Paddle blade - going smaller

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billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
2 Apr 2011 7:54pm
I have been talking to a few people of late who have experimented with or have actually gone smaller with their paddle blades.
I would like to get some feedback from anyone who has tried or done this and how you have found the transition to the smaller blades - good and bad please. I want to know how it's affected your technique, speed/power and the impact on your body physically. Interested in both surf and open water paddling as well.
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
2 Apr 2011 6:04pm
I've had a werner spanker for about two three years now as my only paddle, it has a very long shaft and quite a large face. I've used it in surf, flatwater and downwinders and have got to know it pretty well.

Last week I bought a new board (I won't mention the brand for fear of over exposure) and kialoa methane paddle. I also cut the shaft down so it's much shorter than my werner.

To be honest - I haven't noticed anything like chalk and cheese as I thought I would with the paddle. I feel the smaller blade and cut down length maybe performs marginally better than my old werner in the surf.

The performance of the new board, however, is like chalk and cheese.
OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
VIC, 3516 posts
2 Apr 2011 11:53pm
Hey BB my 2 cents:

I used to use a Kialoa Shaka Pu'u and then changed to a Methane for both surf and race, this increased the ability to get onto waves in the surf and according to the GPS on the river runs i do increased the speed on my race board when everyone was touting 8.5 inch plus blades as a must have.

Since my back injury I have used a Kialoa Pipes thier smalest blade and have found that the smaller blade again increased the wave count over the methane and maybe 3-5% reduction in speed on race board.

I guess if your a massive unit and built like laird you can push anything, different for the average joe.

Phill



colas
colas
5388 posts
5388 posts
2 Apr 2011 9:41pm
I have recently tried another style of paddle: they are made by a local VAA specialist ("salt paddle"), and allow a very fast cadence, but not by reducing blade width: their blade is a bit shorter, but more importantly, the angle with the shaft is reduced (8 degrees), and the edges are rounded for a smoother water penetration.

The result is astonishing: you get the cadence of the Metane, but without the impression of the blade "slapping" the water surface on entry, and the normal width gives you more leverage for surf manoeuvers than narrow blades. The drawback is that it is less adapted to far reaching strokes, it is more geared towards a short, tahitian-like stroke.

So, if you want to have a faster cadence, narrow is not the only solution.
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
3 Apr 2011 8:28pm
OG SUP said...

Hey BB my 2 cents:

I used to use a Kialoa Shaka Pu'u and then changed to a Methane for both surf and race, this increased the ability to get onto waves in the surf and according to the GPS on the river runs i do increased the speed on my race board when everyone was touting 8.5 inch plus blades as a must have.

Since my back injury I have used a Kialoa Pipes thier smalest blade and have found that the smaller blade again increased the wave count over the methane and maybe 3-5% reduction in speed on race board.

I guess if your a massive unit and built like laird you can push anything, different for the average joe.

Phill






Phil - interesting you say that because I have actually been talking to a few people who have also been using the pipes which kinda goes against everything we have been hearing in the last year of so because the pipes is positively tiny compared to what the "average" guy is using. One of the reasons I am interested in getting feedback on this topic is because I, like you have a nasty back problem and I was thinking that using a smaller blade may take some load off the paddle stroke and as such be a bit easier on the back. I suppose though you would then have to weigh up whether you would need to paddle faster and perhaps more vigourously (not sure how to spell that one) to get the same amount of speed/power as the larger paddle and would that in turn be just as hard on the body as the bigger blade that you could paddle less intensely with. I have been paddling over the last week with a smaller starboard paddle - I think its about 8.1 inch and its a beautiful light paddle that is easy to turn over and very slick and stable through the water but I am not sure how much power I am losing with the small blade compared to say the kiakaha that I am used to. What I find with my kiakaha and another similar paddle is that because I am fairly weak at the moment I struggle to get the board going. Once I am up and running the paddle seems fine so long as you keep a reasonably good momentum up but the starboard paddle is soooo much quicker and easier off the mark. I have heard that the guys who have gone way smaller - and especially down to the pipes and similar that it did take a lot of getting used to but worth the change. Maybe I should use a starboard or similar smaller blade until I get a bit stronger and then compare again with my kiakaha - not sure what to do - too bloody confusing.
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