Apr 2018 8:02PM
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Foam said..
You mean if worried go 9,0 x29 I'm 90kg


No I meant an alternative to the 8'5 pro is the starboard 8'5 x 29 nut - 118 L - very very easy board to use with a wide range, small to big, choppy to clean - think wideish nose for wave catching, ease of paddling and stability but pulled in tail for performance, the pro boards are better as you would expect in better waves and offer more top end performance

micksmith
VIC, 1145 posts
24 Apr 2018 6:51AM
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lose some of that ballast and get the 8'5" pro, particularly if you already have a board in the 120lt range.
I have the 8' SB pro at 84kg + wetty and its great, backed up by a 10'er for smaller choppy days (covered)

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 5:08AM
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Hi, no I had a jp surf 128 litres I was trying out a Naish it was 121 litres no difference in float I thought

the 8,5 starboard is a different ball game again, this is why I thought the 9,0 was a safe bet but not if 121 of the Naish demo was floaty enough

Zeusman
NSW, 1174 posts
24 Apr 2018 10:00AM
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Foam said..

Zeusman said..
Naish did a limited run of the Hokua GTW shape in an LE construction. They came in 9'6", 9'0" and 8'6". Same dimensions as the GTW line. I had the 9'6" for over a year and loved it. Only sold due to financial issues. Could be something to look into.



Answears below, don't get me wrong, the Naish is stable I am just thinking the boxy rails are a bit of a downfall and may add to the instability I found , but in clean it would be simple enough , one thing I would bitch about with it though is with having to stand far forward of the handle it's two steps back to the tail














This is the board I'm referring to. I had the 9'6" and it weighted 7.5kg. I imagine the 8'6" would be under 7.

sup808
6 posts
24 Apr 2018 9:58AM
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I bought this 2014 model used yesterday that was purchased brand new. The owner rode it twice and realized he was to big for the board and sold it to another big guy. The second owner realized he was to big so it sat in a garage for years. This board has been ridden less than 10 times and is in basically new condition. I'm loving life.
P.s Both the previous owners where long time sup surfers in the 90 kg range



Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 12:37PM
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Awesome, good find yea I'm thinking the 8,5 even though doable at the rated 90kg it would have to be cleaner than clean

Tang
VIC, 578 posts
24 Apr 2018 4:14PM
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I'm 88kg and 6'4", been riding the 2013 8'5 for years at 106L. You'll be fine on it. Put c-drives in it and hang on.

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 3:45PM
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Might give it a miss tang, not enough possatives in the 8,5 as in one will say good the next not so it's one of those boards that can't be chanced on by user reviews especially the few that have commented

benjl
58 posts
24 Apr 2018 4:00PM
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I think for a safer option that's wise- have a read through this review to explain the exact details I mentioned with the 2017 models vs prior years in terms of stability etc.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/2017-Starbord-Pro-85-80-Carbon?page=1

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 4:15PM
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Great stuff, yea confirms the 8,5 just plain hard work unless 85kg or less more like 80 by the sounds
yes I did read as though anyone in the 85 to 90 went to or should of or preferred the 9,0

i dont like domed decks this is why is why I love jp but I was looking to change brand for a different ride
now I'm going to be into a 9,0 starboard pro but I'm very tempted to look at the 8,6 jp surf

as always at 88 to 90 kg boards seem to be far apart I.e 110 litres vs 128 litres not much between in the top to bottom pulled in nose rockets

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 4:27PM
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Don't hear much reviews in jp anymore , my 8,10 @128 litres was magic to surf

im pretty sure there were a few on the 8,6 quite comfortable in all conditions from memory but I chose the 8,10 to be sure

marco gribi
WA, 168 posts
24 Apr 2018 4:44PM
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Hi Foam,

After all the various input I think your on the money looking at the 9'0 Pro, I certainly would not recommend the 2017/18 8'5 Pro for somebody of your weight unless a pretty skilled rider.

Each of the sizes do have subtle variations with rail profile and deck shape, the 9'0 was the first size to go through changes where the rails were thinned out and the deck made flatter. They then introduced the 9'0 XL (139L) that incorporated fatter rails and more volume for heavy riders.

For an intermediate level rider at your weight I think the 9'0 will give you a good amount of stability with performance.

Hope this helps some

Note:
I'm the author of the 8'5 review in the links

Cheers,
Marco

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 5:11PM
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Hi Marco

thanks and great review, yes I agree I am however a advanced sup surfer I always say intermediate this way it allows for the middle man to have a real world view.

as mentioned I was in this same position with mt 2016 jp surf 8,6 vs 8,10 loved the 8,10 was my only board in all conditions and was amazed the crap I surfed in sometimes but that's just leg conditioning eh

yea I can see a 8,5 or 8,6 working well but also a hell of a lot more sitting waiting for waves

I'm very interested to see any view on the jp surf for 88 90 kg I'm guessing as I have said same sinario different brand

so my choice of new board is either the 9,0 x29 starboard vs the jp surf 8,6

But again if it's the same sinario then it's the 9,0

benjl
58 posts
24 Apr 2018 5:54PM
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Another consideration is the sic triton 8'2 at 115l. Shorter, but wider nose and willbe a heap more stable than the 8'5 pro

Foam
616 posts
24 Apr 2018 5:58PM
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Only other stick would be a deep jc pro



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