paul.j said...
Nice strong team!! They should be happy with silver!!

Who else is on the NZ team, or hasn't it been announced yet? Annabelle?

paul.j said...
Nice strong team!! They should be happy with silver!!

Flame suit on Jacko....

paul.j said...

Piros said...

paul.j said...
Nice strong team!! They should be happy with silver!!

Flame suit on Jacko....

Haha that's right and soon it might be made of gold!!! Lol

Its not a sheep shagging ( i mean shearing) contest mate

rahams said...

JonesySUP said...

dudley78 said...
Had to look up who Lincoln Dews was. Would love to know what results he has to quantify his selection as a prone paddleboarder.

Regarding Lincoln, his inclusion would be around filling a spot in the sup if Kelly or Jamie got sick or injured.
Dont worry, the kid has got a big tick'a and will smash anyone from around the world on a prone.
It makes perfect sense to me!

PS I do feel sorry for Jackson Close:-(

if jackson was able to go and got knocked back
this system is wrong!!!

Well it's all a load of rubbish with the covering for sick injuried you don't pick a team on that . Surfing Australia should be ashamed. A specialist current prone paddler should be chosen on merit. The US team did this SUP on a prone and it failed.
It's a kick in the guts for the top prone paddlers that were not even spoke to or considered like Daniel shade (on man to beat Gauly in 2012) zeb welsh (2nd stock Molokai 2012) Tim Foran (5th unl Molokai 2012) and team members from last year
Lincoln has not paddled a major race for 2 years and has no results ever. It's only a profile enhancer for him he'll be back on a SUP that arvo.

This decision by surfing Australia has set a precedence that is wrong. They have even put the team captain in a position where he is having to try and keep the peace behind the seen and verify the selections to guys that have been deprived of representing their country. I know Not all the team is happy with the decision.
Pick on merit not on politics or mates

Adapt said...

Maso81 said...

rahams said...

JonesySUP said...

dudley78 said...
Had to look up who Lincoln Dews was. Would love to know what results he has to quantify his selection as a prone paddleboarder.

Regarding Lincoln, his inclusion would be around filling a spot in the sup if Kelly or Jamie got sick or injured.
Dont worry, the kid has got a big tick'a and will smash anyone from around the world on a prone.
It makes perfect sense to me!

PS I do feel sorry for Jackson Close:-(

if jackson was able to go and got knocked back
this system is wrong!!!

Well it's all a load of rubbish with the covering for sick injuried you don't pick a team on that . Surfing Australia should be ashamed. A specialist current prone paddler should be chosen on merit. The US team did this SUP on a prone and it failed.
It's a kick in the guts for the top prone paddlers that were not even spoke to or considered like Daniel shade (on man to beat Gauly in 2012) zeb welsh (2nd stock Molokai 2012) Tim Foran (5th unl Molokai 2012) and team members from last year
Lincoln has not paddled a major race for 2 years and has no results ever. It's only a profile enhancer for him he'll be back on a SUP that arvo.

This decision by surfing Australia has set a precedence that is wrong. They have even put the team captain in a position where he is having to try and keep the peace behind the seen and verify the selections to guys that have been deprived of representing their country. I know Not all the team is happy with the decision.
Pick on merit not on politics or mates

Welcome to surf sport politics

Why was lincolns name even mentioned on a prone let alone short listed. Surfing Australia has a lot to answer for.

pmorgan1974 said...

teatrea said...
At the end of the day how many prone paddlers are their too choose from , and he is young and guys like him are the future of the sport , why not give them the experience.

I would say there are crap loads to choose from. Non come better than Gauly, and good luck to Lincoln and everyone representing.

well 'teatrea' thats the opinion of someone that doesn't have any idea about paddling. There is probably 10 guys that should of been considered and have been deprived the chance to represent their country due to politics. If they were choosing a team that could cross over then why would they have not chosen karla Gilbert instead of Angie to cover Jordan? Its a total cop out.

I'll give you a quick example of crap loads (not a go at you Teatrea just an example). I got 4th in Molokai this year but I coach a paddler who just last week got 2nd in the world clubby titles. 3 weeks ago this young kid toweled me up in a 4.5km flat water race by 3mins. Flat water is definitely not my speciality (I hate it actually) but I could rattle off 40-50 guys that would do the same to Lincoln. Surfing Oz just needs to look outside the square a little. Not much more needs really to be said about this topic.

I can't really see what the selection of prone paddlers has to do with the SUP fraternity. We have the same situation here where our SUP association is being asked to recommend prone paddlers for ISA worlds - because ISA has declared it a Team event consisting of Prone and SUP.

Prone and SUP are two different disciplines and as much as I think they should both attend ISA Worlds I don't understand why it must be co-joined in a Team event?

Surely Prone can come and have their disciplines alongside SUP - but without making it a Team event. This would also mean that SUP would not get involved with Prone selection - they would have to do it themselves.

I think ISA is making a huge mistake linking the two disciplines into a Team event, firstly because there is absolutely no history of doing so (SUP is new and Prone has always, and mostly been, a short-course lifesaving discipline, at least here in South Africa) secondly, because SUP has a much better appeal to a number of nations without a life-saving tradition (ie Europe and all landlocked countries) which means all these new SUP countries will never ever feature in a Team competition because the simply don't have/know of the proning component of the Team event.

This means the Team event will always be fought out between the same 5-10 nations which is non-sensical if SUP Worlds manages to attract 30-50+ SUP nations.

Let the Proners come and do Worlds but do not include it as a Team event - it doesn't make sense.

Oh, and choosing paddlers on a wild-card basis is recipe for politicking - keep it straight and simple (kiss) - use your official rankings......

PeterP makes a lot sense here. Prone has as much to do with SUP as it does with short boarding. Why not make it part of a short board teams event? [}:)]

As far as the Wildcards in the SUP divisions go, the Surfing Australia argument runs along the lines that they receive funding from the Australian Government and they are expected to post results in the form of gold medals. In their opinion, sending Jamie Mitchell and Justin Holland instead of the second ranked performers at nationals provides a better chance of securing gold medals. It is of course debatable whether the likes of Beau O'Brian or Jackson Close could win gold anyway, they probably could. Nonetheless, Surfing Australia is backing in the guys they've chosen to get the job done.

If there's a precedent here, then I guess it is that you have to ensure you are the best performer overall at nationals, not the second best, in order to get to Peru.

ChrisClarke1 said...
Agree with the others, how do they choose this? All the guys in the sup surf final absolutely ripped it apart, what about the other 3 guys in the final?

Apart from that, the whole team looks great, very strong indeed!

Hey all, it wasn't that I wasn't chosen for the isa team. They contacted me and tried to convince me to go, but suping doesn't pay the bills or run my business when I am away, with all the other races I am trying to attend next year I have to pick and choose which races I can afford to do.q

They do this to every group they represent for australian selection. They have been pissing off people near the top of there specialty for years. Never seems to be 100% fair and a lot of people lose interest ,which is a shame , there are alot of legends of the waves out there in Australia that should have donned the colours, not been ripped off by management/selectors/ sponsors. Not saying this team isnt worthy of selection, hope your all winners there.

teatrea said...
your all going on about Lincons selection what about Jamie Mitchells? Crap loads of prone paddlers , how many is that.?

without an exact number, it means loads. The likes of Gauly don't get selected because of lack of choice, it's because they are at the top of their game. That needs to be made very clear..

Casso said...
Solid team with great results assured ... but why didn't they choose the team based on the Aussie Titles?

Why were the 2 best prone specialist available not chosen in the Aussie team! As far as i know it's not a development squad!

OG SUP said...

laceys lane said...
based on the idea team members could cross over disciplines to cover in case something happens, its a very good team. jamie cross over- surfing, prone paddle. kelly cross over - prone board ,surfing.lincoln- sup racing, surfing. jordon mercer- sup racing. sharika- sup racing, prone paddle board. angie surfing(yep angie surfs pretty good). justin holland cross over- sup racing, he's done molaki and had some reasonable results


pretty handy all round team

Hey Mr Lacey, your theory is great however I was told the other day that you simply cant change disciplines. Sign up as a SUP surfer and you can only surf the racers can only race they don't allow any overlap! Maybe someone else can shed some light on this point?

Phill

Yes that was what Kai Lenny said. He wants to surf AND race at ISA Peru but his understanding is he is not allowed to do that.

Tastes a bit like sour grapes on here??!