Paddle Technique

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Fred Rubble
Fred Rubble
WA
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WA, 96 posts
6 Jan 2011 1:44pm
While i was out in the water today i started thinking about my paddling technique
More specifically how deep i should have my blade in the water
Is it better to aim to bury the blade in the water for the majority of the stroke or have the blade half in half out of the water
Or does it not make a difference
Interested to hear everyones opinion
Dr Funk
Dr Funk
NSW
348 posts
NSW, 348 posts
6 Jan 2011 5:51pm
hey mate, have a look through dave kalama's blog. Heaps of good technique info there with pictures.
LaPerouseBay
LaPerouseBay
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CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
6 Jan 2011 4:59pm
The best tip ever for paddle technique is that the only noise you should ever hear from your paddle is the water draining off the paddle during the recovery. Run Silent, Run deep.

Any other noise is a waste of energy.

I certainly do not achieve this every stroke but watch someone like Jamie Mitchell paddle IMO the most efficient paddler on SUP I have seen and you will only see clean entry, buried paddle and a clean exit every stroke. No splash, no aeration just forwards momentum.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
6 Jan 2011 7:52pm
Stupidstupid said...

While i was out in the water today i started thinking about my paddling technique
More specifically how deep i should have my blade in the water
Is it better to aim to bury the blade in the water for the majority of the stroke or have the blade half in half out of the water
Or does it not make a difference
Interested to hear everyones opinion


i'll throw my 2 cents worth in. i've been ordinary with my paddling of late, couldn't figure out what was wrong. i finally got it back(well as good as i get) by standing up tall. when i stand tall and don't lift my bottom hand upwards to much- more of a swing with the top hand and try to flick and move the bottom hand forward. i get a lot more glide out of the board(i'm not rocking or bobbing the board), don't fatigue so readily and my body works better rather than just my arms trying to do the work. this works for me, others have different styles.

which brings me to your paddle depth. most of the blade in the water i reckon, but the lenght of the shaft is so important. at the top of the stroke with blade in the water( i like my blade to be as vertical as possible at this point), you need to be in your optimal body position for whichever is your style.

me, i need to be able to stand tall with slight body tilt forward, but still not weighted to much on the balls and toes of my feet. to much pressure on the balls and toes of your feet leads to sore, cramped fatigued feet and usually is a sign of poor paddle and body use . when i feel tired and lose it a bit i make myself try and stand tall. one of the reasons why i'm doing jacko's stairs and hill climbing tortures is so i have the strenght to be able maintain this 'stand tall' stance

anyway imo figure your best stance at the top of the stoke with pretty much all of the blade in the water and workout your best shaft lenght.

it's all a bit of a rant, but you might get something out of it
cheers
Fred Rubble
Fred Rubble
WA
96 posts
WA, 96 posts
6 Jan 2011 6:20pm
Thanks for the tips
I figure i may as well try to iron out any bad habits and work on proper technique before its too late
The Dave Kalama site looks pretty handy as well
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
7 Jan 2011 9:03am
Yes, Dave's site is good.

I'm actually not completely sold on the importance of "The Reach" (for SUP). But I am now a big believer in "The Power Zone". "The Peak Power Zone" is around 2 feet in front of your toes, and finishes roughly at your toes. Yes you still get propulsion and power outside of this zone....

It can feel like you are going faster with big long powerful strokes, when in fact you will probably go faster with the shorter strokes, and a higher stroke rate in "The Peak Power Zone".

But there's still a big requirement for technique in general...

Any feedback / thoughts are welcome ??

laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
7 Jan 2011 3:47pm
Simondo said...

Yes, Dave's site is good.

I'm actually not completely sold on the importance of "The Reach" (for SUP). But I am now a big believer in "The Power Zone". "The Peak Power Zone" is around 2 feet in front of your toes, and finishes roughly at your toes. Yes you still get propulsion and power outside of this zone....

It can feel like you are going faster with big long powerful strokes, when in fact you will probably go faster with the shorter strokes, and a higher stroke rate in "The Peak Power Zone".

But there's still a big requirement for technique in general...

Any feedback / thoughts are welcome ??




simondo- good point. the top paddlers were i/we paddle are talking about mixing it up with different stroke lenghts according to water conditions , pace required etc. interestingly, no ones talking about a lot of reach at all and i don't really see anybody doing it except if they are cruising along for a bit. personally, i reckon you would have to be superman/woman to keep a long reach going at a rapid pace
cheers
Fred Rubble
Fred Rubble
WA
96 posts
WA, 96 posts
7 Jan 2011 2:09pm
Superman or Laird Hamilton
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
8 Jan 2011 12:50am
Here's a good new vid worth watching.

DJ

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CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
8 Jan 2011 8:58am
Good vid however it is interesting that he describes pushing forward with the top hand and then actually pushes down not forwards when actually doing the final stroke.

The Article as linked to below is written by Steve West. Steve wrote the entire Kanu Culture series with legends like Chris Maynard, Nappy Napolean etc etc which are seen as the prominent authority universally on outrigger canoeing. He is now heavily involved with SUP and coaches elite athletes in England. His technique described here is what paddling coaches here in Australia are also teaching.

Take a read of this article, I think it describes what I see the best paddlers (SUP and Canoe) are doing.

http://www.islanderpaddler.com/sup-paddling-technique/

LaPerouseBay
LaPerouseBay
63 posts
63 posts
8 Jan 2011 7:51am
That's a great read CMC.

One of the best I've ever seen.
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