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CMC
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18 May 2010 2:06pm
Not sure if this has been posted here or not but it's a great video.


mikeman
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18 May 2010 2:24pm
This is a really good video for those wanting to learn how to catch those ocean runs.

If you take a good look at the helmet cam views from both paddlers you will notice that they are putting the nose of their boards sweetly into the low pressure pocket behind the wave. This is the key to it. Once you get the nose into the pocket it is your job to keep it there.

So you want to get "pulled" into the low pressure of the swell in front of you rather than get "pushed" by the high pressure on the swell behind you. It is actually a combination of both but focus on the pull and you will be on your way...
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18 May 2010 2:46pm
i like the technique in this vid.

Dave is concentrating his effort on what is required to get onto the runner and then surfs it backhand or forehand to suit his directional requirements. He conserves his effort in between runs so he has explosive pace to get on them where ever they appear then back into conservation mode.

Lots of food for thought there

Thanks for posting.

Phill
planesailing
planesailing
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18 May 2010 12:48pm
I tend to disagree...
There is no push or pull, its just gravity.
Do swells move? or simply go up and down?
Waves breaking on the beach or breaking swells might be
different but ocean swells just seem to go up and down.
So ! maybe just getting the most waterline aimed down the face
would prove successful.
IMO.
mikeman
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18 May 2010 2:56pm
planesailing said...

I tend to disagree...
There is no push or pull, its just gravity.
Do swells move? or simply go up and down?
Waves breaking on the beach or breaking swells might be
different but ocean swells just seem to go up and down.
So ! maybe just getting the most waterline aimed down the face
would prove successful.
IMO.


Do you do much downwinding?
planesailing
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18 May 2010 12:58pm
Yes ! but mostly in a boat.
CMC
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18 May 2010 3:03pm
planesailing said...

I tend to disagree...
There is no push or pull, its just gravity.
Do swells move? or simply go up and down?
Waves breaking on the beach or breaking swells might be
different but ocean swells just seem to go up and down.
So ! maybe just getting the most waterline aimed down the face
would prove successful.
IMO.


Individual water droplets may not move but energy does. It is transferred from molecule to molecule. I understand your principle from a Physics viewpoint but I don't think you're really disagreeing with what Mike said.

Gravity and wind are what is helping you to ride in the trough of the energy wave being transferred through the ocean created by wind.

Tell me you only feel downwards force from gravity in your yacht when riding the ocean swell. Does your boat not surge forwards? I've spent a bit of time on yachts as well and it sure feels like you're being pulled and pushed to me.
planesailing
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18 May 2010 1:10pm
HMMM. All interesting stuff.
Do you feel the surge or pull only because you are no longer falling downwards
but forewards as well...
I you take off at the beach on a lerge wave ..the initial drop is down, then you
(hopefully) continue to follow the "FALL LINE" along the wave, using gravity to
give you speed?
DavidJohn
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18 May 2010 4:37pm
That's a great vid and was posted here long ago when Randy first did it.. I often go back and look at it.

I've never seen anyone attack the water like the way Dave does in that vid.

I've tried to copy him but after a few paddle strokes like that I'm buggered..

DJ
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18 May 2010 10:12pm
mikeman said...

This is a really good video for those wanting to learn how to catch those ocean runs.

If you take a good look at the helmet cam views from both paddlers you will notice that they are putting the nose of their boards sweetly into the low pressure pocket behind the wave. This is the key to it. Once you get the nose into the pocket it is your job to keep it there.

So you want to get "pulled" into the low pressure of the swell in front of you rather than get "pushed" by the high pressure on the swell behind you. It is actually a combination of both but focus on the pull and you will be on your way...


yep, get a really good one of those pull runners and you will never forget- just hang on. feels like your board is pulling a wheelie
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