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malibujet
malibujet
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29 May 2013 9:13pm
Keen to get some idea of interest in competing in both surf and race events for Over 60's. In longboard events O/60 is always the first age division to fill up but there is no SUP O/60 events as yet. If you are in that age div would you enter events if they catered for it?
macs
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29 May 2013 9:27pm
yes mate I would ...I find that over 50's you are not in the race ...a lot of difference between 50 and 60...even though you feel there isn't and you still feel fit mother nature slowly takes over...
JonesySUP
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29 May 2013 9:31pm
malibujet said...
[br]Keen to get some idea of interest in competing in both surf and race events for Over 60's. In longboard events O/60 is always the first age division to fill up but there is no SUP O/60 events as yet. If you are in that age div would you enter events if they catered for it?
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Hey malibujet, the Sunny Coast Island Challenge Race and surf comp will be having a 60's division, lets see how many we get?


malibujet
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29 May 2013 10:47pm
Yeah Jonesy that's great. Must be the first time in Aus a SUP comp has included O/60's. I'm there.
glennc
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30 May 2013 7:15am
Hi Malabujet
I admire your attitude wanting to compete but I'm not sure the numbers will show.
I competed in the two nsw titles in the first over 50's division catagorey. Surf and racing.
Lucky to have 5 in all catagories bar for surfing one contest had 2 heats of 4.
Maybe if you showed for 0/50's and the numbers were up you could lobby for your division?
Mixup
Mixup
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30 May 2013 11:33am
glennc said..

Maybe if you showed for 0/50's and the numbers were up you could lobby for your division?


Maybe if you showed for the 50's, beat them, then they would lobby to get a 60's division going!
Possibly meeting the idea halfway could be to have a division that includes the 50s and 60s+ and then placings are awarded according to the highest scores/results in each age group?
Call it the 'Legends', 'Crusties', 'Old Bulls', etc...
dcc55
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30 May 2013 12:28pm
Sounds good, I will qualify in the next 2 years!
If numbers for 50/60s are a problem then combine the event but have separate results lists / prizes.
Dave
malibujet
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30 May 2013 2:07pm
Yeah Macs, I agree there is a big difference between 50 and 60. Maybe a combined 50/60 div could work. I have entered the Qld O/50 next weekend so will see how many they get.
macs
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30 May 2013 5:31pm
good idea malibujet that might be the go
LogeiaLad
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30 May 2013 6:32pm
I'm all for Over 60's division - could then lead to over 70's (I'm not far away). They do it with triathlons - so why not?
PTSUP
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30 May 2013 8:49pm
In Masters racing Pool and surf ,the older catogaries all go of together with the relevant age in niko on the calf or arm.So its really not a big logistic thing to have multiple ages.We welcome all ages to the Island Challenge at Surfair ,Sunny Coast 2nd 3rd November
NNSUP
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31 May 2013 11:52am
Mixup said..

glennc said..

Maybe if you showed for 0/50's and the numbers were up you could lobby for your division?


Maybe if you showed for the 50's, beat them, then they would lobby to get a 60's division going!
Possibly meeting the idea halfway could be to have a division that includes the 50s and 60s+ and then placings are awarded according to the highest scores/results in each age group?
Call it the 'Legends', 'Crusties', 'Old Bulls', etc...


I agree with Cocko. We've had to fight to get an over 50s division in the racing. Even though there are plenty of guys out there paddling in this age group there are only ever 5 or so of us at the events and to my knowledge no over 60s in NSW. If over 60's begin turning up there'll be a division but you'd need to get the numbers.
Leroy13
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31 May 2013 12:16pm
It is so sad that at that age, testosterone means that you want to prove your better than someone else. Boy it will help you pick up the chicks!! maybe you can make a living out of it. Why not just go out and compete against the most important person.... yourself. Personal bests are what it is all about!! Comps if they are social are fun and most people entering comps are lovely humans. I just don't think that over 50 or 60 your achieving anything but a bit of ego massaging. Hey just my opinion and even a one legged chook would beat me at most things!! But I would still enjoy cooking and eating it later
ockanui
ockanui
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31 May 2013 12:26pm
In the Sup Vic flat water comps we had a total 10 competitors inthe over 50's across all events with about 8 in the surf events, been a good result being the first season it's been introduced with new over 50's members joining all the time, been some pretty solid performances in this age group so far, with the Nationals coming up and getting to know the opposition is good for the comps, I think with a few more years of sup growth, the Over 60's should be an age group to cater for, sounds a bit weird to say, the older categories are the future, not discounting youth involvement and the need to encourage those groups, but with the aged, more time for involvement and the need to stay fit and healthy will see the numbers in those groups increase
dcc55
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31 May 2013 3:54pm
Maybe shorter race distances and you might get more of the older folk competing.
8kms on a 12 6 in open water is my max.
Haven't had a chance yet to try a down winder so maximum distance in this category is an unknown.
glennc
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31 May 2013 7:08pm
Hey Leroy
I'll give you my view on why I,m enjoying competing and being over 50.
It gives me goals to strive for and to be passionate about getting fit and training hard.
To be competitive against guys your own age inspires me to keep training rather than be disillusioned getting flogged by guys 30 years younger.
You may have given up with your small minded views , but gladly there still plently of older guys around that still want to push the envelope and test themslves against like mined people.

ockanui
ockanui
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31 May 2013 7:13pm
Yes your right Leroy if people in the older age groups are massaging egos to pick up chicks, that's sad... But if your into getting the best out of being fit, healthy and meeting a ****load of people with common interests and even achieving those personal bests then that is where I'm at and lots of others who are into the "comp scene" but we can also escape to have our " soulful sessions" as well, whilst maintaining the funnest aspect to it all, IMO
Leroy13
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31 May 2013 8:52pm
If you think I'm bagging really fit talented people like yourself then mate...... your absolutely right. Remember if you can't do, bag those that can. No matter which way I put it it was always gunna come out sounding ****e. Tell Sparx and Leon they can go f...k themselves as well. I reckon we should have a bbq after each session and then a quick session of mma to determine the winner at the end of the day. Just a thought. PE teaching 100kg and 15 years of martial arts training might level the playing field. Hey how did Kristy go over in the states? ?? Or are they still over there? ps Ocka chuck some of your boilers my way! ! to
Mixup
Mixup
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31 May 2013 9:14pm
glennc said..

To be competitive against guys your own age inspires me to keep training rather than be disillusioned getting flogged by guys 30 years younger.



Hey GC,
...you left out when you are getting flogged by the girls too.
glennc
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31 May 2013 9:39pm
Yes Mixup I'v gotten used to the taste of humble pie.
Yours will come
Leroy13
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31 May 2013 9:45pm
glennc said...
Hey Leroy
I'll give you my view on why I,m enjoying competing and being over 50.
It gives me goals to strive for and to be passionate about getting fit and training hard.
To be competitive against guys your own age inspires me to keep training rather than be disillusioned getting flogged by guys 30 years younger.
You may have given up with your small minded views , but gladly there still plently of older guys around that still want to push the envelope and test themslves against like mined people



Gc, Green thumb from me! I hope you achieve what ever it s that you want! Having lived and surfed up north in the late 70's and early 80's I know how competitive it is up there!!. I will take issue with you about being small minded. As Wayne Lynch and Michael Peterson were my surfing heroes I never felt it necessary to have to prove myself to anyone except myself. If that is small minded then so be it. I'd rather be flogged by a ten foot empty barrel than a sixeen year old local who is lucky enough to surf every day. Mahalo brother I hope I get a chance to surf with you one day at Tallow s or Spookys one day. Goofy foot as well
laceys lane
laceys lane
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31 May 2013 9:46pm
Leroy13 said..

It is so sad that at that age, testosterone means that you want to prove your better than someone else. Boy it will help you pick up the chicks!! maybe you can make a living out of it. Why not just go out and compete against the most important person.... yourself. Personal bests are what it is all about!! Comps if they are social are fun and most people entering comps are lovely humans. I just don't think that over 50 or 60 your achieving anything but a bit of ego massaging. Hey just my opinion and even a one legged chook would beat me at most things!! But I would still enjoy cooking and eating it later


all racing ego massaging- to prove your better than someone else.

why just pick old school chick magnets
surf4fun
surf4fun
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31 May 2013 8:38pm
I want an under 30's division. I am sick of having to compete with all you old boys who are more experienced than me!

I'm sure I will get my way one day (probably on my 30th birthday) but why hasn't it happened yet? Not enough people to warrant a division. Just like the O60's if there are enough to warrant a division I don't think you would have any trouble convincing a race organiser to accommodate them.
malibujet
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1 Jun 2013 11:31pm
I'm with you glennc, that's pretty much why I like to have a go as well but unless we can compete on an equal playing field with guys in our own age group we are wasting our time. I have been surfing for 50 years now and got into SUP surfing 3 yrs ago and lost 14kg, fittest I have been in years. If there is going to be 50's and 60's divs the event organisers need to put them in their events to see what numbers they attract. The old "Build It and They Will Come" thing is the only way to find out. The Sunshine Coast SUP Club has put an O/60 Race and Surf divisions in the Island Challenge scheduled for November so it will be a good test. So all you old bastards like me make sure you get in and have a go.
Leroy13
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2 Jun 2013 1:10am
Leroy13 said..

glennc said...
Hey Leroy
I'll give you my view on why I,m enjoying competing and being over 50.
It gives me goals to strive for and to be passionate about getting fit and training hard.
To be competitive against guys your own age inspires me to keep training rather than be disillusioned getting flogged by guys 30 years younger.
You may have given up with your small minded views , but gladly there still plently of older guys around that still want to push the envelope and test themslves against like mined people



Gc, Green thumb from me! I hope you achieve what ever it s that you want! Having lived and surfed up north in the late 70's and early 80's I know how competitive it is up there!!. I will take issue with you about being small minded. As Wayne Lynch and Michael Peterson were my surfing heroes I never felt it necessary to have to prove myself to anyone except myself. If that is small minded then so be it. I'd rather be flogged by a ten foot empty barrel than a sixeen year old local who is lucky enough to surf every day. Mahalo brother I hope I get a chance to surf with you one day at Tallow s or Spookys one day. Goofy foot as well


Hey GlennC and Malibu jet, Unless I'm speaking in a code that only you 2 understand then maybe you'd comprehend that I can understand your need to prove/motivate yourself Good on you!! You do realise the organisation that goes into any comp ie. council permits, mandatory insurance commitments, volunteers for safety to make the event legal (OH&S). Just to mention some of the more important aspects. So why don't you two get together and spend that extra 40 hours a week you've got up your sleeve and organise some comps, and while your at it organise the financial aspect of it as well. There are plenty of liked minded people called surfers who don't need the mandatory hand clapping and and arse slapping you two obviously need. . I've tried to be nice about it but honestly I give up!! I watched a dedicated bunch of guy's at Bass Sup get used then unwittingly get abused by a group of really nice but time poor guys ..... seriously, me included. The comps were fantastic and really well run. Unfortunately when it came to helping organise the events it was the same 6-10 ( some times less) guys doing all the work!!! I can't say thank you enough, since with four kids that all play weekend sport I just didn't have the time to help except on the day. That seems to be the way most local comps work. Unless you guys are holding back some information about how much you help run these comps, (in which case I'm deeply apologetic), then for what reason do you expect other people with family commitments, jobs outside of the industry and in a voluntary capacity, to organise comps for you and all your take it all, and give nothing back baby booming buddies to compete, in so that you can motivate yourself!!. I am pretty sure i'm not small minded. I'm a PE teacher with a graduate degree, a post graduate degree in teaching as well as being a qualified carpenter.
I spend a large part of every week (20 hours plus)of extra curricular time organising sporting events for other people's children! I love watching the look on kids faces when they experience success and in fact just the opportunity to compete. What disgusts me is adults that expect good hearted people to volunteer their time so they can assuage their ego's. . Why don't you compete against the under 30's and 40's if you really want to motivate yourselves. Briggsy, Leon, Ocka etc at the now defunct Bass Sup would to go in all of the age groups and do really well! I'm tired of walking on egg shells dealing with people that feel everyone else owes them a favour. What motivates me to surf better is to get out with (Mates) Sparxy, Ocka, Matty S, Leon and OG Phill and all the other top blokes from the Bass Sup crew in 6 ft (Double overhead) glassy waves and trying to improve my style, have a laugh and then a drink of red lemonade. People that just want to take without giving anything are in my opinion wankers So when you and your mates get off your clackers, stop casting aspersions about people that don't agree with you and start contributing more than just anonymous advice maybe then you can start making derogatory comments about others. See you from the break cause you guy's will probably be the ones not looking towards the peak but further down the line so you can motivate yourselves by dropping in!!! I haven't given up dudes, I've got a life

laceys lane
laceys lane
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2 Jun 2013 5:47am
whoa, where did that come from. looks like another topic in its self.

you either want to help or you don't. you shouldn't be the looks of it.

an angry helper is no help at all.

cheers

ex helper
macs
macs
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2 Jun 2013 7:49am
hey leroy13 relax man relax.....
glennc
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2 Jun 2013 8:44am
Hey Leroy.
Do you realize where talking about racing
Leroy13
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2 Jun 2013 11:01am
Sorry to all I offended and huge apologies to Rich who I missed out but gives heaps of his time free. No I didn't realize you were talking about racing .. So
Just disregard the rant about people who want things done but don't want to volunteer their valuable time. No I'm not a angry helper I do bugger all.. But I don't bag people that do volunteer their time and then have a shot at people that defend them. Mate if I called you a small minded you'd probably put out a hit on me. I respect your views and opinions Lacey and I swear I'm chilled. Just a bit tired in general. Last year a laminectomy, this year a hip replacement. At 55 it's a bit of a piss off. (Bloody Rugby)!! people don't seem to read the content. I actually agreed with the need for some people to have comps as a motivator. What I said was it doesn't happen by magic. This discussion would be better had over a couple of schooners of ale, but hey lifes not perfect! !! Cheers and enjoy you relative Sundays. Apologies once more, my ex wife explained that it was always my fault.
Surfrod66
Surfrod66
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2 Jun 2013 11:41am
Just an Idea but at the last NSW state titles the over 40,S to 50,s was the first filled division in the surfing and a lot of competitors in the racing., If you want an extra division for the older guys and girls then Open (21 to 45 years) seniors (45 to 55 years) Masters (55 over) may give you more competitors in the divisions.
I know as a 38 year old I would not mind surfing or racing against a 44 years old..And when I was 42 I would have line up against a 37 year old with out too many complaints,,, But as a 48 year old there is a big!!!! difference in my fitness compared to when I as 41..
I am not saying that this is an ideal soluition but it may end up giving us a more even number of competitors in the older division and then someone who is 61years old is only competiting against someone over 55!!!
My thoughts
malibujet
malibujet
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3 Jun 2013 1:34pm
Hey Leroy
What was that all about? All I wanted was to find out if there was any interest in an O/60's division in the SUP world as there is in longboarding. As far as volunteering my time, a bit harsh accusing us of not helping. How do you know what we do or don't do? Just so happens I'm the President of Noosa Malibu Club, you think the club runs itself? Chill out.
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