I have mentioned to few surfers (sb) over the past month or so that I have taken up surfing on a Sup and have gotten a few strange looks and 1 comment of "why would you do that ?". I recall when I was younger and surfing everyday that the knee boards and goat boats were not in the mix. Surely we're not looked at the same - are we ?
Not that I give a sh1t what they think - just curious.
Also got a few looks from locals up the coast when I was paddling out. You know that look when they eyeball ya then they tilt the head back like a TC.

Fire away doggie

E T said...

I have been an observer of these Forums for some time and have only recently started to contribute. One thing that sticks out to me is the never ending negative attitude of some surfers to other surfers who ride a different craft to them. Shortboarders don't like longboarderss, old mal riders don't like progressive longboarders, everyone "hates" ski paddlers. Now it comes down to SUP riders being the "new goat boats". This is all ridiculous.
Over the years (I am 57) I have ridden single fins, twin fins, knee boards at Cronulla Point (brave hey), Longboards since 1980, and now SUP. These are all surf craft and have their place in the line up.
What doesn't have a place is the bad attitude that people exhibit.
In this ever increasing battle for waves the "real" surfers are moving away from crowded spots like Snapper and Noosa and settling for less crowded and sometimes less quality waves. It is about surfing not being top dog.
One big advantage of a SUP is the ability to quickly and easily change from one break to another. Why not leave the aggression and attitudes behind and paddle away and enjoy yourself. After all that is what it is about in my opinion.

Nice post ET totally agree

E T said...

I have been an observer of these Forums for some time and have only recently started to contribute. One thing that sticks out to me is the never ending negative attitude of some surfers to other surfers who ride a different craft to them. Shortboarders don't like longboarderss, old mal riders don't like progressive longboarders, everyone "hates" ski paddlers. Now it comes down to SUP riders being the "new goat boats". This is all ridiculous.
Over the years (I am 57) I have ridden single fins, twin fins, knee boards at Cronulla Point (brave hey), Longboards since 1980, and now SUP. These are all surf craft and have their place in the line up.
What doesn't have a place is the bad attitude that people exhibit.
In this ever increasing battle for waves the "real" surfers are moving away from crowded spots like Snapper and Noosa and settling for less crowded and sometimes less quality waves. It is about surfing not being top dog.
One big advantage of a SUP is the ability to quickly and easily change from one break to another. Why not leave the aggression and attitudes behind and paddle away and enjoy yourself. After all that is what it is about in my opinion.

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As a relic from the soul surfing days of the mid '60's and early '70's around Bells Torquay etc, I'm always saddened to read about the general attitudes of most surfers from the '90's on. We used to be stoked watching a mate or fellow surfer enjoying his wave not compete with him. It was all about the Journey, the Combie ride to the coast, the Pub Fri and Sat nite, sharing stories around a camp fire of rides and places travelled. Sure there were the "hodad's from Ballarat with their secondhand boards bolted permanently to the 45 degree angle roof racks, but they were harmless, most never even entered the water, they were for toobs and tabs, but just didn't understand or have a love of the ocean. They were still part of the community, some eventually "got it" and became surfers and good mates.

Maybe the modern day surfer just needs to get back to basics, I have no issues with any ocean user, be that wind surfer, ski paddler, SuP, boogie or body surfer, along as he respects the oean and the other people that enjoy it. In all my years hanging around Torquay Pub and the Bells area I never witnessed one fight be that Pub or on water, most people were pretty cool back then, I guess a product of the hippy sixties. I noticed an attitude change around the time short boards became popular, we were still riding 7ft 6" Bells guns, ( Morgans, Pykes etc, ) these short boards eventually attracted a whole new crowd and things kind of went rotten from about the Eighties on. if you wanna reconnect, I highly recommend watching Morning of the Earth or George Greenoughs " Crystal Voyager" , the first one will reconnect you to people, the second one will reconnect you with the ocean.

Cheers Rambo

rambooc1 said...

As a relic from the soul surfing days of the mid '60's and early '70's around Bells Torquay etc, I'm always saddened to read about the general attitudes of most surfers from the '90's on. We used to be stoked watching a mate or fellow surfer enjoying his wave not compete with him. It was all about the Journey, the Combie ride to the coast, the Pub Fri and Sat nite, sharing stories around a camp fire of rides and places travelled. Sure there were the "hodad's from Ballarat with their secondhand boards bolted permanently to the 45 degree angle roof racks, but they were harmless, most never even entered the water, they were for toobs and tabs, but just didn't understand or have a love of the ocean. They were still part of the community, some eventually "got it" and became surfers and good mates.

Maybe the modern day surfer just needs to get back to basics, I have no issues with any ocean user, be that wind surfer, ski paddler, SuP, boogie or body surfer, along as he respects the oean and the other people that enjoy it. In all my years hanging around Torquay Pub and the Bells area I never witnessed one fight be that Pub or on water, most people were pretty cool back then, I guess a product of the hippy sixties. I noticed an attitude change around the time short boards became popular, we were still riding 7ft 6" Bells guns, ( Morgans, Pykes etc, ) these short boards eventually attracted a whole new crowd and things kind of went rotten from about the Eighties on. if you wanna reconnect, I highly recommend watching Morning of the Earth or George Greenoughs " Crystal Voyager" , the first one will reconnect you to people, the second one will reconnect you with the ocean.

Cheers Rambo

Rambo, in the late 90's I lived in North Cornwall, England for a couple of years. Growing up on the Goldy I watched Morning of the Earth and the classics. When I went to Cornwall there were still people growing cabbage, driving combi's, playing guitar around camp fires, smoking joints and sharing them before surfs on the beach etc etc. Even regular nights at the town hall watching reel to reel old surf vids with Hawaiian shirts, fancy dress parties etc etc. So much fun!

Surfing was still about being 'fun' and being part of it. I loved it, it didnt matter if you ripped, a kook, rode a body board or kept a towel warm on the beach. It was just about being at the beach, enjoying the beauty of being free and getting over last nights hangover. The Cornish like to sing, and nothing gets you in the mood to drink more than a huge sing a long with your mates and the rest of the pub. A bit like Ireland I guess. Sounds goofy here, you'd never see it.

I miss that place sometimes.....

I think that due to forces beyond our control, people are being pushed into situations they wouldnt choose which leads to tention:

wave quality has dropped due to weather and physical changes
Alot more people in the surf at any given time
Less time to surf due to more hectic lifestyles and responsabilties

Doggie, you have a very cute face in your new picture. At first I thought you were serious about your bla blaing, then I looked at your little winking face and thought this guy (I assume you are a guy) is having a go.

A frown is a smile upside down.

I count five paragraphs.

doggie said...

E T said...

Doggie, you have a very cute face in your new picture. At first I thought you were serious about your bla blaing, then I looked at your little winking face and thought this guy (I assume you are a guy) is having a go.

Well I half was. Its all Scottys fault anyway, we dont frown upon you. That makes your face go all wrinkly, yuk!

Its more of the massive post with one massive paragraph going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...........................................

Faaaark just get over it.......

Has doggie turned into a badger? Looks much more like a mushed out badger than a doggie to me

doggie said...

E T said...

I count five paragraphs.

Ok, funny that you counted them

i recall my 5th grade english teacher saying you must leave a space between paragraphs
this is one paragraph which is the real issue.

Here.



(new paragraph)

doggie is that your real dog?

jasdeking said...

doggie said...

E T said...

I count five paragraphs.

Ok, funny that you counted them

i recall my 5th grade english teacher saying you must leave a space between paragraphs
this is one paragraph which is the real issue.

Here.



(new paragraph)

doggie is that your real dog?

I wish I had a cool dog like that, cant keep one where I live.

Allright I see the humour. Sorry Doggie I will make sure that in future I leave spaces between paragraphs and that I don't rattle on for too long. I don't wish to upset anybody by being serious about something. Please forgive me.

E T said...

I have been an observer of these Forums for some time and have only recently started to contribute. One thing that sticks out to me is the never ending negative attitude of some surfers to other surfers who ride a different craft to them. Shortboarders don't like longboarderss, old mal riders don't like progressive longboarders, everyone "hates" ski paddlers. Now it comes down to SUP riders being the "new goat boats". This is all ridiculous.
Over the years (I am 57) I have ridden single fins, twin fins, knee boards at Cronulla Point (brave hey), Longboards since 1980, and now SUP. These are all surf craft and have their place in the line up.
What doesn't have a place is the bad attitude that people exhibit.
In this ever increasing battle for waves the "real" surfers are moving away from crowded spots like Snapper and Noosa and settling for less crowded and sometimes less quality waves. It is about surfing not being top dog.
One big advantage of a SUP is the ability to quickly and easily change from one break to another. Why not leave the aggression and attitudes behind and paddle away and enjoy yourself. After all that is what it is about in my opinion.

Well said ET. Yes, a big avantage in Sup is the luxury of paddling to a new break in a couple of minutes if too crowded or just feel like a paddle during the lul. Love it. At 57 you must have been about 42 when you retired - good combo you and Sparkles in the centres.

Scotty88 said...

TheGoodDr said...

rambooc1 said...

As a relic from the soul surfing days of the mid '60's and early '70's around Bells Torquay etc, I'm always saddened to read about the general attitudes of most surfers from the '90's on. We used to be stoked watching a mate or fellow surfer enjoying his wave not compete with him. It was all about the Journey, the Combie ride to the coast, the Pub Fri and Sat nite, sharing stories around a camp fire of rides and places travelled. Sure there were the "hodad's from Ballarat with their secondhand boards bolted permanently to the 45 degree angle roof racks, but they were harmless, most never even entered the water, they were for toobs and tabs, but just didn't understand or have a love of the ocean. They were still part of the community, some eventually "got it" and became surfers and good mates.

Maybe the modern day surfer just needs to get back to basics, I have no issues with any ocean user, be that wind surfer, ski paddler, SuP, boogie or body surfer, along as he respects the oean and the other people that enjoy it. In all my years hanging around Torquay Pub and the Bells area I never witnessed one fight be that Pub or on water, most people were pretty cool back then, I guess a product of the hippy sixties. I noticed an attitude change around the time short boards became popular, we were still riding 7ft 6" Bells guns, ( Morgans, Pykes etc, ) these short boards eventually attracted a whole new crowd and things kind of went rotten from about the Eighties on. if you wanna reconnect, I highly recommend watching Morning of the Earth or George Greenoughs " Crystal Voyager" , the first one will reconnect you to people, the second one will reconnect you with the ocean.

Cheers Rambo

I blame the 'surf nazi' era, fuelled by various mags.

Hustler ?

Good articles

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