Currumbin Alley ABC 7.30 report

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Piros
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3 Aug 2013 5:53pm
The ABC contacted me a couple of weeks ago from my responses to the thread here on Seabreeze re boats and surfers at the Alley. It was on the ABC last night , this is the interview for those that missed it.

www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-02/moves-to-reduce-dangers-in-currumbin-alley/4862692?section=qld
CMC
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3 Aug 2013 6:27pm
It surprises me that the dredging strategy has still not been raised on this issue.

Put plainly if they blow it on the dredging it makes a whole summer of dangerous bar crossings for the boats. If they maintain the deep channel beside the rock wall the boats run up the left turn at the wall and out through Lacey's. With most people surfing near the rock this is obviously the best way to go.

All they need to do is talk to the lifeguards who monitor that bar closer than anyone.
Piros
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3 Aug 2013 6:29pm
At the moment it is almost impassable for boats if you dredge it that means more boats.
husq2100
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3 Aug 2013 8:54pm
Rob and Chris, you guys might know, is it true that the dredges are contractors and that they are ony contracted to dredge "x" amount per year? ie a set amount regardless of whats there? this would mean that if there has been more deposited than last year then they wont be able to do the full job. I have also heard that they can only dredge so far out, then it becomes Federal government zoning???
CMC
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4 Aug 2013 11:15am
Piros said..

At the moment it is almost impassable for boats if you dredge it that means more boats.


Yes, but they will dredge it as per their annual program.

One of the key lifeguards told me how he has seen the dredge take different approaches and how those approaches almost always have the same affect to not only the position of the channel that the boats need to take but also the state of the beaches at the mouth and how many rescues they will perform that summer. Yet, how much consultation is done with the lifeguards?? None. They speak to and have their meetings at the VMR with the bloke who thinks its really no issue but they don't talk to the surfers or more importantly those responsible for how many 100's of thousands of tourists each year.

The year the guy died (and Lifeguards tried to rescue) the boats were exiting from right of mid mouth rather than to the left side, the bank extended right across the mouth and boats were coming directly through the most crowded part of the break. It was an accident waiting to happen and in those conditions the risks amplified.

I'm not sure of the responsibilities as per Serg's question but if as the lifeguards say and I would trust to know the way the dredging is approached can lower the risk of injury or death it's surely something that should be not only considered but treated as gospel. 1 in 8000 accidents is too many if its one of your family's head being split open by a boat hull.

Again, I have no issues with the boats at all but I know that it's a chain reaction on how the bar is treated that makes it more risky for everyone.
62mac
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4 Aug 2013 9:42am
CMC makes some very good points,that guy from VMR was disgusting with his 1 in 8000 accidents comment.Is saving just one life that easy a ride off.

What about the dive boats at The Pass in Byron they sound their horn before entering the surf zone,surely this will help alert the water users that a boat is approaching.
husq2100
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4 Aug 2013 11:50am
Im not surprised by the VMR comments after seeing them in action doing "hot" laps out through the channel and along, in it, in front of laceys (between the outer breaking waves and the beach!) Repeating this about 10 times on a clean small surf day with plenty of people in the water. I know Rob has mentioned training, but this IMO was no way serving as any training. They had the open ocean to drive around in and conditions were not that to be practicing safe exiting or entry of the mouth. Plus the speeds they were doing right up to the groyne were way above 6 knots!
DavidJohn
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4 Aug 2013 11:56am
Great vid.. Scary stuff.

DJ
Zeusman
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4 Aug 2013 1:42pm
Wow! That looks absolutely hideous!! I can only imagine how many close calls all you guys that surf there must encounter. The way that old bloke kinda smirked & shrugged off the 1 in 8000 incidents as being minor would make me furious if I was a local there. Give me kooks on boards over kooks in boats any day!
miami
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4 Aug 2013 3:20pm
It's embarrassing how the VMR shrugged off the odds of 1 in 8000 , a wise old man once told me,
" it's a one in a million chance to win the lotto ,but every week someone wins "
teatrea
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4 Aug 2013 7:48pm
Too many close calls , crapping myself one day i had my daughter out for a surf pushed her onto a wave and she finished 100 odd meters from me in the channel and a boat heading straight her way gunning it! I wold have had the nouse to give it some room but a kid or the less aware may not scary stuff.Helped a boat of the bar a week ago he was very sheepish. I recon horns are a great idea , let everyone know a boats coming in and to be on your toes
Ali Cat
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4 Aug 2013 9:55pm
miami said..
It's embarrassing how the VMR shrugged off the odds of 1 in 8000


Totally agree, how can he say that 1 in 8000 isn't too bad?

I thought 1 in 8000 was actually pretty high! I don't know the stats, but I'm pretty sure if 1 in 8000 cyclists on Gold Coast roads was hit by a car and either seriously injured or killed, then people would be thinking it was pretty high, not an insignificant number.

Or on a larger scale, there's just over 6000 flights from the Gold Coast to Sydney each year. If there was one serious incident on that single route every 15 months (or every 7.5 months if you include inbound flights) - if the risk was that high would we all feel so comfortable about jumping on a plane, and would the authorities shrug it off?

Piros
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5 Aug 2013 9:28am
Have to agree the VMR comment is ridiculous . The boat traffic is so low at the moment because the entrance is all silted up , so how are the boats getting out ? Tweed & Southport bars and that’s probably how it should stay for the moment until something is sorted , but in reality there really is no safe way to take a boat through the Currumbin surf break full of surfers. As Mr VRM said one of us can expect to get run over every 7500 bar crossings. With the entrance silted up those crossing could take a few years to get to the 7500 , dredge it and make it deep that could make the 7500 bar crossings happen in one year......
62mac
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11 Aug 2013 12:41pm
Another incident this time the seaway.

www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes
wazznotwazz
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11 Aug 2013 11:01pm
thanks for sharing, agree with the 1 in 8000 thing, that's scary.

boaties around clontarf/balmoral for me have been great, very considerate so far


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