How much difference between paddles?

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cranky
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12 Aug 2008 2:26pm
For someone at beginners level (me) is there any advantage in a good paddle?
DavidJohn
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12 Aug 2008 4:43pm
I think in the beginning it's not such a big deal.

But once you get past the learning stage (the first week or so) and head towards the intermediate level the difference is HUGE!!..

It's possibly even more important than the board...IMHO..

DJ
DavidJohn
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12 Aug 2008 4:45pm
Do yourself a favor and buy a good paddle..ASAP...I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it's such a big deal.

I used to get a lot of shoulder pain and it even sometimes kept me awake at night..I thought that I was just going at it too hard..and for too long..(paddling)

I thought it's something that will go away..eventually..but it never did (about two years of paddling almost every day).

Then after trying the carbon Naish, GSI, Starboard, South Point carbon and the C4 and Werner I bought my KIALOA paddle from SHQ..I guess it was a bit of a gamble.

I'd heard rave reviews from those who use them..These are guys that do the Hawaiian island crossings (about 30 miles).

I had also heard that the Kialoa is one of the lightest, thinest and flexiest shafts..Yet when I first used it it felt pretty stiff..but it has a springy..lively feel.

Since getting my new Kialoa paddle I've had no shoulder pain at all...So I'm a happy chappy.. ..I even went back and bought a second I liked it that much.

Note that almost any good carbon paddle might have fixed my shoulder pain because before it I used stiff and heavy home made alloy paddles.

These cheap alloy paddles are great for getting you on the water in the begining..and for those who can't afford carbon.

One more thing that I like about the Kialoa is that it has a very ovalized/rectangular shape near the center of the shaft then goes round towards each end.

Naish have an interesting paddle coming that is more aimed at surf use..It's shorter and wider in the blade shape..It's also a dovetail or V shaped design.

Kialoa also have a new paddle coming (press release next month) that's a little smaller that the Shaka Pu'u..It also looks very interesting.

Then there's Werner...Werner are renowned for being the best paddle makers in the world..but mostly to do with canoes and kayaks.

There's heaps out there now and it's amazing how different they all feel...and it's about the 'feel'.

DJ

GregW
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12 Aug 2008 6:25pm
As DJ has said, the difference is huge. Both between cheap aluminium and carbon paddles, and between the different carbon paddles.

There's also the issue of what length paddle you want.

Carbon paddles are much lighter, much stiffer and have a much faster flex response than aluminium paddles. As you move through each kind of paddle the feel is that the better paddle is more lively, faster and easier to use.

Some of the high end paddles have shaped shafts that feel very much more comfortable to use and some have different shaped blades that have different effects.

Lively means it flexes a bit but then rebounds and gives the energy back in your paddle stroke. Aluminium paddles flex but they don't rebound and feel quite dead and sluggish. I have a carbon paddle that is quite inert. It works very well but it doesn't flex much and does not have that lively feel.

Good paddles cost about $500.

If you can it would be best to borrow an adjustable paddle and try it for a few weeks until you work out the paddle length you like. In flat water people like long paddles and in the surf a bit shorter is the go.

Alternatively you can get a long paddle and tape the handle on and just cut it down a bit at a time until you are happy. Be very careful. An inch or two makes a huge difference.

If you can afford it then you can haggle for a paddle and board deal. Anything carbon will be pretty good. If you get so that you care between different carbon paddles then you'll probably want different paddles for flat water and surf anyway. Don't forget to get a paddle bag. Paddles are long and unweildy and can damage stuff and get damaged when you move them about in the car or garage.
cranky
cranky
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12 Aug 2008 5:37pm
Thanks, Iv'e got the cheap ally and plastic job, the blade area looks much wider on the good paddles and I was wondering how much different they are to paddle. Its still early days for me so I think I will keep my eye out for someone that has one to try.

The first big challenge is to paddle straight, that looks like it going to keep me occupied for sometime.

cheers
GregW
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12 Aug 2008 11:14pm
You will develop techniques that will help you to paddle straight.

Technique aside, straight tracking is also dependent on board design and the fin.

I tired of adjusting the stroke and put on a bigger fin and now my board tracks as strraight as you could ever want.

Don't go changing stuff just yet. You still need to develop the basic skills.

Greenroom
Greenroom
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12 Aug 2008 11:17pm
I gotta say that its kinda like going from standard masts to skinny masts. Once you make the change you will never look back. Oops sorry, Im guessing not everyone windsurfs here, my bad.
Its so worth the extra money. You can last longer on the water with a lighter paddle.
I think its a bit different to buying a paddle compared to buying a board.
Boards are different and vary from length, width and fins. To me a paddle is just a paddle. Get a good carbon paddle, try the length out and slowly cut down to the length you are comfortable with. Ive had my Starboard carbon paddle for 8 months now and have made only 2 cuts. Im still guessing its a tad too long but for now I have just taped the handle in place.
When I change boards, Im not that fussed that I need to change paddles. It still gets me from A to B only its a million times better than an ali paddle
linter
linter
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12 Aug 2008 11:21pm
like everyone's said, the paddle is hugely important. i started off w/ a heavy homemade one, went to a sawyer, then an infinity, and finally a werner. and when i got that werner, i felt about 80% better in terms of on-water confidence. it was weird what a big difference is made.
cranky
cranky
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13 Aug 2008 2:50pm
Thanks for the comments, I'm hangin to try one now.
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