Buying a board in Hawaii

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oliver
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30 Sep 2010 9:32pm
I'm heading there soon for a holiday. With the Aussie dollar so high, is there a significant cost benefit in doing so? I'm flying air Hawaii and I understand they allow stacks of luggage.
SandS
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30 Sep 2010 11:52pm
oliver said...

I'm heading there soon for a holiday. With the Aussie dollar so high, is there a significant cost benefit in doing so? I'm flying air Hawaii and I understand they allow stacks of luggage.


No brainer , take two or three slabs of beer from home with a few kilos of your fav nibbles, in luggage . and bring home your fav pad stick from Hawaii.
boylos
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1 Oct 2010 7:06am
oliver said...

I'm heading there soon for a holiday. With the Aussie dollar so high, is there a significant cost benefit in doing so? I'm flying air Hawaii and I understand they allow stacks of luggage.


Go for it ..... as long as it's 12,6 under .... 14ft and above your have to freight.

What board are you getting ?

Also beaware on how your going to get it to the airport if it's a 12ft 6 ,I was fine with my 9ft 6 longboard the airport shuttle van had straps to put it on the roof.

Boylos
Piros
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1 Oct 2010 9:18am
Just got back a couple of months ago (Oahu) , best range of boards I saw was in Haleiwa but really the costs saving weren’t great , plus the range is mainly bigger boards probably because in 2 weeks I only saw 2 people on sub 10 Sup's boards so nothing caught my eye.

We seem to be on a pretty good wicket price wise for our imports plus we get a more diverse range. They do carry really nice race boards that we don't get here.. Bark's ect.

Rob
DavidJohn
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1 Oct 2010 9:47am
You lucky bugga Oliver.. Just watch out for the locals there..

DJ

AA
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1 Oct 2010 10:15am
Piros said...

Just got back a couple of months ago (Oahu) , best range of boards I saw was in Haleiwa but really the costs saving weren�t great , plus the range is mainly bigger boards probably because in 2 weeks I only saw 2 people on sub 10 Sup's boards so nothing caught my eye.

We seem to be on a pretty good wicket price wise for our imports plus we get a more diverse range. They do carry really nice race boards that we don't get here.. Bark's ect.

Rob



Here is a plug for supporting the emerging Australian SUP industry!

There are always savings to be had OS, but when you factor in the costs of taxes and getting the boards back, there savings are often minimal.

If you want Aussie retailers to grow and carry extensive ranges and offer good advice, think twice before spending your hard earned dollars in another country.

Wether custom or production, when you buy a board here the bulk of your $'s stay here and help to grow a healthy industry that can support events like the Mambo, the Roar, sponsor up-and-coming riders and sponsor sites like this.

Spend it here, keep it healthy!

Andrew.A




cranky
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1 Oct 2010 8:44am
Piros said...


plus the range is mainly bigger boards probably because in 2 weeks I only saw 2 people on sub 10 Sup's boards so nothing caught my eye.




By contrast I was there for 3 weeks in April north and south shore stays and saw predominantly sub 10' boards. Generally the only big boards were the hire boards. Only saw one Naish and 1 Starboard the whole time. Still kicking myself for not bringing back a Jay Richardson board
loco4olas
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1 Oct 2010 11:27am
AA said...

Piros said...

Just got back a couple of months ago (Oahu) , best range of boards I saw was in Haleiwa but really the costs saving weren�t great , plus the range is mainly bigger boards probably because in 2 weeks I only saw 2 people on sub 10 Sup's boards so nothing caught my eye.

We seem to be on a pretty good wicket price wise for our imports plus we get a more diverse range. They do carry really nice race boards that we don't get here.. Bark's ect.

Rob



Here is a plug for supporting the emerging Australian SUP industry!

There are always savings to be had OS, but when you factor in the costs of taxes and getting the boards back, there savings are often minimal.

If you want Aussie retailers to grow and carry extensive ranges and offer good advice, think twice before spending your hard earned dollars in another country.

Wether custom or production, when you buy a board here the bulk of your $'s stay here and help to grow a healthy industry that can support events like the Mambo, the Roar, sponsor up-and-coming riders and sponsor sites like this.

Spend it here, keep it healthy!

Andrew.A







Agree with AA-however, the savings can be significant-it's pretty bloody hard to justify spending 40-60% more here for the same board in the USA. And free or minimal charges in getting it home.

I always buy my snowboard gear in the USA-save 50% on the price there compared to here for the exact same gear (when the dollar is high as it is now)-their market size just makes for significantly lower prices.
Ted the Kiwi
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1 Oct 2010 1:10pm
ummm interesting discussion point this one. I would get one Oliver if I had the chance - I was over in the States a few months back and could not believe some of the prices. Sadly was not able to bring one back.

I also see that there is another large SUP shop opening this weekend on the edge of the northern beaches. 2 in 2 weeks. Maybe some competition and a high currency will bring things back into line a little!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha

Piros
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1 Oct 2010 1:21pm
Ted the Kiwi said...

ummm interesting discussion point this one. I would get one Oliver if I had the chance - I was over in the States a few months back and could not believe some of the prices. Sadly was not able to bring one back.

I also see that there is another large SUP shop opening this weekend on the edge of the northern beaches. 2 in 2 weeks. Maybe some competition and a high currency will bring things back into line a little!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha




I'll think you'll find boards are cheaper on the mainland than in Hawaii.
oliver
oliver
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1 Oct 2010 11:25am
So what sort of saving are we looking at?

less than 10%
20 - 30%
30 - 50%

and are there any problems freighting the board between islands?
DILLIGAF2
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1 Oct 2010 11:26am
As I live in the arse end of nowhere lil ol NZ, board prices and availability are crap so was planning to do exactly this next year.

What do you reckon the chances are of getting a custom done while on a ten day hol? Pipe-dream or possible? Obviously I would start discussions with the shaper before I landed in Hawaii
boxman
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1 Oct 2010 5:15pm
Supporting local suppliers is the way to go for all the reasons AA menisions and more.
but with the dollar so strong, the local suppliers should be able to pass on some savings with the dollars strength.
aus301
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1 Oct 2010 8:34pm
boxman said...

but with the dollar so strong, the local suppliers should be able to pass on some savings with the dollars strength.


Nice in theory but doesn't work in practice. Much of the gear sitting in the shops today and in importers warehouses was most likely paid for many months ago when the dollar wasn't in the position it is today, and with Starboard and possibly Naish in euro not US dollars.

Depending on the ordering and payment cycle we may not see the benefit of todays rates for some time if at all.

BTW, I am not part of any import or retail business, just an average punter like the rest.
boxman
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1 Oct 2010 7:13pm
the US econ. isn't getting better any time soon, so fare call on current stock but time regarding the strength of the AUS dollar is on our side even with long periods between orders regardless of it being US dollar or Euro.

also i am of the opinion that up to 80% of euro trade contracts are still done in US dollars, witch is also a minor factor as to why the greenback is still a strong currency.

both euro and US need to stop browwing off China to buy products from china and start investing in production in there own countrys and Australia needs to open there eyes to this downward spiral of mass dept.

so to move back towards SUP's if local shops dont play ball in the near future with the mass production OS board company's, do the most moral thing and buy direct from our own local shapers, who many are proving have the goods over mass production, just not mass marketing.
theDoctor
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1 Oct 2010 10:43pm

unless you buy a local australian made custom, i reckon go for it.

shops here sell stuff made in china and thailand

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out

to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

if they want to keep it here and keep it healthy why don't they sell and promote local board builders...?

ultimately, its about the money for them, its about the money for you....

but buy australian custom
oliver
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1 Oct 2010 9:21pm
I've already got two Australian custom boards, and I'm thinking of selling them at a fraction of what I paid for them. Custom is great, except when it comes to resale.

I'll want a board to use while I'm over there, so it probably makes sense to buy one there, even if the cost is roughly the same, and then bring it back home.

Besides, Australia's economy is doing just fine. Think of it as not taking a sale away from us, but rather as giving our struggling brothers in the US a bit of a hand.
SammyJ
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1 Oct 2010 11:39pm
theDoctor said...


unless you buy a local australian made custom, i reckon go for it.

shops here sell stuff made in china and thailand

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out

to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

if they want to keep it here and keep it healthy why don't they sell and promote local board builders...?

ultimately, its about the money for them, its about the money for you....

but buy australian custom


Here, here well said
towball
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2 Oct 2010 7:19am
oliver said...

I've already got two Australian custom boards, and I'm thinking of selling them at a fraction of what I paid for them. Custom is great, except when it comes to resale.

I'll want a board to use while I'm over there, so it probably makes sense to buy one there, even if the cost is roughly the same, and then bring it back home.

Besides, Australia's economy is doing just fine. Think of it as not taking a sale away from us, but rather as giving our struggling brothers in the US a bit of a hand.


You go for it Oliver Local board factory here just gone into recevership so things not that good here . I hate to think what a custom SUP would be worth here, if it makes the knockers any feel better I buy boards in AUS and bring them back . Go for it .
Casso
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2 Oct 2010 10:24am
theDoctor said...

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

I do organise these events and can tell you that the Sydney Paddle Surfing Club (for one) would never have got up and running if it weren't for retailers like WindSurfnSnow, Balmoral Boards, Suplove, Walk on Water and East Coast SUP. These guys put up some solid cash to fund the club.
Wodenau
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2 Oct 2010 1:01pm

I do organise these events and can tell you that the Sydney Paddle Surfing Club (for one) would never have got up and running if it weren't for retailers like WindSurfnSnow, Balmoral Boards, Suplove, Walk on Water and East Coast SUP. These guys put up some solid cash to fund the club.



..and as a committee member for the newly formed SUP Central (Central Coast Paddleboarding Club) we are in the process of setting up and looking for sponsors to help out. I say, "Support the sponsors who support you". I don't have a problem buying gear from the people who show up to support our club and its activities.

At our recent weekend away to kick things off we had reps from two local SUP retailers (ESS Boardstore at Erina and The Paddle Shack at Davistown) bring gear along to try out, Aidan from Naish brought up a whole van load of boards and paddles to borrow (I ended up buying the new Naish kevlar paddle after trying one out) and we had a couple of our local retailers donate prizes for our unofficial comp.

Without these individuals, companies and retailers getting behind us the weekend would not have been as successful.
daletor
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2 Oct 2010 4:42pm
Oliver you would be letting DJ down if you didn't buy a Naish.....ohhhhh....but are they made in Hawaii????????
daletor
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3 Oct 2010 3:53pm
Naish should be cheaper in Australia because we are nearer to where they are manufactured.
OG SUP
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3 Oct 2010 9:40pm
Casso said...

theDoctor said...

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

I do organise these events and can tell you that the Sydney Paddle Surfing Club (for one) would never have got up and running if it weren't for retailers like WindSurfnSnow, Balmoral Boards, Suplove, Walk on Water and East Coast SUP. These guys put up some solid cash to fund the club.



I agree with Casso,

Without the support of Strapper, Kialoa, SHQ, Sup Bus, RPS, Balmoral Boards, Windgenuity etc we simply wouldnt have any surf or racing events in Vicco. They throw serious time, manpower and cash at events.

Phill





cranky
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4 Oct 2010 11:35am
OG SUP said...

Casso said...

theDoctor said...

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

I do organise these events and can tell you that the Sydney Paddle Surfing Club (for one) would never have got up and running if it weren't for retailers like WindSurfnSnow, Balmoral Boards, Suplove, Walk on Water and East Coast SUP. These guys put up some solid cash to fund the club.



I agree with Casso,

Without the support of Strapper, Kialoa, SHQ, Sup Bus, RPS, Balmoral Boards, Windgenuity etc we simply wouldnt have any surf or racing events in Vicco. They throw serious time, manpower and cash at events.

Phill




Clearly those benefiting from local industry support should show conviction and buy local.

ChrisMcC
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4 Oct 2010 3:29pm
theDoctor said...


unless you buy a local australian made custom, i reckon go for it.

shops here sell stuff made in china and thailand

the chirp of 'support the local industry' is a bit of a cop out

to try and guilt you into believing events like mambo or local boardriders wouldn't happen if not for sup retailers is an insult to those who organise and participate in the events...

if they want to keep it here and keep it healthy why don't they sell and promote local board builders...?

ultimately, its about the money for them, its about the money for you....

but buy australian custom


Geez Doc, big call there.
No, the events would simply not happen without the sponsors getting behind them. From a SUP Club through to a major event. they all need help from sponsors and that support is received ever so graciously.
towball
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4 Oct 2010 12:54pm
One person buying a board in Hawaii isn't going to make a lot of differance to local industry ,if anything the US Economy could do with all the help it can get . The value of the Aus dollaris @ record high . All the who ha about sponsership your just supporting Thailand.
Buy two Oliver
oliver
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4 Oct 2010 4:04pm
Yeah, agree towball.

The advice from retailers is "do what I say not as I do"

The sup retailers that I visit all buy their boards from overseas. Don't see local customs in the shops that I've been to.

I buy local that's why I've got two customs and I'm going to get myself a custom Hawaiian board.

Been eyeing off those PSH bamboo numbers - they look sweet. Not sure if they are even available here. Are they?

www.paddlesurfhawaii.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
hilly
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4 Oct 2010 4:30pm
oliver said...



Been eyeing off those PSH bamboo numbers - they look sweet. Not sure if they are even available here. Are they?



Been out since July got the 10 6 gun. Very nice boards

reckon that photo on the site is a bit misleading as they have painted rails the photo is of the custom wood veneers which I got over there they are rare as hens teeth.
aus301
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4 Oct 2010 7:15pm
oliver said...

Yeah, agree towball.

The advice from retailers is "do what I say not as I do"

The sup retailers that I visit all buy their boards from overseas. Don't see local customs in the shops that I've been to.



Do what you want, but that comment is a stretch. The retailers I visit buy boards made overseas, but they buy them in Australia. That is different to buying a board OS where not $1 of your purchase feeds the local industry.

oliver
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4 Oct 2010 5:45pm
Oh I see. Retailers buy products manufactured overseas in Australia and pay a middle person to import them. Big big difference.

It's now obvious that with me going OS and buying ONE board there, will cut out this Aussie middle person, and his poor family will starve as result.

I can now understand why this is such a passionate topic.... By even suggesting that it may be cheaper to do this. I can see that soon thousands like me will also do the same forcing struggling Aussie retailers into certain bankruptcy, which will of course be the end of all the events.

That's a big difference.
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