Another SUP Accident at OG Main Beach

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OG SUP
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8 Jan 2010 5:07pm
I am lead to believe the peron lost control and received a concussion and torn hamstring and a trip to Geelong Emergency ward via ambulance.

Hopefullly the person involved will recover quickly and be back to thier family ASAP and luckily no one else was hurt!

If your band new to the sport and cannot control your SUP in the surf Ocean Grove Main Beach is without doubt one of the worst places on the surf coast to learn in summer.

On a lovely day like today the break attracts up to 3 - 5000 people in a very defined area. Believe it or not there are 150 - 300 people out at 6am.

If you do SUP OG we all try to stay to the left of the boat ramp looking out to sea as you will be away from the Go Ride A Wave Surf Schools and The Clubbie Flags and hopefully most of the kids.

Even Better:

If you take your board further down toward Barwon Heads past the Dunes restuarant you can have the whole beach to yourself and similar surfing conditions without the risks.

I guess Torquay Point and Lorne Point would have the same issues maybe worse again.

No one wants to get hurt themselves or worse hurt someone else.

Phill
surf4fun
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8 Jan 2010 2:14pm
Did they give themselves the concussion and torn hammy?

I saw a guy come out of the water this morning at Trigg with a bleeding head which was the result of someone else' short board, but I have a feeling that every SUP incident from now one will be made quite the spectacle.
OG SUP
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8 Jan 2010 5:23pm
In this case, i was told the SUP pulled a rail in 1ft OG powder puffs and it flipped over the top of him hitting him in the head as it went???

The main shop in OG selling Sups is referring all new purchases to the newly formed Surf Sessions Surf and SUP School for lessons.

Matt Lumley "Allrounder on Seabreeze" and 2nd at the Aussie Tittles is the Head SUP instructor so you cant go wrong there IMHO.

At least they are trying to point people in the right direction.

At OG in summer its not just SUPS every craft is dangerous due to numbers. However a 12ft sup side ways can take out a lot of people in one run.

A run away mal can cause just as much damage, but sups are the flavour of the month to give grief.

Phill
surf4fun
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8 Jan 2010 2:41pm
Always picking on the new guy.
PTWoody
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8 Jan 2010 8:26pm
As an absolute noob in the surf re SUPs, I wouldn't dream of surfing Ocean Grove main beach. Too many targets and most of them as clueless as me. OG is strictly a boogie board spot for me. I might try further down the beach towards Barwon Heads as you suggest though. Cheers for that.
Rosscoe
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8 Jan 2010 8:35pm
Hey Phill, how's it going. I suppose, in a way, it was fortunate that the only injury was self inflicted. I agree that SUP's present an easy target if there is a slow news day and one takes out a few "innocent" prone surfers or, worse, swimmers.

Sounds like you guys should travel a bit east over the next few (hectic) weeks at the Grove. Had a wave down the Island this morning with just two of us for the whole time we were out. Not great, but ok 3 foot waves - and (for us mexicans) it's so nice being out in just boardies and rashie.

Once the crowds settle down a bit, I'll have to catch up with you guys and Rich for a few west coast waves.

By the way, I'm loving the paddle Dean made for me.
62mac
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8 Jan 2010 5:53pm
Hi OG, Happy New Year mate.
I hear what your saying,but I wouldn't worry too much.Here on the Goldie is much the same.In Billboards words (not mine ) I am an experienced longboarder( cop that one BB ) and I see this carnage often. I just give the new people the heads up if I see them doing the wrong thing in a nice manner.Most are cool but you do cope some crap from the odd person .
About five years ago my daughter copped a stray old chipped nose in the ear ( a newbie without a leggie ) Noosa and received 8 stitches on the second day of Dec holiday's and NEVER surfed again
Good idea to advise new SUP'ers to lessons,however its not just new standups doing the wrong thing.

mac
OG SUP
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9 Jan 2010 12:34am
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Rosco!

Dean does fine work, the paddle he made for Nesha is pure gold.

Rich and I will take you up on that offer for sure.

Just posted a few pics of the Nesha and Kristi in a shoot out late this afternoon once it slowed down at the Grove.

I think Nesha has Mambo on her mind lol.

Phill

Rosscoe said...

Hey Phill, how's it going. I suppose, in a way, it was fortunate that the only injury was self inflicted. I agree that SUP's present an easy target if there is a slow news day and one takes out a few "innocent" prone surfers or, worse, swimmers.

Sounds like you guys should travel a bit east over the next few (hectic) weeks at the Grove. Had a wave down the Island this morning with just two of us for the whole time we were out. Not great, but ok 3 foot waves - and (for us mexicans) it's so nice being out in just boardies and rashie.

Once the crowds settle down a bit, I'll have to catch up with you guys and Rich for a few west coast waves.

By the way, I'm loving the paddle Dean made for me.


OG SUP
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9 Jan 2010 12:37am
Hey Mac Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Role on Feb I say and Winter for that matter. Big swell no one out but the Crew ah there is a Heaven.

Phill
Gorgo
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9 Jan 2010 8:53am
Getting hit by a SUP is going to hurt no matter how skilled or experienced you are. I have fallen off my Starboard and just brushed against the board on the way down and it hurt.

I heard some noob broke some ribs and punctured a lung down at OG a few months ago from a fairly minor fall.

SUPs have to get lighter. I'm loving my ultra-light SUP shaped by Dean. It can bang against m ein the wildest of wipeouts and I barely feel it.
camo hosk
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9 Jan 2010 10:05am
Hey guys,
great day for a flat water paddle down the Bells area without a prone surfer in sight,

Camo.
Ted the Kiwi
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13 Jan 2010 8:42am
Another accident making the newspaper - this time at the Pass and its not a SUP involved.

A 10-YEAR-old boy came close to death when his skull was shattered by a novice surfer's board at a famous break that is now so crowded it is a "dysfunctional, dangerous zoo".

Seven titanium plates were inserted in to Pascal Dattler's crushed skull after the beginner lost control of a 3m-long malibu board at The Pass at Byron Bay last Friday.


Check out the photo - not pretty

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
DavidJohn
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13 Jan 2010 9:22am
Nasty.. .. Glad it wasn't a novice SUP surfer that did it.. even though it was an accident and these things happen.

DJ
OG SUP
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13 Jan 2010 9:24am
Hey Ted,

How sad is that!

We wish him a super fast recovery, I would be shattered if that happened to one of my kids.

Grading system well who is going to enforce it as every one quite rightly says????

Over the years I have always made my girls wear helmets in the surf and I have been given all sorts of stick for doing it. I now wear one myself at certain breaks, might not be a fashion statement but it is a small insurance policy.

On several occasions the girls have actually been hit both by thier own boards when they were learning and other peoples. The helmet has thank god so far protected their heads and they have come away with bruises else where.

The pressure on water space will only continue to grow.

In Vicco where we live the serious pressure is only on the breaks for a few months then the summer crew disappears and a bit of sanity returns.

I had an interesting conversation at the beach a month ago and it went like this!

" Get the F$#% out of my way" I only get the odd day out of Melbourne and I intend to get as many waves as I can before I go back to the day to day Sh!t!"

I was paddling around in 1 foot OG slop for excercise, it wasnt worth even going out really and with only 15 out and 100s of meters of beach where was the issue? This guy was getting his fix.

Makes me wonder how many others think this way or due to lifestyle are forced into this view. I guess it becomes like a drug we all crave once we are exposed.

Best wishes to the boy and his parents.

Phill



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13 Jan 2010 9:25am
Another sad story!
At least it brings some balance back to the issue onthe back of the SUP accident. At least it takes the spotlight of SUP and on to the real problem - crowd control.

Just lost a mate to a jet ski accident down in the ACT , competent boatie with 20 years experience (on the ski) taken out by a boat in a narrow stretch of water. Why? Overcrowding.
Ted the Kiwi
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13 Jan 2010 9:49am
I have a Gath helmet for Indo trips which is now starting to get more use here in Manly - much needed - and like you say Phil - who cares about the fashion statement. We have just had a bunch of signs errected on the beachfront advising of the dropping in rules. Its sad to say but I do not think they will make much difference. Its got so bad here the last 18 months that I only surf at 5am for a quick 45 to 60 mins or from 8:30am when the work crew leaves and the tourists are yet to rise. Fingers crossed I will be out of this rat race in the next 6 months and be somewhere more pleasent. A shame as we do get some really good waves here - especially when the NE swells arrive.

What annoys me is that surfing (and now SUPping) used to be such pleasureable experiences out in the ocean with your mates and others sharing the stoke. Now its like world war 3 some days. I am really surprised that there are not a lot more accidents caused by the fiberglass weapons. Or maybe they are just not reported? If I am watching from the beach on a busy day I reckon I would see 5 or so near incidents every 20 to 30 minutes sometimes. It really makes the heart jump. I guess the fact that we have not had any decent waves for 6 plus weeks only adds to the problem.

www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/sign-of-the-times-council-drops-in-to-show-who-rules-the-waves-20100112-m4ts.html

surfanimal
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13 Jan 2010 11:18am
I think that's why a lot of us took SUP'n up isn't it.....a chance to get away from the crowds, maybe lose wave quality but enjoy the second or third best bank further up the beach and not have the hassle ?

When I was at The Pass in April last year, it was super corwded - see the photo's earlier in this post. I went down for the late session thinking I get some uncrowded waves at dusk. WRONG. At 8.20pm, sun dropped behind the mountain 20 minutes earlier and it was pretty much pitch black bar the orange glow low on the horizon, still at least 40 in the water......it is a zoo. Great to surf it but even better knowing you're going home soon !

I wear a fluro pink Gath every 'surf zone' session now. First to keep my head from burning, second to protect my head if I fall and hit my SUP which is always possible as I'm new to it and thirdly to be seen easily and be protected from others and their boards. To much at risk to get a head injury !

It might look dicky and I cop plenty but I just don't give a s**t to be honest.
Revvin
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13 Jan 2010 11:21am
Its ironic that this topic was at the top this morning. When I drove past OG main this morning on the way to work there was a guy struggling to paddle out on his knees straight through the frothing summer onshore dribbling pack.
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13 Jan 2010 11:33am
surfanimals said...

I think that's why a lot of us took SUP'n up isn't it.....a chance to get away from the crowds, maybe lose wave quality but enjoy the second or third best bank further up the beach and not have the hassle ?



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Green Tea
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13 Jan 2010 1:38pm
The beauty of this sport is that you can paddle off into the never never and escape crowds. I live in OGrove, 90% of my paddling is with one or two other people. Search.

Div
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13 Jan 2010 6:22pm
Couldnt agree more Div
First surf since Christmas on monday due to a hammy tear. Walked over to the back beach and was gobsmacked by the crowd. Hadnt bothered looking at the surf for so long it came as a bit of a shock. Heads on em like flys on crap! What passes as a bank at the moment was inundated with about 50 punters and 1 stand up. The guy on the stand up was on high rotation and was catching way more than he was due. Nasty vibe all round in the water. Paddled out past the pack and copped stink eye all round. Funny thing was I couldnt recognise a single face and I've been here 35 years. Turned right at the peak, paddled for a couple of hundred metres west and in full view of the slavering mob proceeded to surf a comparable peak all on my lonesome. Speechless!
For what its worth I reckon accidents and bad press are predominantly the result off two classes of stand up. First, the clueless newbie. As we all came from this pool at some stage we need to cut these crew a little slack and run with the educate as opposed to regulate program. Second is the guy who has decided that stand up is a way of short circuiting the pecking order. Rather than use the vehicle to find uncrowded waves they use it as a means to dominate already crowded line ups. In short they catch more waves than their skill level warrants. Like the guy out at the back beach on monday, these are tough nuts to crack. They are generally super thick skinned and they dont give a rats arse!
CHEERS
Sparx
Gorgo
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15 Jan 2010 8:57am
OG SUP said...
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If you take your board further down toward Barwon Heads past the Dunes restuarant you can have the whole beach to yourself and similar surfing conditions without the risks.

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That's the thing I can't understand about the stories of OG carnage. That beach is kilometres long. Surely people can just paddle a few hundred metres further along and find their own private piece of heaven. That's what SUPs are for.

PS Yesterday in crowded crappy surf we managed to find our own little break and I got one of the best SUP waves I ever had. Even when sharing the main break I got a few hoots and some gorgeous young ladies were applauding my meager skills. Pity they were young enough to be my grand daughters. Most people are impressed that a SUPer can just stand up and paddle on the board let alone do any cool moves on a wave.
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15 Jan 2010 10:41am
Well Gorgo,

We call it the pied piper syndrome!

When someone sees people catching a wave down the beach it must be better down that way, so they paddle to that point.

Then the sheep mentality kicks in and slowly the mob follows.

On hot day at Main Beach there will be 1000's of people around the boat ramp and the Surf Club, those points are like Touro magnets. Others move 2kms up the beach and share the peace and quiet with maybe 30 - 50 other people.

The best example of find a lesser break and have fun was last week when it was a very small swell and Rich, Kristi and I went looking for a wave.

As we drove along 13th we spotted a small peaking wave at Beacon. We normally avoid Beacon like the plague as it is a designated Short Board break and rightly so IMHO. On that day even Kelly Slater would have left his board in the car but it was SUP heaven.

We paddled out and had the location totally to ourselves for almost 2hrs and then a friendly Mal rider saw what was going on and paddled over to join us.

On several occasions we looked down the beach to Sign Posts approx 1km away which must have had 100+ people out falling all over each other it was a total zoo.

But the wave at Signies had to be better right!

Go figure???

Phill




Gorgo
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15 Jan 2010 3:18pm
OG SUP said...
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But the wave at Signies had to be better right!
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That is highly illogical.


Being on the best wave with 50-100 people means you get no waves unless you are the best surfer and extremely lucky or aggressive. Hence you are not surfing. You are sitting in the water. (Good practice for the old peoples home.)

THEBIRD
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16 Jan 2010 5:10pm
surfanimals said...

I think that's why a lot of us took SUP'n up isn't it.....a chance to get away from the crowds, maybe lose wave quality but enjoy the second or third best bank further up the beach and not have the hassle ?


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