Lots of agro there..and not worth reading.

We all need to proove these guys wrong and do the right thing.

Wouldn't it be nice to turn this around.

DJ

It never stops amazing me that these people think and honestly believe that the ocean and 'break' is theirs...[}:)]...one of these days we are going to see a 'sea rage' incident on the news!! These people have some serious anger management issues - I thought that was what surfing was about - stress free and calming.....it is for me... - there is only one word to describe them - and that was used at the beginning of this post -

Saying that I agree with David - everyone SUP surfer can do their bit to gain the respect of other surfers.....especially novices like me who stay well clear of a busy line up !

Rob

As a previous kiteboarder, Isee myself as more of a danger in the surf vs SUP.

If i crashed and i now have my kite with 27m of line now laying all over the ocean and there are surfers in my path, well if the kite took off and you are in the way at best you will have several stitches.

At worst you will lose a limb.

Kite lines have a hell of a lot of strain on them and if you are with in that 27m of line well that area is in danger.

So my point is if i fall off my SUP and i was bumb enough to not have a leash well i would have to be dam good at aiming my board direct into the path of a surfer vs my 27m of killer kite lines.

And we as SUP surfers dont land on people on the beach of fly into buildings out of control.

SO.. My thoughts are if you are a moaning wanker in the surf over SUP why not try it yourself you may find yourself joining the real stoke.

Shoki said...

Had to add something else as well...

I've been surfing on and off now for 15 years and went from a shortboard to a mal then just recently to a SUP. It appears to me that an awful lot of short board surfers are loosing the 'cool' out of surfing - they rip waves like they are high on anger....

I see Mal riders and SUP surfers as bringing the cool back into surfing - lets not forget that SUPing was the original surfing was it not?

in my view longboarders and SUP surfers bring back the 'cool' in surfing and you know what I reckon we are by far the nicest guys in the line ups - we talk to each other - even strangers and remind everyone else what surfing is about - having fun with your friends !

Don't get me wrong I admire and have a lot of time for an awful lot of shortboard riders - but they have to take responsibility for their actions and behavior in the ocean, I saw a tourist last year get verbal abuse by a local and it must have ruined his day and maybe even holiday - I stuck up for the guy and gave some back - luckily I am not a small guy! Shortboard surfing seems to be attracting some right drop outs.....not cool.

Anyway could not help get that off my chest - interested to hear what the rest of you think,
thanks guys and stay cool out there 'cos I think you guys rock !

Rob

As you mentioned some of the nicest people ride SUP and that is also said for this forum. Have you ever seen a argument on here over views on boards paddles etc.

As a kiwi i do try to get a bite but never bloody works

Gorgo said...


Did longboarders get upset when shortboards first came along?

That's a really good question Gorgo. Yours truly started on a shortboard in the late 60's (actually, Coolite first ), but it would be interesting to hear from anyone out there who was surfing in the 60's (& 50's?) whether there was any friction when shortboards first started appearing.
Lot of us have short memories. The shortboarders forget that longboards & wooden stand-ups were the precursor to any shortboarding. And the mal riders who get antsy at "their" break being invaded by sups, conveniently forget that it was more than likely a shortboard break back in the 70's-80's.

I used to surf Bells and Johanna and Woolamai regularly in the early 70's on my surf mat. It was such a good time to be in the surf and everybody was really cool about it.

One of my best surf memories is blasting down the face of a 10' wave at Suicide going badoomph over the top of guys trying to paddle out.

I'm thinking of reviving the surf mat because apparently George Greenough and his mates are doing it again. Maybe I can use inflatable kite technology to develop ultra-high performance surf mats.

SUPs are so last year. Real watermen do it lying down on a lilo.

Good on old mate Sparx for having a crack anyway, he made sense. But as Teatree said im not really interested in all this guffaw anymore I have been surfing for 25 yrs and paddle surfing for 18 months I belong where I think I belong and if anyone has anything to say , Im happy to deal with it there and then

boarder paul said...

Brooko save that anger for sat night for the rugby. You gona need it[}:)]

Haha Paul, im more an Aussie rules fan, BUT in this big wide world its good to be opened minded and like everything, so GO THE AUSSIES

I think ill sell my sup, I dont want agro.. Haaa like ****...
What is just as bad is a longboarder saying hey you stole my wave even if im on a longboard as well.

Ahhh The moaning longboarder its a ultimate prime for a man thats about to be married as its verry close to a naging wife.

Shhh the wife is here ahhh dont bash me dear i was just just ahhh Noooo

You know what, there's 2 things you need to acknowledge here. A lot of d'heads ride SUP and before you get you underwear in a knot here's no.2. Alot of d'heads ride Shortboards, Longboards, surf ski's etc etc.

It's where these 2 intersect in any combo that trouble begins.

OK, I live in Tugun which means I surf Currumbin Alley a lot. On my shortboards when it's good, on my Mal when it suits and on my SUP admittedly more than the others these days for the rest of the time.

My observations locally here are that there are a lot of people that hit this break as a learning grounds for SUP amongst other boards. The difference? A SUP allows the rider to affect so many other peoples time in the water so much more than on any other board. You cover more ground, your board is heavier and you are able to hurt yourself and others more also.

What honestly confuses and often upsets me is that while there are amazing SUP waves down the line a bit here so many guys insist on their SUP's of continually paddling through the crowd to the top of the pack to take once again the best wave of the set. Why? Because he can. This is simply not good enough. If you done it on a shortboard you would get a mouthfull at the minimum, a rightful rough up at the most. Yet I see it happen time and time again and people rightfully getting frustrated.

One of the other guys here said it correct. Surfing is about having fun. Part of having fun and the true surfing spirit is also sharing. The friction here is where SUP riders endanger other peoples lives as they ill control their oversized board and take more waves than their share. Oh wait, I ride SUP don't I?

I believe a lot of the frustration stems from people without manners or from outside of surfing that have never been schooled in the basic etiquette of a surf 'line up'. Lets face there are many taking to SUP that have no idea of how a line up works or the simple rules that exist to keep things in order and people safe. Like paddle around the outside on the way back out, rider closest to the curl gets right away etc etc. Basic stuff but from what I have seen things that so many simply do not know.

We can all be proactive in helping our new found passion co-exist at our favourite surf breaks. How about having a quiet word with the guys you see being greedy or just explaining the basic rules to the beginners.

The real win for SUP for me is being able to ride the waves noone else wants or that I would even want on my normal boards. I don't get any drama and regularly get complemented for not ruining other peoples surfs when I obviously have the power to do so. Above that if I ride SUP when it's bad I am on point on my normal boards when it's good.

I don't agree with SUP or any bashing, but a dick on a SUP can be a bigger Kook than on anything else. Read what Blane Chambers thinks, this guy has got the theory wired. It's all about manners.......

Just as an aside, rudeness and lack of consideration seem to be normal behaviour for some people, no matter what the activity.

How many times have you been to a movie or a show to have some arsehole insist on talking or whatever all the way through or happy dancers bopping away and hooting and blocking everybody else's view (with ticket prices between $150-$400).

I saw a woman today park at right angles across three parking spots, including two disabled spots and stroll into a shop.

How many times have you seen smokers blow their smoke all over everybody else, drop their butts, wrappers and empty packets on the ground (usually with empty cans and bottles as well).

Yeah CMC, spot on. Don't see it as much down here but our numbers aren't close to the guys SUPing up there. It's sometime hard to let the good ones go through but you feel better when you do!

Everyone is happy if you share and you leave feeling like you were accepted by the others in the water which is a good feeling.

Come up with a cure for the nipple burn and mattin' will be the next big thing.

Gorgo said...

I used to surf Bells and Johanna and Woolamai regularly in the early 70's on my surf mat. It was such a good time to be in the surf and everybody was really cool about it.

One of my best surf memories is blasting down the face of a 10' wave at Suicide going badoomph over the top of guys trying to paddle out.

I'm thinking of reviving the surf mat because apparently George Greenough and his mates are doing it again. Maybe I can use inflatable kite technology to develop ultra-high performance surf mats.

SUPs are so last year. Real watermen do it lying down on a lilo.