Etiquette of naming breaks...

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windjunky
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7 Apr 2016 4:30pm
What's the etiquette on naming a break??

Had a surf at Zappers (Shoreham/Flinders) this morning, and bumped into Phil Trigger in the car park.
He said that spot was first named "Hernandoes" (I assume that's the spelling) back in the 70's.
And then was called 'Dreamlands' by the next generation who surfed there.
And now is called 'Zappers'.

Should we be using the original name?? i.e., Hernandoes?
[And does it really matter??]

BTW: he also said "I'm an internet neanderthal; do you reckon anyone uses the Trigger webcams?"


PTWoody
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7 Apr 2016 5:32pm
I wondered about that too as my wife's family were virtually locals to Point Leo and Shoreham, and while she was very familiar with Pines and Crunchies and Suicide, she had never heard of Zappers or most of the other names we use for breaks in the area these days. It does seem strange that the names get changed.

As for the Trigger webcams, tell Phil we would use them if we could see through the low resolution and fogged lenses.
windjunky
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7 Apr 2016 6:20pm
According to Phil, Crunchies was named after a bloke who worked at Rowntree chocolates who always had a bunch of Violet Crumbles in the car...
Leroy13
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7 Apr 2016 8:31pm
'Crunchies" It's the sound your fins make when you do a bottom turn just after the inside take off zone on a lowish tide . Just like RAAFs in Barwon Heads is named that because the RAAF used to do their water training there. For many years in the 60s and early 70s it was definitely called McGoos, why I don't know but my uncle nicknamed "Cooler" started surfing there with a heap of other blokes, around 1963 on an original Gordy Clark foam, Mickey Munoz shaped Hobie he bought back from Socal in 1962 and he and his mates always called it McGoos. I think it was because in those days you could camp in the dunes there legally and the Family that had a tent there had a wooden sign in front with "Mc Goos" on it. The Last one is Jan Juc. On a really high tide as you walk over the sand dunes from Torquay. There is a peak that is just bare rock on low tide it is called Halfbreak or Bensmole after the two guys that first surfed it Damian Bennet and Anthony Mole. Sensational on a King tide but empties out really quickly and causes serious dings. Definitely not for SUPS. So there is no actual etiquette, an anonymous brain surgeon named 'Big Left', "Big Left" And 'Bald Rock' at Wye River is a Bald rock that you end up on when the tide gets too full .
HumanCartoon
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8 Apr 2016 11:06pm
...and Zappers (Zapper Point) was so named by some once-young blokes who used to walk in from the top - at a time when the landowner had electric fences
cantSUPenough
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9 Apr 2016 5:31am

BTW: he also said "I'm an internet neanderthal; do you reckon anyone uses the Trigger webcams?"




I love those Webcams!! Praise be to the Trigger brothers!
DavidJohn
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9 Apr 2016 6:13am
cantSUPenough said..


BTW: he also said "I'm an internet neanderthal; do you reckon anyone uses the Trigger webcams?"





I love those Webcams!! Praise be to the Trigger brothers!


Every day I use them..
Shley
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9 Apr 2016 7:17am
Yeah I use the cams everyday.
Shley
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9 Apr 2016 7:19am
I've heard that break called Dreamlands, Zappers, O'Briens and Agas (Agapantha farm)
cantSUPenough
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9 Apr 2016 7:37am
I have heard it called "Sharkies" because there are so many sharks there - so it is probably safer if no one surfed there anymore.
Shley
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9 Apr 2016 9:10am
Completely agree. Better safe than sorry
HumanCartoon
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9 Apr 2016 9:24am
cantSUPenough said..
I have heard it called "Sharkies" because there are so many sharks there - so it is probably safer if no one surfed there anymore.



Have never seen a shark there...plenty of snakes though...
rodriguez
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9 Apr 2016 9:31am
Little Noosa,used to be called Black Rock when I first surfed it back in the 60's.
Mastbender
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9 Apr 2016 7:59am
To the original question, etiquette?
I don't think there is any etiquette involved at all.
The surf breaks that are connected to a permanent structure like a pier or jetty, or a geographical structure like a point or beach, or just plain famous, tend to keep their names in place.
But for all those other breaks, their (fictitious) names seem to evolve with the changing generations, and will probably continue to do so.
There is this one break close to where I live called, "Tom's rock", "little rock", "north exotics", "south San Simeon Creek", and the latest one is "dirt parking lot", it's all the same one defined peak.
It seems to depend on the age of the person you are talking to as to which name goes where. Most of the breaks that I know with fictitious names have more than one name, and in most cases several.
But if you find a break that has no name, you have to name it after yourself, that's where the etiquette kicks in.
alohahugo
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9 Apr 2016 10:31am
Do the navy boys still do live firing of machine guns at flinders
I think we called the breaks out front of the cliff Gunnery , Mexicos and Meanos
It was a big climb down and an even bigger climb back up the cliff with cold blue feet
Use to love that oily shark smell in the morning when you couldn't see your feet in the kelp, scary sh#t sometimes
Then a chocolate Big M at the flinders store stick your head in to the old Balin factory to see about these new leg rope thingys

Guess they have an inclinator there now for the new generation

Now i am getting old and crusty
SupsailDave
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9 Apr 2016 11:28am
I also use the surf cams reguarly. More so the sandy point one. Keep em going
Leroy13
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9 Apr 2016 12:11pm
Mastbender said..
To the original question, etiquette?
I don't think there is any etiquette involved at all.
The surf breaks that are connected to a permanent structure like a pier or jetty, or a geographical structure like a point or beach, or just plain famous, tend to keep their names in place.
But for all those other breaks, their (fictitious) names seem to evolve with the changing generations, and will probably continue to do so.
There is this one break close to where I live called, "Tom's rock", "little rock", "north exotics", "south San Simeon Creek", and the latest one is "dirt parking lot", it's all the same one defined peak.
It seems to depend on the age of the person you are talking to as to which name goes where. Most of the breaks that I know with fictitious names have more than one name, and in most cases several.
But if you find a break that has no name, you have to name it after yourself, that's where the etiquette kicks in.


+1. Absolutely spot on
supthecreek
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10 Apr 2016 7:20am
I rename all breaks after my line-up marks
One of my favorites is "Blue PP"

I know when I am in the right spot, when the Pole is on the Peak of the Blue cottage.
The order is reversed for secrecy. Plus I never tell anyone.


Cobra
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10 Apr 2016 9:06pm
theres some blokes calling Little marley ,LM….now thats just ****'n ridiculous.
Macaha
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11 Apr 2016 12:37pm
Cobra said..
theres some blokes calling Little marley ,LM….now thats just ****'n ridiculous.


Its Mali snake man
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