Air core.. I think it's just another way of saying hollow..

Check out this new Air Core down-wind board from Maui... Beautiful..

DJ

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CMC said...

Do you think they may have been 'inspired' by SIC?

Just googled it, looks like its legit, working with Foote and owned by Jeremy Riggs in the pics.

No.. I don't think so.. Well maybe just a little..

Bill foote has been making great DW boards like this for years but this is the first hollow version.. Jeremy flys on this thing..

It's so very different to what DC is doing isn't it?.. and I don't mean anything by saying that..

DJ

This first mold is 29" wide, which should appeal to a wider market. Jeremy does fly on it, but he flies on everything. His personal board is the same shape, but 24" wide. They will probably do a 27 next.

Mike Owens and Jeremy are partners. Mike has been making aircore boards and oc-1's for years back in North Carolina. He moved his business here last year.

Greenroom said...

What's that thing sticking up at the front of the deck grip?

Breather hole.

Unlike on EPS Boards hollow boards, skis and canoes etc just have a bung with a breather tube.

The new Air Core boards look really nice, I haven't had the chance to try one yet, but I was paddling alongside Mike today (who's working with Jeremy Riggs making these boards) today and the board looked good on the water and appeared to ride the bumps nicely. Mike was on a 29" wide 14ft board (the same as the red one) but they will be making a 27" and possibly a 25" version as well to cater to different levels of paddlers and different weights. Would like to see if I can try one of these before I leave.

When you have 2 good local shapers making boards designed to perform on the same specific run (i.e. Maliko) there will be some similarities, but if you put a Foote Maliko 14 side by side with a Sic f14, they are very different boards, and whilst most of the f14's I've seen look very similar ( as they're almost all from the mould), the Foote boards (not the Air Core) are all hand shaped and vary for each rider. The new Air Core's are different again.
It's like putting a DC12'6 next to the Lahui Kai, very different boards bit both can perform well.

Please can someone say that they are different again and didnt copy each other so that I can explain how that is not what I said and explain it an entirely different way all over again.

Thanks, that would be great.

on cmc's post just above, its fascinating to watch the two boards evolve. both the 'chiefs' train in the whoa sup training club. mick will come out with a board thats been tweaked a little from the model for a team rider. one of dales riders gets a tweaked model two or three weeks later. different boards, but they just seem to get better and faster. now these changes are usually only for the team riders, those tweaks may or may not end up incorporated into the 'model' later.

both dc and lahui kai have so serious talent on their books at the moment.

anyway back to the topic
cheers

CMC said...

laceys lane said...

on cmc's post just above, its fascinating to watch the two boards evolve. both the 'chiefs' train in the whoa sup training club. mick will come out with a board thats been tweaked a little from the model for a team rider. one of dales riders gets a tweaked model two or three weeks later. different boards, but they just seem to get better and faster. now these changes are usually only for the team riders, those tweaks may or may not end up incorporated into the 'model' later.

both dc and lahui kai have so serious talent on their books at the moment.

anyway back to the topic
cheers

Oh my..... Do you think they are inspiring each other?

inspiring each other to be better and faster..

if board a is doing something better then board b, only a fool wouldn't do anything about it. but dc and lahui kai definately go about in different ways, but the aim to match the other or be better is there all right.

it's a win win for both labels, well at the moment anyway

Hey CMC I get where you are coming from, PLEASE don't explain it again

I think if you met the two guys you would understand where I'm coming from, seriously there is no competition between them in the way I perceive the DC /Lahui Kai competition - but that's just a long distance perception.

I think Bill really created first the 12'6 then the 14 versions of his boards as very different beasts to the SIC boards, low rockered true surfing boards. In a funny way if anything the entry rocker of the Bullet boards are closer to what Bill has always done. But I was with Bill recently on Maui and we read something about shaper of the year in a magazine and he got all hot under the collar because Mark Raaphorst hadn't even been considered. Bill's comment was something like Raaphorst is a freakin genius. There really is no petty crap about who worked out what first, just a heap of respect.

Sorry I know I'm reading too much into all this and sure, how can people shaping boards, trying each others boards and doing runs together not be influenced by what the other is doing. Guess the point I'm trying to make is that these two guys really carry very little ego or bravado into the whole process, so refreshingly unusual with shapers who in my experience usually have ego's you couldn't jump over! They both follow their own ideas of what works and what doesn't.

CMC I see where you're coming from, but I think Jonathan had summed up the situation here pretty well. When you talk to Bill, he doesn't want to paddle, just wants to surf and that's what he designs his board (both surf and downwind) for.

Just Wrong said...

laceys lane said...

on cmc's post just above, its fascinating to watch the two boards evolve. both the 'chiefs' train in the whoa sup training club. mick will come out with a board thats been tweaked a little from the model for a team rider. one of dales riders gets a tweaked model two or three weeks later. different boards, but they just seem to get better and faster. now these changes are usually only for the team riders, those tweaks may or may not end up incorporated into the 'model' later.

both dc and lahui kai have so serious talent on their books at the moment.

anyway back to the topic
cheers

Think that Secret Agent fella turns out some pretty damn fast race boards and damn rippable surfing SUPS as well. Thank god he likes to fly under the radar.

i think i saw him disguised as a schoolboy the other day