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Scotty88
Scotty88
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26 Apr 2011 4:08pm
Any tips ?
I am looking to upgrade to a larger paddle say 9&1/2" wide blade. I am 6'2" and 130kg and find I am pulling my current paddle with ease. I just wonder if I go the larger blade will this slow my rate down or will it help to increase my speed ( or both). I will be using it on flat water only. I am knew to sup and would appreciate some advice from the more experienced.

Cheers
Downwinder
Downwinder
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26 Apr 2011 7:00pm
Scotty88 said...

Any tips ?
I am looking to upgrade to a larger paddle say 9&1/2" wide blade. I am 6'2" and 130kg and find I am pulling my current paddle with ease. I just wonder if I go the larger blade will this slow my rate down or will it help to increase my speed ( or both). I will be using it on flat water only. I am knew to sup and would appreciate some advice from the more experienced.

Cheers

G'day Scotty88
I'm 6'0ft & 90kg I use the qb Elite racer with the BIG 10'' inch head and a 90'' inch shaft = 18''inch above the head I love this blade I have three of them. Always best to keep a spare! Most people like a 13'' - 15''inches shaft above the head. These blades are custom built by Jim Terrell the owner of qb ( Jim Terrell is an Olympic Kayak Weapon ) There are only around four of us on the planet that use a 10'' inch head! Everyone else on the planet prefers the 8 ¾ inch head I know C4 make a 9'' inch head.
Scotty88 if you want one in a hurry I have a qb with the BIG 10''inch head 88''inch shaft for sale only $300 or you can get one of Jim Terrell for around $600 but the Aussie dollar is up around $1.07c US STOKED

Ali Cat
Ali Cat
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26 Apr 2011 7:14pm
Hi Scotty88, I noticed quickblade posted some pics of their new Dave Kalama signature paddle on facebook just today. It's 120sq inches in area, so I'm guessing this might be the same size as Downwinders' (or slightly smaller?) as the 9 inch blade has an area of 110sq inches.
I dont use a blade that big but regardless, the qb elite racer is definately the way to go for a lightweight high performance paddle, just pick the size that suits you best.
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
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26 Apr 2011 8:02pm
www.davidkalama.com/2011/01/tempo/

Have you read this article?
Dave says (and more);
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If you're more of a cardio type person you should lean more towards a Tahitian style stroke since the rate is higher and will require more cardio endurance, thus playing right into your strength. If you're a bigger stronger guy perhaps you might slow your stroke down and take advantage of your strength by powering your paddle a little deeper. Whatever you favor naturally I highly recommend mastering both techniques as they both use slightly different muscle groups, which allows for less fatigue because of load sharing throughout the body.
Aloha,
Dave
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Scotty88 - I'm tipping you're a pretty powerful bloke, big on power, lower on cadio endurance? So the big blades should suit, as mentioned above by Downwinder & Ali.
Downwinder
Downwinder
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26 Apr 2011 10:08pm
I like the BIG Aussie stoke for glide and the Tahitian stoke for when I'm about to catch a runner, then the BIG Aussie stroke to stay in the trough.
In the flat I average 246 strokes per 1,000 metres in 6:20 minutes = a good 4 metre glide per stroke. I can't go any faster than that Without sports enhancing drugs And blokes are smashing that time by 50/100 metres ( The department of youth they have the power )
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
26 Apr 2011 9:01pm
Hi DW - thats good going on the flats = 9.47km/h - how many km's can you keep that up? Gonna try and see if we can get to that speed - but back to topic, I use the Naish 9'5inch blade which is the biggest they make and I enjoy it except if I'm going into the wind or haven't recovered from previous paddles. Downwind it's a must, on the flat also first choice, except as stated before. Those QB's sound like they are the ticket.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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26 Apr 2011 11:33pm
My shoulders and joints are starting to hurt just reading this thread..

DJ
Downwinder
Downwinder
QLD
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27 Apr 2011 7:58am
PeterP said...

Hi DW - thats good going on the flats = 9.47km/h - how many km's can you keep that up? Gonna try and see if we can get to that speed - but back to topic, I use the Naish 9'5inch blade which is the biggest they make and I enjoy it except if I'm going into the wind or haven't recovered from previous paddles. Downwind it's a must, on the flat also first choice, except as stated before. Those QB's sound like they are the ticket.


G'day PeterP
I have a SIC f18 its 18'6'' weighing 17.5kg I beleive they are the best flatwater board on the planet. there was no surf on the Gold Coast last week so jumped in the canal to burn some calories. there's this great 11km circuit. I did 28k in 184 minutes. A weapon would smash that time by 10/15 minutes. I love my f18 the glide is unreal.
Have you been surfing Jbay lately I surfed it in 1994 stayed at Vans Place. That Black ale beer is heavy s##t 7% I drank plenty of it.
Minkee
Minkee
QLD
225 posts
QLD, 225 posts
27 Apr 2011 8:20am
What's your 11km circuit DW?
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
27 Apr 2011 5:54pm
Cheers to Downwinder, Ali Cat & Simondo for your responses. Most helpful. I came across Quickblades faq's on their website for a table for paddle selection based on height,weight,uses,etc.
Thanks Downwinder for the offer of the 10" blade. I will give it some serious thought over next few days and let you know either way via email.
Yes Simondo, you are correct with your tip. At 130kg's I am relying on my strength to paddle and I am lacking the cardio which should improve over time. I snapped a few oars rowing surf boats at Bronte many years ago including an aluminum oar.
Downwinder do you think the 10" will be suitable for still water with no wind ? Or will I need a good downwind ?
Cheers Todd
Simondo
Simondo
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8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
27 Apr 2011 8:31pm
I think 10 would be fine for you in the flats. If you can afford to get a 9 also, it might be handy for surf, testing, back-up, faster tempo training... Etc.

Read some more on Dave's site... You will notice that peak power is infront of the toes... Once you get the paddle past your toes, it is actually pretty much time to rip it out of the water. Break the wrists to help pop it out of the water and cut the blade through the air. As Dave says... Reach, damn it, reach! Timing, balance, skill and experience come into play when you are at full reach, loading up with power. I think Woogie explains it as reach, lock, power.... Happens fast though...

What board(s) are you teaming this paddle up with?!!
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
27 Apr 2011 7:05pm
I am on a Laird Coastrunner 14 ft. I love the stability of this board as it allows me to paddle hard without spending time in the drink.
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
28 Apr 2011 12:33am
surfed j-bay point a good couple of times on the SUP - outstanding! Your ave speed on the circuit is 9.1km/h for 28km! I can on occasion average that speed on our 1.9km circuit - but I'm using a 14ft Javelin so maybe the shorter board is the restriction. Still can't work out if I'm quicker with the big blade 9'5" or the smaller 8" so tend to stick with the big one for the workout.
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