If I see a group of visiting surfers checking it out I will tell them that it sucks, tide will kill it, and much better over there.
But of course it is with a grin only.
If I see a group of visiting surfers checking it out I will tell them that it sucks, tide will kill it, and much better over there.
But of course it is with a grin only.
Haha.
For this I mean, 'take that sup out of here or I'm fighting your right now' type of of threat.
No, have had people being passive aggressive or unfriendly when just saying hello and asking how they are, but no threats.
With the udertone of violence?
No it seems as my skill level has increased much more common now for positive comments out in the lineup. There are so many learners out during the pandemic that I am the least of their worries. Often the lineup migrates over to where I am catching waves and enjoying the rides. The beach breaks are long and spread out with little sense of local entitlement. The preferred takeoff areas tend to move around quite a bit with shifting tides and sandbars. With the bigger winter swell the learners are on the inside and the better surfers able to get through the white water to the outside. I am told that Jordan River (point break) and Sombrio on the south end of the island can be aggressive but I have not surfed there for over a decade. The number of surfers in the water here has probably doubled over the past year.
Bob
Maybe once. I've heard other forms of negative reinforcement, which is normal, but its par for the course. Funny, most surfers are really nice when you get out. Its just on the waves they get more territorial. Pretty good overall experience in my breaks in NYC and in Massachusetts. Often I am the only sup surfer out there sometimes with 30-40 surfers on one jetty. And I am always way more forgiving of others behaviour then of my own....
I really want to write a long comment on how to handle this situation, but it would be mostly anecdotal... The thing is, if someone is making threats to someone holding a 2 meter weapon, that's already a good indicator that they're too stupid to have a rational conversation with. Just laughing it off and going to a different peak is the only way you're going to have fun. One would think this reinforces the bad behavior, but in reality, they're already miserable, and the more brazen they become, the closer they are to meeting the guy who will crack their skull with a paddle (I've seen it).
Maybe once. I've heard other forms of negative reinforcement, which is normal, but its par for the course. Funny, most surfers are really nice when you get out. Its just on the waves they get more territorial. Pretty good overall experience in my breaks in NYC and in Massachusetts. Often I am the only sup surfer out there sometimes with 30-40 surfers on one jetty. And I am always way more forgiving of others behaviour then of my own....
R they dropin in
We have spot where locals choked a guy out just for taking pictures, wasn't even surfing. Shortboarder friends have stories of tires slashed, rocks thrown, fighting- I see how this has worked well for the locals (people avoid the wave), but sad to see adults act like this
I had a mate who was out recently, after arriving out the back with only one other person (a surfer) he said gday to him, and was greeted with a **** off.
This guy also at one stage grabbed his leg rope. Knowing what he was doing, my mate made sure that he fell right on the back of the surfer..
This didn't lead to fisty cuffs, but instead respect, especially after he saw that my mate could surf.
I just don't bother hanging in a group of prone surfers for that reason. I want a fun day. So I look for the least crowded spot. It's funny how the prone surfers start to migrate to your spot when it gets better.
But if not I usually have to pass the crowd & steal (respectively surf etiquette) their so called wave when leaving.
You dont have to face their crap if you dont paddle back out.
Personally I dont think large surf craft including mals mix well with groups of prone boarders anyway. Its so easy to steal most waves and can be dangerous. It all depends on the location & type of people when you can all mix. Less crowded the better.
But so annoying & rude! If you're told you're not welcome before even getting in the water. One day they might just need a person on a SUP to help save their life? You never know.
Maybe once. I've heard other forms of negative reinforcement, which is normal, but its par for the course. Funny, most surfers are really nice when you get out. Its just on the waves they get more territorial. Pretty good overall experience in my breaks in NYC and in Massachusetts. Often I am the only sup surfer out there sometimes with 30-40 surfers on one jetty. And I am always way more forgiving of others behaviour then of my own....
R they dropin in
No drop-ins so far. Subtle ones of course, people edging you out, but no overt intentional as_shole drop-ins.
For me, the worst experiences of localism have usually happened at spots I'd consider beginner waves. So intermediate numpties who think that now they can get on the face of a wave they have the right to act tough.
Best one was at Orewa on a 2ft day (a crumbly beginners wave near my house). A longboarder lined me up and proceeded to ram into me then gave me ****. So of course I gave it right back, then sat just outside him and snaked him for the rest of the session. He realised I had about 40 kegs on him and could snap him in half if I wanted but luckily I was feeling mellow that day.
F * ck those guys
I had a mate who was out recently, after arriving out the back with only one other person (a surfer) he said gday to him, and was greeted with a **** off.
This guy also at one stage grabbed his leg rope. Knowing what he was doing, my mate made sure that he fell right on the back of the surfer..
This didn't lead to fisty cuffs, but instead respect, especially after he saw that my mate could surf.
Last time someone grabbed my leg rope was over 20 years ago. I smashed him so horribly that I had to rescue swim him to shore or he would have drown. That was also the day I stopped surfing with other people... Saw where surfing was going, and what it was doing to me mentally. A few years back, I met a loner on a SUP who no one ever talks to, but goes where he wants, with impunity, and no one ever says boo. Nice enough guy when I talk to him. So I asked someone about him, and turns out some pronies started crap with him a few years back, and he smashed one of them over the head with the paddle pretty bad. Ambulance, and all that. I don't know how it turned out legally, but everyone is afraid of him now. Nice guy. Abides by the etiquette. Don't grab his leg rope Talk crap all you want, but the second you touch someone, you better be up to it. Better to just avoid it all together, if possible.
Hectic Oki! Never had anything directly just the passive aggressive stuff.
I mainly surf beach breaks or reef breaks where there is a pretty clear zone that SUP's hang out, guess I just don't end up in line ups where it could happen but never say never. Being forced to find my own peak has lead to some amazing waves away from the crowds though.
I did see a full on aggro SUP surfer down south run right over a longboarder when paddling onto a wave, lined him up and rode the SUP right over the top of him and kept paddling like he was going to go over him to get the wave - was a wierd, funny, confronting and confusing thing to see, the bloke was build like a brick s**t house and looked mean as hell - the bloke he ran over was in shock and didnt know what to say, the SUP surfer reversed off his back, gave him a spray and paddled back out! The Longboarder didn't really do anything, was just one of 6 guys looking to get onto the wave that goes left and right..
Regularly back when SUP was all the rage. Saying that I feel the agro has died off with SUP surfing becoming less a thing at the spots I frequent. I don't think the prone riders are as paranoid nowadays that the stand up goat boat menace are making a move on their turf. Might even be calmer on this forum now the fad has died?
We have spot where locals choked a guy out just for taking pictures, wasn't even surfing. Shortboarder friends have stories of tires slashed, rocks thrown, fighting- I see how this has worked well for the locals (people avoid the wave), but sad to see adults act like this
Where? Or, what coast if you can't say?
the place I'm talking about is seaside point OR, it's been written about in Stab, Inertia, regional news, so no secret. Two L barreling point breaks if I understand correct
the place I'm talking about is seaside point OR, it's been written about in Stab, Inertia, regional news, so no secret. Two L barreling point breaks if I understand correct
Somewhere in new zealand?
the place I'm talking about is seaside point OR, it's been written about in Stab, Inertia, regional news, so no secret. Two L barreling point breaks if I understand correct
Somewhere in new zealand?
I think it's Seaside Point Oregon
But feel free to come over here and get shot at for surfing Kawhia.
The silver lining is, whenever a Kawhia local comes to surf any other break, people are allowed to shoot right back at them.
Makes for a pleasant time out in the water thats for sure
stabmag.com/news/surfers-shot-at-during-possible/
But feel free to come over here and get shot at for surfing Kawhia.
The silver lining is, whenever a Kawhia local comes to surf any other break, people are allowed to shoot right back at them.
Makes for a pleasant time out in the water thats for sure
stabmag.com/news/surfers-shot-at-during-possible/
In the article, they say if you surf there without an invitation you get aggression? Is this true?
I hope not. My views of new zealand will be changed forever. I currently think nz is sup paradise. You know...no shortboards cause it's too cold, great small surf spots protected from the southerly winds and lots and lots of left hand points with Dave dobblyn singing slice of heaven from the top of the headland with his mates.
Sorry to spoil your dream Les71!
Yep you'll get shot at that place.
Most other places are more friendly than that though. Some places only slash your tyres and snap your windscreen wipers off.
Its recommended to stay away from the points, but there are so many beach breaks that you can always find some sweet waves to yourself.
Seen a few classic moments go down around the raglan area, those guys can be feisty, think they are all Bhodi from pointbreak, which is lame, because that movie is old AF
For me, the worst experiences of localism have usually happened at spots I'd consider beginner waves. So intermediate numpties who think that now they can get on the face of a wave they have the right to act tough.
Best one was at Orewa on a 2ft day (a crumbly beginners wave near my house). A longboarder lined me up and proceeded to ram into me then gave me ****. So of course I gave it right back, then sat just outside him and snaked him for the rest of the session. He realised I had about 40 kegs on him and could snap him in half if I wanted but luckily I was feeling mellow that day.
F * ck those guys
Bahaha localism at Orewa.... that's funny as!!!