Paddle Technique

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surfox
surfox
QLD
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QLD, 39 posts
16 Jul 2012 8:45pm
Can't believe the way some guys who don't seem to be paddling any harder than me power past and away. Must be technique. Any body point me towards good videos or articles? No sensebtryingbtonpaddle faster if my technique is the problem.
Bleachy
Bleachy
SA
80 posts
SA, 80 posts
16 Jul 2012 9:39pm
If you jump on to youtube and search for Jim Terrel, the founder of quickblade paddles, youll find a few good videos where he does some good analysis of paddle technique using computers. Or do the same with Dave Kalama. They are 2 of the best when it comes to teaching/explaining paddle technique IMHO.

Hope that helps,

Bleachy.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
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16 Jul 2012 11:32pm
foxkiter said...

Can't believe the way some guys who don't seem to be paddling any harder than me power past and away. Must be technique. Any body point me towards good videos or articles? No sensebtryingbtonpaddle faster if my technique is the problem.


IMO a lot of what makes fast guys fast is time on the water.. There's no trick or technique.. Well some of it is technique and even equipment .. Oh and choosing your parents very carefully..

DJ
Ali Cat
Ali Cat
QLD
1205 posts
QLD, 1205 posts
17 Jul 2012 8:53am
Come down to th Gold Coast for a holiday or a weekend and do a lesson or two with Pete Dorries (Quantum Coaching). As much as the top guys might be that fast partially due to Genetics, improvement in your technique can make a huge difference to you paddle efficiency, speed and muscle recovery. Watching techniques videos is a great place to start, but having someone who knows what they're doing watching your stroke and identifying how you can improve it it a lot more beneficial. If you're planning to do a lot of paddling in the future its definately worth investing the time I getting technique right first, as its a lot easier to learn to do it right in the first place than trying to fix bad habits later.
NSW, 1613 posts
17 Jul 2012 3:26pm
I don't like to go against DJ but I reckon technique is gold particularly if you're not on the water every day.

Get some footage of yourself paddling as you rarely paddle like you think you do. Once you know how you paddle you can self diagnose a little better.

Also listen to your body in terms of what particularly hurts after a hard session. Recently started getting more shoulder pain than I should so stopped to think about my technique. Figured out I wasn't pulling strongly enough with the bottom arm. Fixed this and the shoulder is much better and board speed is up and easier to maintain. Good result if you ask me.

Sam.
E T
E T
QLD
2286 posts
E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
17 Jul 2012 3:39pm
Hi Mark, I am going to agree with most of the contributors here. They all have their benefits. I have been paddling for over five years and was taught by a very experienced coach at Noosa. I have benefited greatly from his advice and his ongoing mentoring. I initially started paddling after watching all the videos I could get my hands on from the internet, Dave Kalama, Laird Hamilton and even an old short vid of DJ paddling around a marina. They all show you methodology and can be a big help. However, getting some pointers from an experienced waterman or coach is, in my opinion, worth a lot. Some minor adjustments in style can help avoid fatigue, sore muscles and assist with your speed(if this is what you are after). My adice is: watch as many videos as you can, talk to as many paddlers as you can, watch other paddlers everytime you are on the water and if possible have a lesson or two with an experienced coach. Most of all enjoy yourself and don't be in too much of a hurry!!!!ET.
Phire
Phire
NSW
8 posts
NSW, 8 posts
17 Jul 2012 4:31pm
E T said...

Hi Mark, I am going to agree with most of the contributors here. They all have their benefits. I have been paddling for over five years and was taught by a very experienced coach at Noosa. I have benefited greatly from his advice and his ongoing mentoring. I initially started paddling after watching all the videos I could get my hands on from the internet, Dave Kalama, Laird Hamilton and even an old short vid of DJ paddling around a marina. They all show you methodology and can be a big help. However, getting some pointers from an experienced waterman or coach is, in my opinion, worth a lot. Some minor adjustments in style can help avoid fatigue, sore muscles and assist with your speed(if this is what you are after). My adice is: watch as many videos as you can, talk to as many paddlers as you can, watch other paddlers everytime you are on the water and if possible have a lesson or two with an experienced coach. Most of all enjoy yourself and don't be in too much of a hurry!!!!ET.



Found this vid of someone in Noosa doing both land and water sessions for SUP.

theoceanathlete.blogspot.com/2011/11/ocean-athlete-6.html




There is also a free coaching clinic that the Sunshine Coast club are putting on with Woogie
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
17 Jul 2012 4:39pm
Ha.. Hey ET, That old short vid of me paddling at St Kilda marina was because people back then were asking about correct technique and Dan Gavere (in the US and sponsored by Werner back then and now with Starboard) asked if someone could post a vid of themselves he could comment about what's wrong and what's right.. So I did that to get some tips (home made paddle and all).. I really should delete it.. Along with my 'Paddle pop up' vid..

Sam I agree there is a lot in correct technique for sure but I often come across some very fast guys (and gals) with some very bad technique happening.. and why they're fast is because of the time they have put in on the water (perfecting their poor technique) just paddling.. I've even seen some very fast guys not even holding onto the T handle on the top of their paddle..

DJ
E T
E T
QLD
2286 posts
E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
18 Jul 2012 12:46pm
Hey Phire (interesting name) it is not Woogie Marsh I was referring to, though he is a very experienced coach and paddler and does spend a lot of time in Noosa. The guy who got me started was Chris DeAboitiz. Chris has been attributed with bringing SUP to Australia. He is an extraordinary waterman and seems to be able to do just about anything on the water almost perfectly. I brought my first board from Chris and when I was putting it on my car he says "oh by the way, when you buy a SUP from me you get free lessons for life". Whenever I was out paddling and came across Chris, with one of his classes, he would stop the class, paddle over and give me some pointers. He has sold that business a few years ago and moved away from Noosa, though he still visits regularly. I see in other posts where people are raving about Keahi's ability, he is Chris's son, and probably got a rather hefty dose of water genes from his father. Anyway, I waffle on sometimes. Best go paddling and try to do it right!!!!!!!!!!!ET.
kiakaha
kiakaha
QLD
472 posts
QLD, 472 posts
18 Jul 2012 1:16pm
E T said...

Hey Phire (interesting name) it is not Woogie Marsh I was referring to, though he is a very experienced coach and paddler and does spend a lot of time in Noosa. The guy who got me started was Chris DeAboitiz. Chris has been attributed with bringing SUP to Australia. He is an extraordinary waterman and seems to be able to do just about anything on the water almost perfectly. I brought my first board from Chris and when I was putting it on my car he says "oh by the way, when you buy a SUP from me you get free lessons for life". Whenever I was out paddling and came across Chris, with one of his classes, he would stop the class, paddle over and give me some pointers. He has sold that business a few years ago and moved away from Noosa, though he still visits regularly. I see in other posts where people are raving about Keahi's ability, he is Chris's son, and probably got a rather hefty dose of water genes from his father. Anyway, I waffle on sometimes. Best go paddling and try to do it right!!!!!!!!!!!ET.


I think there were people doing SUP before Chris - Altho he likes to claim he was the first in Noosa I think it was Woogie who was out there up this end and Jamie Mitchell & Mick De Betta on the Gold Coast.

A small company called Surf Style which ran out of Peregian then up by Tully first brought in the Kialoa paddles and they got in two samples of the old school aluminium shafts with Carbon Blades. Woogie used a Gerry Lopez 12ft + board and tried out the paddles. He then approached Tully to make a more specific board. I think from there Chris got wind of it and started up the SUP School in Noosa.

Chris has a very unique style which has kept a lot of Physio's, Osteo's etc in business. From this we have learnt to not throw the hip out but to drive with the hips and use the core in a more efficient way.
E T
E T
QLD
2286 posts
E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
18 Jul 2012 1:33pm
Whoa, sorry Jodie I wasn't looking for an argument. I was only repeating what I have been told and have read in numerous publications. If it is wrong, so be it. Please note I made no negative reference to Woogie! ET.
kiakaha
kiakaha
QLD
472 posts
QLD, 472 posts
18 Jul 2012 7:33pm
Sorry ET never took it in a negative way just had one of those moments.


MrMyagi
MrMyagi
NSW
204 posts
NSW, 204 posts
20 Jul 2012 9:37pm
Most solid technique there is, you can't go wrong there ...

Yep, I'm the President of the Woogie Marsh Fan Club ... YEEW!!!
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