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Brink7
Brink7
NSW
225 posts
NSW, 225 posts
27 Feb 2010 10:53am

I assume plenty of you have been in this situation, so would appreciate any advice. Sorry if this topic is raised by every second person who is new to SUP, but I couldn't find any other posts.

I am only interested in the surfing side of the sport, so I want a small board, but am not sure how small is too small to learn on.

I have been surfing for +25 years, and don't want to buy a board that surfs like a dog, just so I can learn to paddle a bit eaisier. Having said that, I don't want to waste my money on something I can't even stand on.

6 foot, 85kg.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
27 Feb 2010 10:21am
hey mate
It all depends on how long you want your learning curve to be. There are a few good boards under 10ft that are nice and stable and easy to learn on. The best thing to do is hire a few boards and try them out. A little bit of width will be your freind in the early stages.

Jacko
mikeman
mikeman
QLD
692 posts
QLD, 692 posts
27 Feb 2010 10:57am
Yes, its better to get a reasonably sized board, say 10-12' with plenty of width for stability. Learning on a SUP is much the same as on a shortboard start long and come down in size as you get better.

A word of advice, though, it's much better to learn a few things on flatwater first before venturing into waves - like paddle techniques and turning your board. When you are ready to go for a few waves stay away from busy surf spots. There are usually plenty of waves to be found on a SUP where there are no people.

Have fun
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
27 Feb 2010 2:17pm
If you want to start small you could give the Starboard Whopper a demo - it's 10 long and 34 wide.

Wasn't my cuppa but it might fit the bill.
Lobes
Lobes
885 posts
885 posts
27 Feb 2010 11:31am
stay above 9'
daletor
daletor
VIC
301 posts
VIC, 301 posts
27 Feb 2010 2:55pm
Lobes said...

stay above 9'


and..don't go over 10'


wide is good. another one to demo would be the the Starboard 9'33". You will handle it no worries on flat water..... and whether you can graduate to surf you can only find out by demoing.

If you start with an 11 or 12 footer you will grow out of it in half a dozen sessions.

The trick is to do the initial learning on demo and borrowed boards so you can avoid buying something you will grow out of quickly.

I am 86kg and ride a 9X32 and it is an easy ride ( grew out of 11foot and 10foot and wasn't hooked until I got the 9.)

Dale
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
27 Feb 2010 2:29pm
Craig,

You're about the same weight (but a bit taller) as I am and with the about same amount of surfing behind you.

I started on a 10' x 28 x 4 1/4 and found that kind of dimension to be a great blend of size to get started and to keep me going afterwards. It was a great challenge but what good in life comes easy? In fact I rode that board solid for over 3 years in all sorts of conditions.

Saying all of that though, it comes down to you, balance, fitness etc. The best suggestion above is demo some boards, try the sizes the cheap or even free way and find something that feels and looks good to you.

25 years of surfing is a lot of time looking at surfboard design, make sure you see the things you should see on any good surfboard before you spend your money. Bottom contour (concaves, vee's etc) Hard edges on the tail, good rocker and rails, you know how important they are and don't accept anything less. Check any of the good SUP surf boards and they are all designed by 'surfboard' shapers.

If you can surf, you can turn any size board with those things built into them.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
27 Feb 2010 2:31pm
get a 10' er i reckon.that first month or so is important. sure you will probably wont to go shorter sooner than later. buy a second hand one if you can get a hold of one. when you are done sell it or trade it, 10' ers sell like hot cakes so you will not lose to much and will be primed and have more of an idea of what to look for when you demo for a newie. i tell that to everyone that asks me
cheers

WorlSUP
WorlSUP
NSW
83 posts
NSW, 83 posts
27 Feb 2010 3:37pm
I was in a similar situation (although I'm a little shorter 5'9" & heavier ~90kg). I've got a bit of a surfing background (long & short board over quite a few years, although never that good). I wanted something that I could paddle fairly easy & be able to stay upright but would still surf ok. I demo'd quite a few from 12' Starboard Big Easy, some drops, Oxbow down to the 9'4" Jimmy Lewis. I ended up going with the Starboard 9'8" x 30" element & I'm pretty stoked with it.

I've had it a week & a half & have been out on it every day since (except for one). A spent a lot of time in Newy harbour, across to Stockton to get some small waves there, went out at Nobby's after 3 days but had a shocker. Then spent some more time in the harbour & stockton (it's a little more protected from the Southerly's & SE's) and once in the Lake. Went out again at Nobby's this morning, quite messy, still falling off heaps but ended up getting a few good waves.

Anyway I've found the board at 30" to be quite stable (especially in the side chop I had at Nobby's this morning), once on a wave though it flies down the line & turns well (still working out fin size & placement). On flat water it cruises very well for it's length & it fit's inside my car (an old subaru sportwagon) so I can take it to work & leave it in the car (it's got a vent plug as well). I've got the Tufskin EVA Camo version, the full deck grip is nice & it's easy on the feet (and knees being a SUP newbie)

I don't have lot of SUP experience, this is just my feedback based on what I've tried to date. I would certainly recommend you give the Starboard Element a demo (where are you located, welcome to try mine?). Here's a link to the board Spec's:
http://www.star-board-sup.com/2010/products/boards/board_element.php

(I'm not affiliated with Starboard, I just like the product & found the Element a great solution for my needs at the moment!)
kitesurfbali
kitesurfbali
WA
531 posts
WA, 531 posts
27 Feb 2010 1:00pm
Hello there,
as most of the people I started with big board and I'm now down to a 9'0 x 27 3/4 with 110 Liters volume.
I'm only 72 kilos and I feel that this is the smaller I would go.
My suggestion is to try to rent boards for 5-6 times so that you work down the size.
Or to buy something second hand and quite cheap with about 135 liters of volume around 10'0 size and at least 29 wide.
Bye Jankie
dtm
dtm
NSW
1610 posts
dtm dtm
NSW, 1610 posts
27 Feb 2010 4:04pm
i am only 74kgs and learnt on a 9 '3" psh ripper i found was very hard for the first 3 weeks, but i have surfed on a shortboard all my life and thought would rather have a board i can surf on than a stable log that surfs like an oversize mal which i would grow out of in a matter of weeks. Its hard going at the start on a short sup but if you give it time you will get it. Now for the last 3 months ive upgraded to an custom 8'8" sup for the surfing side of things and sold the psh .
I would think something around 10foot for you to start on as you are a bit bigger than me but as jacko said test a few out first
Brink7
Brink7
NSW
225 posts
NSW, 225 posts
27 Feb 2010 5:58pm
OK - Thanks for your advice so far! There seems to be a familiar theme from the majority of you, so I will keep it in mind while looking for a board.

A couple of hours ago, I had my first attempt at riding on a SUP. My mate loaned me his 10' Force. (not sure how wide)

I spent half hour on the bay, and felt reasonably comfortable paddeling around on it from the start. It was a lot more strenuous than I expected though! Damn good exercise - especially paddleing into the 15kts breeze. (felt like paddleing up hill!) When I turned around and came down wind, it was a lot more enjoyable, but I think I will need some waves to maintain my interest in SUP. Just slogging it out on the bay felt like jogging. Great exercise, but a bit boring.

I will definately not buy a board bigger than 10', as this thing felt massive, and plenty stable enough! I will take all your advice and try to get my hands on something in the 9' range for a try before I buy anything.
colas
colas
5388 posts
5388 posts
27 Feb 2010 8:19pm
I am 100kg and started 8 months ago with a 8'11" (actually, started with a 7'6" Sealion but didnt go anywhere).

You can definitely start with a 9' board, *IF* you plan to use it only in glassy conditions (If there 15knts chop I fall as soon as I stop paddling), and if the board is wide enough, and has a stable shape (not all shapers master how to make boards both lively and stable). I went paddling on the flat or micro waves for one month each morning before attempting waves. My board is the fabulous Drops Vulcan, www.gong-galaxy.com/magazine/pics/1-hour-4-boards/
Try to find a good construction, solid and light, beware of the prestigious brands where you actually buy a low-quality china pop-up heavy and floppy with a famous sticker on it.

Note that I ordered now a bigger board (9'11") to use with chop and to go to our "outer reefs". Do not go too small fi you have any chop where you surf.

My advice would be to get a big (wide especially) board, but one with enough performance that you will want to keep it for small waves (or choppy conditions) once you you buy a shorter "shortboard feel" SUP. Do not buy a heavy tank.
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