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DavidJohn
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2 Nov 2008 12:34am
Today Oliver and I did a trip to Torquay to take Alex (from Stonker) up on his offer to show us through the Stonker factory.

Oliver liked what he saw from my pics taken at the GSI demo weekend a few weeks ago and wanted to see a Stonker SUP in real life.

Stonker are located opposite Strapper and besides the big Rip Curl shop in the main street.



Walking in the front door there were windsurfers and kite boards everywhere.



I spotted one of the early Stonker boards that were not made on site.



Next to it were a couple of nice looking wood SUP paddles.



I haven't seen many wood paddles..These were very nice even if a bit on the heavy side but maybe I've been spoiled with my Kialoa's.





Anyway... We didn't come all this way to look at paddles..and Aaron took us out the back of the shop and into the factory.

The first thing I saw were their custom made SUP board bags.. Very nice.



It was like every other surfboard factory I've seen with ding repairs everywhere.



I love all the mess and interesting stuff to look at.



Oliver spotted one of their early custom boards... Interesting.



There were boards like I had seen down at the point a few weeks ago..all with that classic wood veiner deck...Very nice.





We saw the biggest block of foam that I've ever seen..Aaron said it was 15' long and it occurred to me that Stuey's new boards are even longer..

I couldn't help smiling.. I just can't imagine paddling a board that long.



We looked inside a shaping room and saw a surfboard being shaped..I could watch these guys all day doing their magic.



Then came the highlight of the day..Aaron showed us one of their new boards.

This one's for a customer..It's 10'6" x 30" and looked beautiful.



The wood grain on the deck looked fantastic.



I liked the nose shape and it had a slight point to it like my new Naish 11'4".



The tail was also very nice..I love the small squash tail..and they're much safer if you get hit by the board with no sharp points.



This board still needed it's finish coat and polishing and I could not fault the quality.

I could see Oliver trying to work out how much he could sell one of his kids for..I was going to offer him my hanky to wipe the dribble.



This is the bottom..nice and simple.





Alex turned up and told us about his new board and that it had a two tone wood deck and his board was still in the vacuum bag so we didn't get to see it.

We saw some wood veiner that they use.



They had a mal in the shop that Oliver liked the looks of and be was sold..It had a nice light wood center strip with dark wood sides.. Oliver wanted a SUP just like it.

Oliver ordered one.

Thanks to the Stonker guys for showing us through their place and letting me take pics so you guys can also have a look.

DJ





SammyJ
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1 Nov 2008 11:34pm
DavidJohn said...

There were boards like I had seen down at the point a few weeks ago..all with that classic wood veiner deck...Very nice.





Love the looks of this beast, that would give the feel of a shortboard for sure.

Hey DJ, I'm coming over to do some business hopefully before xmas, might try get in touch if you got a spare board would love to come paddle around st kilda for a look, Weather permitting.

stuey c
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2 Nov 2008 12:49am
Once again some cool photos DJ. I was nearly gonna post today saying what's up with all you guys going for the os production models when there are quite a few companies in Australia producing boards that are actually SUPerior, they cost less and you're SUPorting local industry! Your photos proved my point. Was pleased to see those Stonker boys doing the right thing as well and installing all their fittings (boxes, plugs, etc) pre-glassing. Buying a locally made product as well gives you the option of customising to suit your requirements, try doing that with your imported production models............
oliver
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2 Nov 2008 12:14am
I've been smiling all day and a big thanks to DJ for introducing me to Alex and Aaron at Stonker.

It was really good to go down the factory today to see all the bibs and bobs that go into making these quality boards. Got to say I'm mighty impressed and overwhelmed by the whole experience. Most of all I am pleased that not everything in life is designed by a computer program and then emailed somewhere in Asia for manufacture by robots. These guys have a real passion for what they do. I'm all for supporting our local guys who strive to produce quality products.

After supping for almost a year I have a pretty good idea of the shape and nuances I want with a board and feel very confident that these guys are going to supply me with an awesome/spunky/stonker surfing paddle board this summer. I can't wait - well done guys and thanks again DJ - I look forward to showing it off.

Couldn't agree with you more Stuey.
dism
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2 Nov 2008 2:27am
Great post name and beautiful pics

Love to see a quality board being crafted

I have my eye on a fish of those sorta specs, if not a mini mal
Scotty Mac
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2 Nov 2008 3:46pm
Nice photos DJ. Did you have an chance to pick one up and check the weight? The foam sandwich production boards are light but my experience with the PSH handglassed semi production board wasnt much heavier. Manbe not quite as bullet proof but hey, if you look after you stuff and avoid collisions, it was totally fine. I never had a sratch on mine and rode it for 6 months.
62mac
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2 Nov 2008 7:01pm
DJ,mate you should be a reporter,great stuff and gee Oliver get your head out of the shots,JKidding.
DJ the veiner decks you show,is this the way Naise manufacture thier boards?
Veiner inlay on the deck?

Cheers Marty
champcrow
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2 Nov 2008 10:29pm
Nice post and pic's DJ, i really enjoyed a look at a factory and bloody nice looking boards too. Can't wait to see pic's of your new board oliver when it's ready

Danny
Scotty Mac
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2 Nov 2008 10:35pm
mac62,
Pretty sure the naishes are full foam sandwhich, which is the way most of the boards are built at the cobra factory in Thailand. This includes surtech, naish, mistral, JP, starboard etc. Jimmy lewis are made at a factory in Vietnam and C4 are made at a factory called board works in China. That would be a molded board with styrofoam blank, a hard foam and wood vacummed on top. It gives an lighter and stronger construction. Some surfing traditionalist have criticised this construction in surfboards because they differ a lot from how a custom board feels because the EPS foam is very boyant which can make a board feel a lot more corky. Companies like firewire have spend alot of time trying to reproduce a custom feel with the performance advantages of foam sandwhich.
DavidJohn
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3 Nov 2008 12:40am
Thanks guys.. Hey 62mac the wood is pretty much the way Naish would do it I think.

BTW Naish did it for constuction reasons and never intended it to be seen.

They did one that let you see the wood and everyone liked it so much the made it a production model..It gives great compression strength.

Scotty the weight was pretty good..about 18-20 kg ( I was surprised) and that's with three six's on the top and bottom.

I don't think it's a foam sandwich construction other than the wood and foam and the vacuum bagging is more a strength/quality thing.

It would also help hold the wood down...I'm no expert about all this..I'm just guessin'..

DJ
Brooko
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3 Nov 2008 7:26am
Dj 18 -20kg is a fair bit of weight to be lugging from the car to the beach,(fine when its in the water) what would the 11 6Kalama or naish weigh in comparison, what does the 9 6" weigh?
boardbumps
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3 Nov 2008 10:00am
Brooko, I'm sure DJ mean't pounds not kilos.

Rod
DavidJohn
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3 Nov 2008 11:18am
boardbumps said...

Brooko, I'm sure DJ mean't pounds not kilos.

Rod


I'm not sure what I meant or what they said the weight was but it seemed about the same weight as my Naish (maybe less)..So yeah..maybe it was 8-10kg..

Second thoughts about it when we flipped the new unfinished board over to check the other side it was very light but then there was no fins or grip..and top coat.

This is what my Naish 11'4" weighs all up (11kg).. We'll check Olivers new board when he gets it.

DJ



Brooko
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3 Nov 2008 9:25am
I might not be a good speller but nothing gets past me
oliver
oliver
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3 Nov 2008 12:46pm
I recall hearing 10 - 11kg which felt about right.
Brooko
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3 Nov 2008 2:21pm
Will weigh my 9 6" , when the silicone drys Im using to stick the deck grip back down
Toadwhispera
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3 Nov 2008 6:19pm

Hey there Oliver

How many sleeps till you get your new board ? I must say I'm envious !!

Are you getting the two tone timber veneer on yours ? are you leaving it up to the Stonker lads to do you one up to suit you or did you put in an order specific ?

You'll have to get the Professor DJ around to do a full run down on your new Stonker Stick
Length, width, weight, rocker, and we demand photos from every conceivable angle alright !!
Would it be to rude to ask an approximate price ? What ever it is I'm sure it will be worth every cent, and if I ever get one I'll be wraping mine up in cotton wool at night.








oliver
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3 Nov 2008 6:26pm
Hey Toad,

It should take two to three weeks. I'm getting a two toned board like the mal in the photo - dark on the outside with the light wood on the inside. I've asked for a board with the same shape as the one I'm dribbling over in the photo - the 10'6".

However, I've requested that the rails be meatier around the middle section and a little thinner towards the tail and nose, to support my portly 95kg frame. I've also asked for two leash plugs a meter or so apart, positioned at the center of the board, a balsa tail block, it comes with a thruster setup with a 8" center fin, and a custom bag.

The idea with the leash plugs is, I'm planning on fastening nylon loops through them - like the c4's have. If you slide the paddle through those loops you can carry the board using the paddle as a handle. Not quite sure exactly how much it's going to cost - I guess I better find out! As a guide I was told it was priced the same as any good quality new mass production board, but I guess with the bag and all the little nuances I'm after, it will blow out a little more than that.

The only dillema I have with it is wax or or deckpad, but honestly, I really can't see myself putting a deckpad on it.
62mac
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3 Nov 2008 7:16pm
Hey Oliver,

The board sounds sweet,from a longboarders piont of view.
My question is,are you planning on using the
board for flat water or surf? I understand not wanting to
cover the wood grian with a deck pad,but wax on such a
large board is a pain in the butt to keep clean and you will
find it will find its place on everything it comes in contact
with.Maybe you could 3/4 deck pad and put a clear non
slip tape on the nose.That way you get the best of both
worlds,performance and looks!

Great idea regarding the double plugs so you can insert
the paddle!

Cheers MAC
oliver
oliver
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3 Nov 2008 7:31pm
It will be a surfing board, I have a Naish 11'6" in my quiver that I'll use for flatwater, downwinders and touring. Yep, I agree, what to do with the deck is definitely dilemma.
SF
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3 Nov 2008 9:39pm
Oliver,

I can understand your dilemma about the deck pad. I used wax for a couple of months before I bought a deck pad but I was constantly scraping off and re-waxing where I stood to paddle because the wax melts under your feet. I have seen pictures of SUP surfers with a small pad where they stand and wax everywhere else.

Steve
Jamesy
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3 Nov 2008 8:48pm
Yeah, I am having the same problem about what to do with the deck grip!
I am almost finished building a plywood hollow SUP, but I am going to have the wood grain showing on the deck and bottom of the board with white trim on the rails like the Stonker's (it looks sweet!!!) so I may be ok covering the deck because there is grain on the bottom aswell!

What do you guys think?
Brooko
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3 Nov 2008 7:57pm
Regardless of looks there is no-way i am running wax on a sup, for several reasons there is just no comparison with a deck grip, even the simple little thing of how much protection a deck grip offers when transporting your sup, to hot days with messy wax. All my surfboards are wax and really its a pain in the **s!
62mac
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3 Nov 2008 7:58pm
If your not planning on nose riding i would go with 3/4 deck pad and show
some timber on the nose,as i mentioned to Oliver,best of both worlds and
creates a classic look,but perfomance must come first!

mac
boardbumps
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3 Nov 2008 10:15pm
Hey Oliver, ask Stonker to put a peel ply non skid finish on your board. It is clear resin and shows the grain real well. I put it in front of my deck pads on all my SUP boards. Its a simple easy process and adds no extra weight.

Rod
Ben dover
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3 Nov 2008 9:26pm
Hey Oliver I'd just go with a deckpad.

I wouldn't get the peel ply non skid finish on your board you will end up with worse rashes than this



oliver
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3 Nov 2008 8:36pm
Hey Boardbumps,

I believe they had a board there with that finish on it:

It has as a matte pourous kind of finish



Oooh that tail block looks good!

You guys have got me thinking.... wax is a pain. Maybe I could get some vertical strips of deckpad placed about 5cm apart through the middle/ section of the board.

Hehehe bendover - I got that (deck rash) when I first started supping I was floundering in surf too big for me for hours using the standard Naish deckpad. Ouch.
champcrow
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4 Nov 2008 12:14am
I know what you guy's mean, i used wax as long as i could (which was 8 months) because i didn't want to cover that nice wood finish. In the end i put on th naish camo grip and haven't looked back since. No more scraping and re-applyingand getting wax on the edge of the roof on my car At least with the 3/4 you still get to look at that nice wood finish up the front of the board.
boardbumps
boardbumps
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4 Nov 2008 9:51am
You just want the nonskid in front of you EVA deck pad for those nose walks
I wash my boards every time I use them with fresh water before putting them on my car roof racks, got to stop the rust!

Rod
Internerd
Internerd
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4 Nov 2008 2:24pm
What sort of $$$ we talkin' for these boards?
DavidJohn
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5 Nov 2008 1:34pm
Internerd said...

What sort of $$$ we talkin' for these boards?


I'm not 100% sure but I think about the same price as a new Naish board..Maybe a bit cheaper.

DJ

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