Paddling 40gig of YouTube still don't get it

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Ron54
Ron54
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
17 Feb 2013 10:22am
I've watched at least 40 gig of YouTube and still can't paddle straight on one side,every time I paddle on my left(right hand on top)the board turns to the right.I've tried lifting my heel,taking shorter strokes,moved the fin,bottom hand straight used my fat gutted cores nothing f$&@ing works.Anyone got any ideas.100 kgs riding both 12 tourer and 10' mana same on both boards,all suggestions welcome even smart arse ones.By turning right I mean the boards do a huge turn to the right,tried leaning to the left. Cheers Ron
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon
VIC
2098 posts
VIC, 2098 posts
17 Feb 2013 11:44am
Try asking someone to video you paddling from a few angles and watch it yourself. Sounds like you're maybe not getting the paddle vertical when paddling on your left side and/or not tracking the paddle straight on that side (although you might think/feel like you are).

I've got some sympathy for your issue, had a shoulder reco a couple of years ago and getting a good shoulder stack to get the paddle nice 'n vertical on the one side is a lot harder than the other. Stretches and some time on the blue roller are helping. You might also be weighting the paddle-side rail a bit. If you're standing forward and not at planing speed the board will want to follow its outline and steer opposite rail.
E T
E T
QLD
2286 posts
E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
17 Feb 2013 11:18am
As The Cartoon said there could be a number of issues. I suggest you have a good look at where your feet are placed, if not even and centred, this could be weighting the board to one side.
Another option is to look at how your paddle is going into the water. it needs to go into the water with the shaft vertical. Any lean or angle will cause the paddle to sweep and therefore make the board turn to the opposite side. Try and keep the paddle close to the board as you take your stroke and picture pulling the board past the paddle not the paddle past the board. Straight arms are also important. Dave Kalama has
a couple of vids that show this. Bent arms will cause the paddle to go in to the water out of vertical.
It is also a good idea to much other more experienced paddlers and also ask them for tips. Most people are happy to helps.
Good luck and hope this helps.
eT.
hilly
hilly
WA
8138 posts
WA, 8138 posts
17 Feb 2013 11:01am
Extension - Reach right forward with the paddle, most important part of the stroke is entry. You are too upright and paddle is behind you. Paddle should leave the water before your feet.
Ron54
Ron54
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
17 Feb 2013 3:49pm
Thanks,sorta hadn't thought about feet placement,I think I do stand in more of a part surf stance,not square on to the board,I know what you are saying about paddle placement on entering the water,but will check out what your saying.maybe I think the paddle is straight and its not .Ha you'd think once we get to a certain age we'd be happy just to be on the water,after having to stop surfing thru back problems,a major hereditary heart attack.Thanks to sup Im back in the water loving it,acting like a kid and still wanting to learn and go faster.thanks guys will put all advice into action and I will one day out paddle these young bastards
Thanks Ron
AA
AA
NSW
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AA AA
NSW, 2167 posts
17 Feb 2013 4:05pm
Ron, the way we explain it in our SUP school is that the 'square stance' - feet waist width apart in the centre of the board (either side of the handle) is that you engage the straightest part of the board. Moving in front of the handle on flatish water also helps to go straight. As soon as you get back or move one foot back you engage the curvier part of the board and it wants to turn.
A larger centre fin also helps if you are 100kg and strong.
....and what Hilly says, I like to almost fall onto my paddle when reaching forward to start the stroke so it spends more time in front of me.

E T
E T
QLD
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E T E T
QLD, 2286 posts
17 Feb 2013 6:39pm
All sounds good Ron, but, Andrew and Hilly may be a bit younger than our 58 years. Andrew's forward bend works well and is a method used by a lot of racers. It gives you a longer stroke for sure, but if you have or have had a dodgey back it may not suit.
The forward bend puts a lot of pressure on the lower back. I am not advising against it as it is a bonfide method, however, not always great for people with back problems.
Cheers. ET.
Ron54
Ron54
NSW
66 posts
NSW, 66 posts
17 Feb 2013 8:45pm
Andrew,Hilly thanks for the tip about the feet,always thought the grab handle was the sweet spot!! But moving foward,I'm really interested to try it thanks Andrew.ET your right about the back,watching the videos you try and emulate the guys you see,and after 20mins the back is hurting,not bad,but all I want is to paddle straight and keep having a ball.So I'll try all the suggestions,appreciate the the time people put in to help thank you
Sandsy1
Sandsy1
NSW
814 posts
NSW, 814 posts
18 Feb 2013 12:27pm
Ron54 said...
Andrew,Hilly thanks for the tip about the feet,always thought the grab handle was the sweet spot!! But moving foward,I'm really interested to try it thanks Andrew.ET your right about the back,watching the videos you try and emulate the guys you see,and after 20mins the back is hurting,not bad,but all I want is to paddle straight and keep having a ball.So I'll try all the suggestions,appreciate the the time people put in to help thank you


Hi Ron54, All good info, above. Mate I know where you're coming from, nearly 58, can't surf due to injury, got a stand up, havin a ball. Just a simple suggestion. Go flat water as much as possible, before you hit the surf. Practice your paddling technique, your turns etc, I just found that jumping straight into the surf, very frustrating. Paddled, paddled and paddled some more on the flat stuff and it helped when I finally got into some waves.
I found Dave Kalama's site to be really helpfull.
www.davidkalama.com/reach-dammit-reach/
Cheers
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