How does the new Jav go into wind/chop and across it?

That would have to be one of the best vids yet showing why the new DW boards have adopted that shaped nose. The nose spent nearly as much time piercing the water as it did above the water. The flow of water from the nose across the deck looks so smooth and not affecting the speed, direction or stability. Thanks DJ.

Well done, Naish could use that footage for future sales.
I had my 14' x 28" Jav LE out last night for the first time on the river.
Can't believe how stable the board is & with speed.
There was quite a bit of chop & it sliced, like a hot knife through butter.
I was playing around with planing the board.
Would you say having the nose slightly above the water line is the go for gaining as much speed as possible?
When positioned beyond the hand held section, love seeing the water peeling off the nose with ease.
Ocean next, bring it on :-)
p.s I feel the need for speed!!

Hey Paul J, it's early days mate. Playing with the board at this stage I would say.

Spoken like a true Fanatic team rider & a very good one at that :-)

By the way yes i have ridden the board!!

paul.j said..
OK i'm not here to bash Naish or anything or say this board is not working but how is what DJ's board doing any good? If the nose is under the water how do you have control of the board, i see DJ fighting to keep it straight alot of the time and think he looks way more in control on his old Naish. When you are riding bumps like those you want to be surfing the bumps not always trying to fight your nose going underwater. I'm not saying it cant work but going fast in the bumps is not about running into the bump in front and having your nose under water it's about going over bumps.

Here is a vid of me on my Fanatic as a example, yes my nose does go under but watch how fast it comes back up and how it wants to go over bumps not through bumps! I'm sure the Naish board is good and goes really fast in the right conditions i just feel for a DW board it does not seem like its working that well.

Love that vid Paul.. It's awesome and one of the best I've seen... But it is a little bit like comparing apples with oranges IMO..

You're so much younger.. So much fitter and stronger.. Sooo much lighter.. and a world class athlete on a much lighter and narrower board.. and in very different conditions.. With the biggest difference being that you are waaaay more talented than me on a sup board..

I'm not making excuses.. Just saying.. This is very early days for me and this board.. It takes time to get to know a board and how a board is going to react.. Knowing when to move and when there is no need to.. and learning where it's sweet spots are.. This was my first ever paddle in any real wind and even then it was very up and down making finding and catching runners hard work.. Can't wait to get more time on this new board.. and can't wait to get it out in very strong winds and better waves.. I was deliberately pearling the nose at times to see if it does the big old-Starboard and new-Fanatic boof.. (Not that there's anything wrong with the boof) .. There's no doubt the new a Fanatics are awesome boards..

It's very interesting seen how these boards are evolving.. It will be interesting to see if a Fanatic follows in this new design.. It's nice to see that the new 2015 Fanatics have lost some of the huge boubous nose.. What's next.. Sharper rails towards the nose..

Comparing these major SUP brands like Naish.. Starboard.. and Fanatic is a bit like comparing BMW.. Mercedes.. and Audi.. These no right or wrong.. good or bad.. Just different.. It'd be a borring place if everything was the same..

I agree with Jacko, the new board looks hard work in those bumps

Thanks Paul.. I had to drop my iPad and drive my daughter somewhere before I had finished.. I remember chatting with Randy (Robby's brother) once and he thought the old Jav was the best and fastest DW board.. You were very fast on that board back then.. The problem for most of us is that it didn't have enough stability.. Not enough tail rocker.. and too soft in the rails in the rear.. Well it seems like they fixed all those thing with this new Jav.. Maybe it is more a flat water board that will also work quite well on downwinders.. But having that extra speed along with more stability is a very nice thing.. I do have to move more to make this board work but no more than last years Glide.. As far as looking smoother.. and more comfortable.. I'm actually more comfortable on the original v1 and v2 Glides.. Very comfee.. but not very fast when you're not catching bumps..

Area10 said..
How does the new Jav go into wind/chop and across it?

A10 it didn't seem to be effected by side chop or side winds.. but it's still early days.. It paddles into the wind better than most boards IMO.

Maxeeboy said..

Well done, Naish could use that footage for future sales.
I had my 14' x 28" Jav LE out last night for the first time on the river.
Can't believe how stable the board is & with speed.
There was quite a bit of chop & it sliced, like a hot knife through butter.
I was playing around with planing the board.
Would you say having the nose slightly above the water line is the go for gaining as much speed as possible?
When positioned beyond the hand held section, love seeing the water peeling off the nose with ease.
Ocean next, bring it on :-)
p.s I feel the need for speed!!

I agree.. It is nice to see a quiet and splash free nose slicing through the water.. and without and feeling of pushing water or slowing down..

btw.. I'm sure many think my vids are some kind of Naish promo or advertising.. The fact is that I just like to sup.. and taking photo's and filming and making vids.. and I just so happen to like and buy Naish boards..

I used to do the same with my motorbike.. and yet people don't think that I'm promoting or advertising for BMW.. .. It's just what I happen to ride..

Yes it is very early days.. Still sussing the board out.. If after a few weeks/months if I'm not happy with it I'll sell it and buy another 29" wide Glide.. I loved that board.. I'm really liking this new board so far..

Agree, Look at the stars,
Look how they shine for you,
And everything you do,
Yeah, they were all yellow.

I thought Jacko would've got a million red thumbs - he seems to for no reason in all the other threads.

It was DJ's videos that first got me interested in downwinding... the enthusiasm for the sport is something that I can't help admire and personally I don't care if he pimps Naish or any other brands - it's all good and I appreciate the effort.

Having no nose rocker in those really short wave lengths on the bay - it seems there's no choice but to bury the nose, particularly in low wind where you need to get lower on the runner to stay with it, so a thin piercing nose/easy release nose is probably just the ticket. For ocean downwinding, I used to be amazed at how often I'd bury the 2013 glide nose, which had a fair bit of rocker. When I say bury, I mean like 4 or 6 inches under - mostly due to lack of skill. The 2014 glide is flatter, and would be worse, except it is faster - so you can sit higher on the runner and keep the nose out of the water and surf a bit more. Which suits me just fine. I get the impression that this new Jav would be very similar in that - in which case the fancy nose would be wasted a bit? Not sure - it would be good to see.

DavidJohn said..

moyzie said..
ohh Hey Mate !!!!
That's a great vid of how the nose works
and looks like a descent group too

Thanks moyzie.. I hope to get some better vids soon.. and it is a good group.. There'd be so many more if it was a w/e day..

Thanks DJ it's this is guy that emailed you on Vimeo about the Nalu video