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sunnySUP
sunnySUP
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
29 Dec 2008 1:16pm
Hello,
I'm new to SUP and can't wait to get a board, and am looking to get in at a budget, and I'm also finding 2nd hand gear scarce.
Whilst happily SUP shopping I found this on Ebay :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-M8R8-EPOXY-Surfboards-1010-Standup-Paddle-Board_W0QQitemZ260269028959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Sport_Surfing?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

What do you more experience sup folk think of these "no name" sort of boards? Its about the size Im looking for. And it's the right price. The ebay seller seems genuine and were helpful with questions. I want the board for mostly flat water paddling (with dog on board) and very small surf around the river mouths.
Any advice would be appreciated !!
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
SA, 2060 posts
29 Dec 2008 5:07pm
Hey,
I do not know anyone thats ridden one but hey, for the price and for your first board, looks ok. Not sure how much you weigh and how big you dog is? As long as you have taken that all into consideration, I'd say go for it.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5126 posts
VIC, 5126 posts
29 Dec 2008 10:05pm
Have a click around here:

http://www.vecsurfboards.com/home/home.html

and here

www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=vec+sup+paddle+board&meta=

$799 plus about $60 for delivery is pretty cheap. Add $200 for deck grip and a few hundred for a paddle. You can use wax if you want ... but it sucks.

I think NSP are the cheapest SUPS from stores at around $1500 including grip and a paddle.
bownes
bownes
122 posts
122 posts
30 Dec 2008 4:43am
Hi Sunny,

These boards do seem cheap but then they really are a no name board and if its not a good shape you will out grow it real fast leaving you with a board that may be hard to sell.
I would suggest the 30 day warranty is not good enough. I recently bought an epoxy board which after 3 months started to delaminate.
I contacted the company and it was a sh!t fight to get a replacement and took 7 months to get resolved but finally they did the right thing and sent a replacement. I wont name the company but it was one of the leaders in the industry. I suggest you get a warranty of 12 months at least.
As always buyer beware.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
30 Dec 2008 6:51am
Just remember, you tend to get what you pay for.
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
VIC
1722 posts
VIC, 1722 posts
30 Dec 2008 10:11am
It looks similar to what I started on except mine was a 10'6", with thruster setup and deckpad and was bought from Trigger Brothers in Melbourne. They import a basic range of SUPs from China for people just like you (and me originally) to sell alongside the other name brands. However this board is priced way cheaper.

The strength of mine was amazing with no problems what so ever but it turned similar to the titanic. Again buyer beware but could be a good board to get you on the water and then on sell to a friend who wants to get into it.

Goodluck.
Bren

p.s. Also looks like it has a breather which is good and a mate bought a 9' Mal from this seller and it looks and rides like a great board. I'm always one to back the local retailer though and warranty through a authorised SUP retail outlet will be better.
sunnySUP
sunnySUP
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
30 Dec 2008 9:48am
Hey, Thanks for the advice guys !!
I'm thinking the board could really suit me, beginner 65kg (add dog 24kg on the flat water) and it should float us no probs. And seeing how scarce 2nd hand sups are I should have no probs selling it in six months if I dont end up liking it.

I know I should support local retailers, but they are TWICE the price for something similar???
Looks like they will get to sell me a paddle and deck grip, unless anyone can tell me where these items are half price on the net!!!
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
30 Dec 2008 11:53am
If you're after a cheap board you'd be better off with the new 11' NSP.

See here.. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38087

It's only a little more money but there's no postage costs and it comes with full deck grip, leggie and paddle..and resale would be much better.

Just my two cents worth.

DJ
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
30 Dec 2008 12:02pm
I'm totally in agreement with DJ - hard to go past the NSP if you are looking at spending nearer $1000 to $2000. Very stable board for flatwater and small surf and light to carry and load. If you shop around you will be up for about $1500 complete with paddle. The other option if you wanna get into a higher end board that may last you a lot longer is to try to get hold of a s/h Naish or similar. Yeah it's hard to get s/h but maybe try roar industries for some advice on that. Good luck and welcome to the fray - it'll change your life !!
AA
AA
NSW
2167 posts
AA AA
NSW, 2167 posts
30 Dec 2008 4:31pm
Resale! Resale! Resale!
Whatever you put into this board SunnySUP you are more likely to get a chunk of it back when you sell it if it is a recognised brand. If you go through a local retailer or school you may also get to try it along with a couple of other boards. They will throw in plenty of free advice and you also get the warm fuzzy feeling of supporting the OZ industry!

As the sport grows it will be the local schools and retailers who put on demo days and social events!

Andrew.A
NewcastleSUP
NewcastleSUP
NSW
250 posts
NSW, 250 posts
30 Dec 2008 7:36pm
Yeah gotta agree with AA & JB on this one. Lost counts amount of people wanting to trade their cheap tanker in for something more refined and reliable but like JB said you get what you pay for....
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
30 Dec 2008 5:57pm
NewcastleSUP said...

Lost counts amount of people wanting to trade their cheap tanker



Should point some of those people wanting to unload cheap sup tankers to sunny - it would be better for him to start on paddling one of them rather than a windsurfing board.
sunnySUP
sunnySUP
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
30 Dec 2008 7:03pm
Hey, Now you guys have really confused me! But luckily I know where your all coming from, Ive been into mountainbiking for so long now and wouldn't advise anyone to get a crap entry level MTB, even when they start out. Its all about enhancing the experience.

Ive almost been convinced on Naish 11 6 - or the NSP 11 as a cheap alternative.

What would be the difference on resale between these two boards?

Ive heard the Naish are really light, which is good for girly handling onto roof rack
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
30 Dec 2008 6:15pm
sunnySUP said...

What would be the difference on resale between these two boards?


As you said previously "I'm also finding 2nd hand gear scarce."

The difference is what you would get for each board on a particular day. I think I saw a second hand wood 11'6" Naish for about $1,000 with deck grip for sale recently. Maybe you should get one of these - if you are planning on selling it down the track.

Here's a starboard for sale, great flat water paddler: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45361
sunnySUP
sunnySUP
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
30 Dec 2008 10:34pm
No, Im not Planning on selling it down the track, I guess that just happens...?
I'm planning on enjoying the fab waterways we have here on the awesome Sunny Coast whilst getting a great cross training workout (sup will be my 2nd sport) and also a suntan! Im not a surfer, Im not keen on surf over 2 ft, it scares me ! So its flat water and river mouth or beach surf when conditions are real light on. Oh, yeah and the Border collie comes for a ride sometimes too.
Scotty Mac
Scotty Mac
SA
2060 posts
SA, 2060 posts
31 Dec 2008 6:49pm
Hey Sunny,
What you need to understand is that there are some industry people on his forum (JB and AA for example) and we all appreciate there input and the forum would not be as good without them. In saying that obviously there opinion is a bit bias. What JB is saying about paying for what you get is totally true to a point (depending on how high performance you want) and what AA said about resale has a lot of merit. So you need to guess how much it will be second hand. I guess about half the new price. Compare this to how much the second hand boards are selling for like the naish, starboard etc. After taking that all into account, work out the value for money and make your own decision. To me after all that if there are not many boards around second hand, its still sounds like an ok deal to me.

Nothing in this world is truely black and white. Try and work out how dark of grey it is.......
Regards,
Scotty
Supsurfaust
Supsurfaust
WA
83 posts
WA, 83 posts
31 Dec 2008 10:16pm
Well said Scotty.

Courts
hedley101
hedley101
QLD
15 posts
QLD, 15 posts
1 Jan 2009 2:17pm
Hi SunnySUP,

I just bought a NSP 11' a few weeks ago and I also live on the Sunny Coast. I picked it up from Beachbeat at Caloundra for $1350 with leash, full grip and traded in an old short board for the price of the paddle and cover $365. This board is great for a newbie like myself to get into the sport and I paddle with my 2 year old daughter on the front no problems around the Minyama canals and the Mooloolah river. (my wife isn't so sure!) I have taken it out at Buddina beach to catch ankle snappers, Mooloolaba beach is great to learn and get out and even took it down to the suprerbank to get some decent waves.
Mark from Beachbeat explained to me that due to the infancy of the sport in Australia and the lack of second hand boards on the market if I did want to trade up to a more higher performance board keeping the NSP in good nick I should get good resale.
But at the moment I am just stoked to be out there on the water even when the surf is flat which is a lot on the Sunshine Coast.

Good luck and I might see you out on the water.

Brett
Th0m0
Th0m0
QLD
529 posts
QLD, 529 posts
1 Jan 2009 2:43pm
I'm only brand new to SUPS (approx 1 week), so I don't have a lot of experience or other boards to compare. But a few people here have recommended the 11' NSP and thats what I ended up buying too. I did a bit of research, read a few reviews, talked to my local surfshop owner and the NSP stood out as the best all round, beginner, do a bit of everything board for the price. My experience with the board has been very good. I'm about 88kg at 5'6", 43 years old with a longboard surfing background. The board is extremely stable in calm water. I can put my 9 y/o daughter on with me no problem. I can even add my 8 y/o son as well (but thats more challenging). That probably adds up to about 130kg all up. Despite its size the board is very light and easy to carry with the built in hand hold. I don't find it easy to paddle into the wind on it but that could be my inexperience. I also paid $1350 for it and traded in a surfboard which paid for a paddle & cover. I'm still learning in the surf but I have it on good authority that its a competent surfer in small waves. Hope that helps.

Cheers
Th0m0
NewcastleSUP
NewcastleSUP
NSW
250 posts
NSW, 250 posts
1 Jan 2009 7:30pm
oliver said...

NewcastleSUP said...

Lost counts amount of people wanting to trade their cheap tanker



Should point some of those people wanting to unload cheap sup tankers to sunny - it would be better for him to start on paddling one of them rather than a windsurfing board.



11'6 Southpoint Timpone + Paddle = $1200
11'6 Laird Epoxy + C4 'Lava' deckgrip = $1200
sunnySUP
sunnySUP
QLD
199 posts
QLD, 199 posts
1 Jan 2009 8:42pm
Having said 2nd hand boards are scarce, just so happens a beautiful Naish 11 6 just popped up on ebay , JUST down the road from me, and the deal is DONE ! Great big bouyant learner board for less than half new price.
Im wrapped !
Now I just have to figure out paddle resizing!
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
2 Jan 2009 12:34am
sunnySUP said...

Having said 2nd hand boards are scarce, just so happens a beautiful Naish 11 6 just popped up on ebay , JUST down the road from me, and the deal is DONE ! Great big bouyant learner board for less than half new price.
Im wrapped !
Now I just have to figure out paddle resizing!


Perfect.. ..Congrats.

DJ

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