All of a sudden there are a stack of NEW SUP'ers

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Garethg
Garethg
NSW
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NSW, 406 posts
26 May 2013 6:40pm

Been surfing Collaroy, the "Kick" & Long Reef the last few days, and there were a bunch (like 12-15) guys I haven't seen before who were literally out of control, riding big SUP's and scaring most of the people in the line up.

I know people have to learn somewhere, but a lot of these guys kept paddling to the inside and then getting wiped out by clean up sets. Really scary to watch.

I asked guy if he surfed on a SUP before, and he said, " NO" first time... Not good for the rest of us who try to spread the SUP love...



E T
E T
QLD
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E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
26 May 2013 7:51pm
Unfortunately, as has been mentioned here before, you can't educate everyone. Whilst there are plenty of thoughtful SUPpers and learner SUPers there is always going to be this type of person around.
All you can do is do the right thing yourself and try and spread the word around about being thoughtful .
It has happened before, Longboard resurgence in the 80's and will probably happen again.
I Share your concerns.
ET.
AA
AA
NSW
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AA AA
NSW, 2167 posts
27 May 2013 11:30am
Yeah it is a worry, G. Especially when a lot of SUPs are sold on line with little or no advice given.
It is important to talk to these guys.
They are often totally oblivious to their actions. Often a quiet polite word from another SUP'r opens their eyes to the damage they can cause.

It was a cracking weekend in Sydney, most beaches were firing end to end. Best I have seen my local in a whilst. One SUP out!
surfershaneA
surfershaneA
869 posts
869 posts
27 May 2013 9:40am
Strange, I have been surfing Manly on a shortboard and SUP over the last few days of swell. While this is where you would expect the beginner SUPs to congregate, everyone was under control with most ripping. I had a top little SUP in the southern corner yesterday and even got compliments from short boarders.

Oh, for those still gaining compency, please don't come around when it is out of your league and ruin it for everyone. The small days at Manly are perfect for getting your act togsther.
NNSUP
NNSUP
NSW
1263 posts
NSW, 1263 posts
27 May 2013 6:28pm
Send them North to the other end of the beach. I'm sure the guys up there will certainly educate them in a nice polite manner.
Leroy13
Leroy13
VIC
1174 posts
VIC, 1174 posts
27 May 2013 10:39pm
Garethg said..


Been surfing Collaroy, the "Kick" & Long Reef the last few days, and there were a bunch (like 12-15) guys I haven't seen before who were literally out of control, riding big SUP's and scaring most of the people in the line up.

I know people have to learn somewhere, but a lot of these guys kept paddling to the inside and then getting wiped out by clean up sets. Really scary to watch.

I asked guy if he surfed on a SUP before, and he said, " NO" first time... Not good for the rest of us who try to spread the SUP love...





The one saving grace is that most of them can't get out in anything more than two foot and usually can't catch waves, they are nuisance value. Their main danger is to themselves and anyone paddling out behind them, so don't!!! If you're silly enough to do that then..........? I just feel sorry fo kids that don't know any better. As far as I'm concerned the sooner the kooks hurt themselves the better( tell them there's a really good place called 'Ours' that they should try, with super friendly locals that love it when you drop in!! Maybe we could hire Sunny Garcia to teach them surf ettiquette??? (Only Joking.)
Gosup
Gosup
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
28 May 2013 8:06pm
So... next time you see someone on a long / short board or SUP acting a little out of control and being a liability in general, or maybe they're just running low on respect for others on the break?

If and when you can find an appropriate opportunity, either on water or on shore? Just ask them quietly if they've ever seen the "KOOK or KOOL" article on Seabreeze and leave it at that

Now... if they are half as passionate as you are about your sport, odds are when they get home they may remember that "ODD" little question and start acting a whole lot "KOOLER" next time you see them
Leroy13
Leroy13
VIC
1174 posts
VIC, 1174 posts
28 May 2013 11:16pm
Sorry to anyone that I upset!! I purposely used spots where short boarders are very, very aggressive and the location extremely dangerous. I normally avoid using the word kook because when I'm out the back and fall in for no reason I know that's what I look like! In 4 years of supping I've managed to not hit anyone yet (Touch wood!!!!). It will happen, I'm sure crowds and plain lack of commonsense will ensure that. In 45 years of surfing I have hit heaps of people, some very much on purpose!! I apologise to all of those people.

All suppers need to try and give guys with little or no experience advice. Easier said than done I know. Sunny Garcia went about it the wrong way and that example was mean't to be an ironic suggestion about the way it should'nt be done! You would hope that at some stage common sense will come back into fashion, but as we all know, common sense isn't very common I've been hit by boogie boarders, long boarders, short boarders, body surfers, kids, geriatrics, females and hot show offs, it's sport and it happens. If anybody has a fool proof method except for surfing by yourself at a secluded spot then please pass on the secret. For now I think friendly, enthusiastic communication is the best idea. Again sorry about my previous post on this subject it was a feeble attempt at humour.
E T
E T
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E T E T
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29 May 2013 8:03am
Who are you calling a Geriatric, Leroy?
ET.
Leroy13
Leroy13
VIC
1174 posts
VIC, 1174 posts
29 May 2013 9:40am
E T said..

Who are you calling a Geriatric, Leroy?
ET.


Definitely not you ET , please don't point your finger at me!! You've got to be over 75 ( or feel like it, me!!!)to surf at OG.
colas
colas
5392 posts
5392 posts
30 May 2013 3:31pm
AA said..
It is important to talk to these guys.
They are often totally oblivious to their actions. Often a quiet polite word from another SUP'r opens their eyes to the damage they can cause.


Yup, and I'd say it is important to show them by example.

Recalling my beginner surf years, you could have show me all the "etiquette" and "Kook or Kool" posts (well, leaflets, no internet at the time :-), I would not have understood. I lacked the surfing knowledge to match the words to the actual things that were happening on the water. And also, basically we are just glorified apes (well, more or less glorified depending of the person, I grant you that :-) and our primary way of learning is ...

"monkey see, monkey do"

So I guess taking the time to show them the actual situation "look, follow me, I will get back to the peak making a grand tour to avoid being in the way". "Look at this guy, he is inside, you must not paddle on his wave", ... will work best. But it takes time and patience, it is easier to do with a smiling cutie than an old grumpy, and some apes are really low on the evolution tree :-)

Or, I think promoting a good educational video could be helpful. Anyone knows one?
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