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poor relative
poor relative
WA
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13 Jul 2008 5:39pm
Ok its time.
I'm after a couple of boards to demo in Perth for a friend and myself
Who does it.....
What about that place in Nedlands do they do demos?
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
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WA, 3183 posts
13 Jul 2008 6:30pm
good decision reli, u wont look back


off the top of my head

2nd wind naish 11'6 and sb 11'2 - check first.
windshack - lairds and a mistral
auswind, starboards...
choice kite, lairds
windforce used to have a naish demo
the longboard shop at scarbs has a southpoint kalama for demo

the surf shop at hillarys marina looks like it has a couple of 2nd handers for sale - the walden board there, would be a good entry level - nice all round board

once you've tried the 30'' boards your welcome to give my JL a spin - 28.5''

try to get a board that offers a bit of challenge, don't jump straight on the easiest. you'll outgrow it too quickly


poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
13 Jul 2008 7:56pm
So is a 30 wide thats kinda the newbie super stable type.

I guess 30 years of surfing would mean i could go a narrower sort eh?

I want it for waves and waves only and possibly as a stepping stone for my daughter to get into surfing as well.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
13 Jul 2008 10:14pm
Hey Reli, welcome to the stoke
I have the Starboard 11'2 and 9'8 and you are welcome to try them.
They are both 30 wide.
I personally dont see any drama with having a 30 wide SUP.
Also another thing to look at is what kinda wave you want to get with it?
Is it gonna be a summer thing when there is no wind and swell?
Or do you want it to get some sick breaking fast waves?
I reckon what you should do first is to try the boards out on the river or marina just to see how the stability is for you. We could meet down at Hillarys and also get Millers JL.
This will give you an idea
sparki
sparki
WA
410 posts
WA, 410 posts
13 Jul 2008 11:32pm
Hey Greenroom, I'm looking at the Starboard 9'8" (still! cant seem to be able to save up the money!) as my SUP. Do you reckon I should go and buy a Starboard or should I try out both the Starboard and Naish 9'6"? I don't know if I can be bothered trying them out if I can be made certain from experienced individuals that the Starboard handles well on most waves...then I'll be sold and have my mind to rest
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
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14 Jul 2008 12:20am
Looks like you already know which board you want
SF
SF
NSW
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SF SF
NSW, 161 posts
14 Jul 2008 10:19am
sparki, I don't see the 9'6" Naish as a competitor to the 9'8" Starboard. It is much more of a high performance board and consequently less stable. The Naish is narrower, is more pulled in at the nose and tail and has stepped rails which will make it feel even narrower.
Stand Up
Stand Up
WA
73 posts
WA, 73 posts
14 Jul 2008 10:02am
Hi PR,

We have all the Starboards and the Naish 11'6 available to Demo.

Give us a call on 9244 4162 to arrange a time to come pick them up.

30 inches wide is the magic number when it comes to SUP's - the extra stability just means more waves as you spend more time on top of the water than in it, especially when there is a light onshore and there are sweet waves to be had but just a little bit of chop.

Definately if you plan on getting into overhead surf regularily there are advantages to the narrower boards but if you going to be out mostly in knee to chest high Perth waves you are kidding yourself getting a board less than 30 wide.

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
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14 Jul 2008 3:04pm
Stand Up said...

Hi PR,

We have all the Starboards and the Naish 11'6 available to Demo.

Give us a call on 9244 4162 to arrange a time to come pick them up.

30 inches wide is the magic number when it comes to SUP's - the extra stability just means more waves as you spend more time on top of the water than in it, especially when there is a light onshore and there are sweet waves to be had but just a little bit of chop.

Definately if you plan on getting into overhead surf regularily there are advantages to the narrower boards but if you going to be out mostly in knee to chest high Perth waves you are kidding yourself getting a board less than 30 wide.




Thanks guys
PM sent

So greenie when you free for us to come and play next week?

Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
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14 Jul 2008 10:36pm
poor relative said...

So greenie when you free for us to come and play next week?

When its not windy
This week looks like a write off for SUPing


WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
14 Jul 2008 11:07pm
Stand Up said...





Definately if you plan on getting into overhead surf regularily there are advantages to the narrower boards but if you going to be out mostly in knee to chest high Perth waves you are kidding yourself getting a board less than 30 wide.






DISAGREE, i'm just a newb with 7 mths paddlin experience -now on a JL 10'4 at 28.5 wide - and getting heaps of fun in the small perth waves, catching just as many as i did on my old 30.

Stability -When it's glass u can't tell the difference, small chop is very do-able, rarely fall in - big chop your going to be fighting the wind and on your arse on a 30 aswell.....

Benefits - surf better - gonna turn faster, and switch from rail to rail faster..

Disadvantage - yep it's going to be harder to learn on,not as enjoyable when its choppy, give you more of a phsical work out....that should be a benefit for me

kitersi learnt to paddle on a 26'' old windsurfer!


sunday might be the day!!!








Paul
Paul
WA
346 posts
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15 Jul 2008 1:16pm
I have the star 11'2 demo available for a try and for sale if interested. I am going a bit smaller for wave use. But still think the 11'2 to be the perfect allrounder.
cheers
Paul
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eric344
eric344
138 posts
138 posts
15 Jul 2008 2:39pm
Stand Up said...

Hi PR,



30 inches wide is the magic number when it comes to SUP's - the extra stability just means more waves as you spend more time on top of the water than in it, especially when there is a light onshore and there are sweet waves to be had but just a little bit of chop.





Haha, I remember reading :
"30 inches wide is the magic number when it comes to SUP's" in this forum something like 6-7 month ago ...
Then I took a look at my board and it was ... 27' wide !!

IMO, there isn't any "magic number" ; the perfect width will depends on the shape ; a really short board needs to be around 28 to 30" wide to keep the volume
a Long board can be narrower


Perth has small waves but they can be really fast (dutchies with low tide, Scarbs, Mettams right), you don't want extra width in those waves



Definately if you plan on getting into overhead surf regularily there are advantages to the narrower boards but if you going to be out mostly in knee to chest high Perth waves you are kidding yourself getting a board less than 30 wide.




I'm riding everyday in Perth on the small Laird that is 10'x27", and I love it, I get as much waves as when I started on the big Mistral Pacifico and now I can do more radical cut backs, nose 360's, powerfull bottom turns and big off the lips (I remember having lot of fun on the Pacifico as well, I don't regret any session I had on it !!!)

I guess it only depends on who you are and what you're looking for, but for sure, no one (even beginners) getting a board less than 30 wide is kidding himself, the same as no one using boards MORE than 30' wide is on the wrong side, it can be the best option for big riders or for those who are not planning to SUP everyday and are just after fun "no worries" boards

I had couple of sessions with a guy riding a 12'1 x 31" Laird (the guy is 90kg+) in Dutchies, and he was ripping, the board was something like Yellow with red strips

Btw, anyone who'd like to try my board, just ask me when you see me on the water, I'm always happy to swap and try other boards,

Eric
tomasb
tomasb
64 posts
64 posts
15 Jul 2008 6:09pm
Well said Windy and Eric!

To say "30 inches is the magic number" takes no consideration of riders weight or skill level (even in Perth) A wide board planing (surfing!) at speed WILL be harder rail to rail than a narrow one, period.

I've watched Eric on his Laird, he does all the moves he says here and with great skill and style!

By all means start on a wide board (or even stay on one if it's for family etc) but to make the two statements "30 inches wide is the magic number" & "you are kidding yourself etc" is both misinformed and misleading. Surely only comes from the fact that (they) cannot sell you any starboard under 30 inches wide...

I could have said a lot more but the purpose here is not to flame, simply to keep it honest. A lot of people read this forum to learn about a growing sport not to be brainwashed...

By all means promote your business - but at least be ethical about it!
Reflex Films
Reflex Films
WA
1463 posts
WA, 1463 posts
15 Jul 2008 8:50pm
i agree that with experience (or under 70 kg) you can go under 30 for sure.

BUT - my first few goes were on a board that was 27 - and i HAD NO FUN.

In fact i was uninspired to ever go SUPPING again.

Then - after a few months- i rode an 11'2 x 30 and everything made sense - and i had heaps of confidence in the surf.

In my opinion - MUCh better to be a few cms too wide than even 1 cm too narrow.
Its very important to make sure that rider's first goes are an enjoyable experience - and the majority of riders are just that- new. After more than a year of SUP riding i'm still on 30 inches wide - and very reluctant to go much narrower. I rode a board that was 28cm in hawaii - for me personally (87 kgs) - it was a lot harder to stay on.

Some riders will rip on HUGE boards others will smash it on narrow ones - but keep in mind that its VERY important that your first board is easy.


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