Bung plugs???

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The5MetreKid
The5MetreKid
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23 Sep 2012 6:47pm
Hey guys,
Im abit of a newbie super, ordered a 8'0 X 28" Starboard pro and picked it up on friday, have been out on it everyday ive had it and am very stocked with the board! Just wondering if its really that important to take the bung plug out when ever your not using your board? What do you do? and have you had any disasters as a result of leaving your bung plug in? I know that surf life saving paddle boards dont have them and most of them are a fair bit bigger than my board...
Thanks, Tristan
DavidJohn
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23 Sep 2012 7:04pm
You can leave your butt plug in.. I mean bung plug..

I don't even know what a butt plug is.. .. btw I call my bung plug a vent screw..

Congrats on the new 8.0.

DJ
HumanCartoon
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23 Sep 2012 8:01pm
DavidJohn said...
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I don't even know what a butt plug is.. ..


...yet you work in a hospital?
DavidJohn
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23 Sep 2012 8:22pm
HumanCartoon said...

DavidJohn said...
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I don't even know what a butt plug is.. ..


...yet you work in a hospital?


Ha.. We have so many Code Brown's in ICU that I often wish there was such a thing that we use on our patients..

DJ
Squid Lips
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23 Sep 2012 6:48pm
It's a really good idea to get use to taking it out and putting it in as part of your process of setting up and packing up. Continual expansion and contraction with temperature changes will eventually cause delamination, even more so after the board gets a ding and has a little moisture inside. The clubbie boards probably use different construction that doesn't require a vent. Just about every production windsurfer for the last 15 years has a vent screw. It's there for a reason.
DavidJohn
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23 Sep 2012 8:59pm
Just saying..

It's interesting the new JP boards do not even have a vent screw..

Also the new Fanatic boards don't have them..

Are they using a different foam in the core.. or have they decided that they are not needed?

DJ
latman
latman
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23 Sep 2012 9:09pm
The most popular brand of clubbie board (Kracka) have "vents" in them , but lots of other brands boards can "blow" up if they are dark colours (like clear carbon) even before a delam issue can appear the 70 something softening temp of EPS foam will be exceeded but the suns heat on some colours

(PS a clubbie board is 10'6" long and weighs a mandated minimum of 7.6 kg)
Squid Lips
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23 Sep 2012 7:10pm
Probably different. My girlfriend's older 'candy' Starboard Drive doesn't have one but my new carbon one does
geared4knots
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23 Sep 2012 10:37pm
Here is a little read/website on water in boards/bungs,vents and leaving them in the sun. good for repairs too!

boardlady.com/
cel23
cel23
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24 Sep 2012 7:57am
No, you wont need to take it out, unless you are leaving it in the direct sun light on a hot day for a period of time, which im sure you would try and avoid doing!
As DJ said a lot of brands dont ever have them as they are so well built that there isn't a need.

If you have a really low density EPS core there are lots of air gaps in the foam which then expand in the sun resulting in a delaminated,cracked or a bubbled board, better built board use a higher grade of foam meaning it is much higher density and therefore less air gaps and in some cases none! meaning the board doesn't expand and contract. hence why surf-tech say that you can get a crack in one of their board and keep surfing without letting water in.

Marcel
Ian Grose
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24 Sep 2012 8:46am
Tristan,

Screw it when you first unpack it and you should never need to unscrew it.

We have a heap of Starboard demo boards and never unscrew them whatever conditions we use them in.

Just keep in mind a board should never be left in extreme heat, if a board is left in a car with its nose up on the dashboard in direct sun on a hot day there is potential to do damage to any board with or without a vent plug. The direct sun through a windscreen is enough to damage any board on a hot day, through the windscreen is worse due to the angle of the screen, side windows are not as much of an issue.

Starboard will in the future phase out air vent screws. Most of us do not loosen them and never have issues.

I can only comment on Starboard and all boards are constructed differently, i would definately take advise from the manufacturer / distributor / retailer about which ever brand you have.

My 2c worth.

Cheers,

Ian
Sailhack
Sailhack
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24 Sep 2012 10:20am
No to disagree Ian, but just to clarify a couple of points from your comment.

Ian Grose said...

Tristan,

Screw it when you first unpack it and you should never need to unscrew it.



Just keep in mind a board should never be left in extreme heat, if a board is left in a car with its nose up on the dashboard in direct sun on a hot day there is potential to do damage to any board with or without a vent plug.


So in other words - Try not to, but if you're going to have to leave your board in the sun or a car, loosen it.

Also, if you're flying with it - definitely loosen it. I've heard of a few w/surfers delaminating during flights.

Most of us do not loosen them and never have issues.


True, but the screw has a rubber washer (o-ring) that is continually under compression & can perish over time. It doesn't hurt to unscrew it & replace the washer every 12 months or so - just my 2 cents.
johnwest
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24 Sep 2012 4:03pm
I noticed with Firewire surfboards, they all ahd bungs then they stopped putting them in with a little sticker in the boards saying testing had found the bungs unneccasary.
Also I must admit to travelling by commercial airlines with my Carbon Starboard and always forgetting to loosen bung with no adverse effects. I think this is due to the fact that pretty well all luggage compartments of airlines are now pressurized.
But when i remember I loosen them.

Nick
rahams
rahams
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24 Sep 2012 4:33pm
does anyone know if the 10' fanatic has a vent screw or is it a mastbase thingy?
E T
E T
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24 Sep 2012 5:07pm
Rahams, the Fanatics don't have vent screws. If you are looking at the threaded inset in front of the carry handle, it is a mast fixing point.
ET,
rahams
rahams
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24 Sep 2012 5:16pm
E T said...

Rahams, the Fanatics don't have vent screws. If you are looking at the threaded inset in front of the carry handle, it is a mast fixing point.
ET,


thanks!!!
FlyingKiwi
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24 Sep 2012 7:50pm
DavidJohn said...

HumanCartoon said...

DavidJohn said...
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I don't even know what a butt plug is.. ..


...yet you work in a hospital?


Ha.. We have so many Code Brown's in ICU that I often wish there was such a thing that we use on our patients..



DJ



Nurse/reg/consultant DJ?
DavidJohn
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24 Sep 2012 8:21pm
FlyingKiwi said...


Nurse/reg/consultant DJ?



The consultants ask me what I think about out patents.. .. just before I drive our $60,000 motorized beds to the hospital ER, Theater, Cath lab, CT or MRI after I've set up all the equipment that's needed for the patient.. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it..

DJ

FlyingKiwi
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24 Sep 2012 8:33pm
DavidJohn said...

FlyingKiwi said...


Nurse/reg/consultant DJ?



The consultants ask me what I think about out patents.. .. just before I drive our $60,000 motorized beds to the hospital ER, Theater, Cath lab, CT or MRI after I've set up all the equipment that's needed for the patient.. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it..

DJ



True, worked aeromedical in NZ, bed to bed service, as you can appreciate with a full ventilated patient with art lines and many infusions running, great job..... Have the 'simple life' now working on a rescue helicoper
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