Fin Box Mystery

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faito anto
faito anto
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181 posts
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7 May 2012 8:20pm
Hi All,

Had a rather odd problem on the weekend.

The fin screw on my Starboard Drive wouldn't catch the nut when trying to screw the fin into the fin box. This has never happened to me before, and it was all fine two weeks ago (when I previously used the board).

The nut still fit the screw on the fin when outside of the fin box, just not in the fin box, as if the screw was not long enough to reach the nut inside the fin box.

I've never had this problem with SUP or in decades of windsurfing. It really annoyed me since I drove 90 minutes from Melbourne to get to the waves on the Surf Coast.

I still can't work out what's happened.

a) Has the screw shrunk/contracted?
b) Is it the nut?
c) Has a layer of plastic etc in the fin box disappeared which now makes the nut further away from the hole in the fin where the screw enters
d) Something else?
PaulVee
PaulVee
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126 posts
VIC, 126 posts
7 May 2012 8:33pm
Try flipping the nut over. Maybe the thread is stripped on one side.
wazsup
wazsup
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VIC, 18 posts
7 May 2012 8:35pm
Hey Ant,
Had the same problem with a starby, it was the flat brass nut that was threaded on the inside. Try both a new nut and bolt, as the bolt would have caused the threading. They should be available at any decent surf/sup shop.
Cheers WB
micksmith
micksmith
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7 May 2012 8:40pm
I seem to remember this happening to me or was it my brother, some years ago with a windsurfer. anyway it turned out that all I had to do was turn the plate over, not saying thats definately your problem but worth a shot.
My other thought is, was the fin sitting true or slightly raised.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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17570 posts
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7 May 2012 9:49pm
If that screw has got wet it has probably shrunk.

Just kidding.. Eat some Wheaties and with the board upside down get our left hand palm against the leading edge at the base of the fin.. and right hand palm on the rear of the fin near the tip.. and push.. You migh find that the fin will push into the box just a fraction and let the screw pick up the plate.. Good luck and don't cut your hand..

DJ
gregc
gregc
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1299 posts
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7 May 2012 9:57pm
happens a bit as the screw and the nut get older and strip out. Also just carrying on from DJs line, it could even be that a little bit of grit has got into the fin box and now won't let the fin slide all the way in. Back in the way old days I always remember the screw for your fin box had a good bit of extra length on it, nowadays its a very near fit so a little grit or a tiny bit of stripping out can stop the whole thing tying together. Go to a surf shop and buy good quality stainless steel fittings to replace your existing ones, the brass fittings are IMO way too soft.
ShireSUP
ShireSUP
NSW
982 posts
NSW, 982 posts
7 May 2012 10:46pm
DavidJohn said...

If that screw has got wet it has probably shrunk.

Just kidding.. Eat some Wheaties and with the board upside down get our left hand palm against the leading edge at the base of the fin.. and right hand palm on the rear of the fin near the tip.. and push.. You migh find that the fin will push into the box just a fraction and let the screw pick up the plate.. Good luck and don't cut your hand..

DJ


Or in my case you cant do it by love, do it by force get a rubber mallet!
faito anto
faito anto
VIC
181 posts
VIC, 181 posts
7 May 2012 10:46pm
Hi All,

Firstly, thanks for your replies.

I did try flipping the nut, as well as pushing the fin in harder.

The fin did appear to be all the way in.

Anyway, I'll take the advice of those who have said to buy a new screw/bolt and nut from a surf shop or marine store. Maybe I'll buy an extra set to keep in the car, just in case it ever happens again.

gregc
gregc
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7 May 2012 11:23pm
I have about 5 sets in the car at all times as I am prone to losing **** a lot :)
gregc
gregc
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7 May 2012 11:24pm
Shire what you do in your deeply personal moments is of course for own business :)
micksmith
micksmith
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1701 posts
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8 May 2012 7:39am
so from this we've learnt its important to have a good screw and if we dont it could be that it's too soft and we should get our mallet out. I think
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
8 May 2012 8:55am
You will find that there is room within the slot for the plate to move up and down, occasionally the fin sits higher holding the screw slightly above the plate.

The simple solution is to use a straw or paddle pop stick under the plate to hold it higher in the track. This makes it easier to reach. Once done up you can flick the straw out.

ScarbsSUP
ScarbsSUP
WA
354 posts
WA, 354 posts
8 May 2012 10:29am
Hi FA,

I have found a couple of boards where the recessed slot in the fin box is not quite even, same goes for the nut plate being less than symmetrical. If the nut plate is slightly (even .5mm) out, coupled with a box which is ever so slightly offset, it can make the screw impossible to align with the nut.

Turn the nut over or 180 deg. and try again. Should fix the problem. Have a look down the hole in the fin and see if the screw plate is perfectly lined up. If it is, maybe the fin hasn't pushed in deep enough to engage the first threads of the screw. Grab the back of the fin with a folded towel and give it a good wrench forwards from the trailing edge.

DM

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