If I see a group of visiting surfers checking it out I will tell them that it sucks, tide will kill it, and much better over there.

But of course it is with a grin only.

No, have had people being passive aggressive or unfriendly when just saying hello and asking how they are, but no threats.

les71 said..
With the udertone of violence?

No it seems as my skill level has increased much more common now for positive comments out in the lineup. There are so many learners out during the pandemic that I am the least of their worries. Often the lineup migrates over to where I am catching waves and enjoying the rides. The beach breaks are long and spread out with little sense of local entitlement. The preferred takeoff areas tend to move around quite a bit with shifting tides and sandbars. With the bigger winter swell the learners are on the inside and the better surfers able to get through the white water to the outside. I am told that Jordan River (point break) and Sombrio on the south end of the island can be aggressive but I have not surfed there for over a decade. The number of surfers in the water here has probably doubled over the past year.

Bob

I really want to write a long comment on how to handle this situation, but it would be mostly anecdotal... The thing is, if someone is making threats to someone holding a 2 meter weapon, that's already a good indicator that they're too stupid to have a rational conversation with. Just laughing it off and going to a different peak is the only way you're going to have fun. One would think this reinforces the bad behavior, but in reality, they're already miserable, and the more brazen they become, the closer they are to meeting the guy who will crack their skull with a paddle (I've seen it).

We have spot where locals choked a guy out just for taking pictures, wasn't even surfing. Shortboarder friends have stories of tires slashed, rocks thrown, fighting- I see how this has worked well for the locals (people avoid the wave), but sad to see adults act like this

I just don't bother hanging in a group of prone surfers for that reason. I want a fun day. So I look for the least crowded spot. It's funny how the prone surfers start to migrate to your spot when it gets better.
But if not I usually have to pass the crowd & steal (respectively surf etiquette) their so called wave when leaving.
You dont have to face their crap if you dont paddle back out.
Personally I dont think large surf craft including mals mix well with groups of prone boarders anyway. Its so easy to steal most waves and can be dangerous. It all depends on the location & type of people when you can all mix. Less crowded the better.
But so annoying & rude! If you're told you're not welcome before even getting in the water. One day they might just need a person on a SUP to help save their life? You never know.

For me, the worst experiences of localism have usually happened at spots I'd consider beginner waves. So intermediate numpties who think that now they can get on the face of a wave they have the right to act tough.
Best one was at Orewa on a 2ft day (a crumbly beginners wave near my house). A longboarder lined me up and proceeded to ram into me then gave me ****. So of course I gave it right back, then sat just outside him and snaked him for the rest of the session. He realised I had about 40 kegs on him and could snap him in half if I wanted but luckily I was feeling mellow that day.

F * ck those guys

Hectic Oki! Never had anything directly just the passive aggressive stuff.

I mainly surf beach breaks or reef breaks where there is a pretty clear zone that SUP's hang out, guess I just don't end up in line ups where it could happen but never say never. Being forced to find my own peak has lead to some amazing waves away from the crowds though.

I did see a full on aggro SUP surfer down south run right over a longboarder when paddling onto a wave, lined him up and rode the SUP right over the top of him and kept paddling like he was going to go over him to get the wave - was a wierd, funny, confronting and confusing thing to see, the bloke was build like a brick s**t house and looked mean as hell - the bloke he ran over was in shock and didnt know what to say, the SUP surfer reversed off his back, gave him a spray and paddled back out! The Longboarder didn't really do anything, was just one of 6 guys looking to get onto the wave that goes left and right..

Kisutch said..
We have spot where locals choked a guy out just for taking pictures, wasn't even surfing. Shortboarder friends have stories of tires slashed, rocks thrown, fighting- I see how this has worked well for the locals (people avoid the wave), but sad to see adults act like this

Where? Or, what coast if you can't say?

Kisutch said..
the place I'm talking about is seaside point OR, it's been written about in Stab, Inertia, regional news, so no secret. Two L barreling point breaks if I understand correct

Somewhere in new zealand?

Yeah, sorry I missed the post, different continent:)

Chris_M said..
But feel free to come over here and get shot at for surfing Kawhia.

The silver lining is, whenever a Kawhia local comes to surf any other break, people are allowed to shoot right back at them.

Makes for a pleasant time out in the water thats for sure

stabmag.com/news/surfers-shot-at-during-possible/

In the article, they say if you surf there without an invitation you get aggression? Is this true?
I hope not. My views of new zealand will be changed forever. I currently think nz is sup paradise. You know...no shortboards cause it's too cold, great small surf spots protected from the southerly winds and lots and lots of left hand points with Dave dobblyn singing slice of heaven from the top of the headland with his mates.

Chris_M said..
For me, the worst experiences of localism have usually happened at spots I'd consider beginner waves. So intermediate numpties who think that now they can get on the face of a wave they have the right to act tough.
Best one was at Orewa on a 2ft day (a crumbly beginners wave near my house). A longboarder lined me up and proceeded to ram into me then gave me ****. So of course I gave it right back, then sat just outside him and snaked him for the rest of the session. He realised I had about 40 kegs on him and could snap him in half if I wanted but luckily I was feeling mellow that day.

F * ck those guys

Bahaha localism at Orewa.... that's funny as!!!