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Short Acid trip NZ

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Created by Supmaori > 9 months ago, 31 May 2017
Supmaori
662 posts
31 May 2017 3:28PM
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Fun size beach break..what happens when you leave work early haha..quality a bit poor but just sharing the stoke..loving this board...probably only ridden about 10 times so far..its a keeper !

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Smash1
NSW, 812 posts
31 May 2017 9:15PM
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I love mine. It's a super shred machine

SUPbru
382 posts
1 Jun 2017 1:56AM
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Nice bru - chuffed you're loving your new stick!

Supmaori
662 posts
1 Jun 2017 3:28AM
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Cheers brother. .pretty average footage but can't blame the stick on that lol..it's a machine!

Supmaori
662 posts
1 Jun 2017 3:28AM
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Cheers brother. .pretty average footage but can't blame the stick on that lol..it's a machine!

Stev0
396 posts
1 Jun 2017 4:02AM
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Nice! I have had my Acid for 18 months and every time I ride it I am stoked. Burt sprinkled a bit of magic dust on this board. It does everything awesomely well in a wide range of swell. She's a keeper.
What fins are you using? I use FCS Nexus H-3 which made it even more surfy. Going to try Maui Fin Co Kai thrusters as they get rave reviews so will report back.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1845 posts
1 Jun 2017 6:33AM
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Nice!! I am extremely jealous - I will be out of the water for a while....

Supmaori
662 posts
1 Jun 2017 5:17AM
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Thanks Stevo..im using C drives..L sides M centre...works really well. Still fairly new and only ridden this about 8 times...but feels so good under foot...cant beat the construction either...Id be keen to hear how your new fins go mate. Ive probably added a couple pf kgs on since i got and it so sit around 97kg with wettie now. I try and take it out in Sh@t surf too..whcih we have had a bit of lately just to push myself with stability ..so far so good.
CSE hope you get wet soon mate.
Chur bretha's

supthecreek
1807 posts
1 Jun 2017 6:51AM
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Nice riding SM.... always fun to see your vids!

Supmaori
662 posts
1 Jun 2017 7:18AM
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Thanks STC..unfortunately a few of the nicer waves were off to the left and for some reason the SOLO didnt pan there...but stoked wit the sunova..Speeed been dry since i got the Acid but taking it to Hawaii in 5 weeks..yeowwww

Feps
NSW, 91 posts
1 Jun 2017 9:14PM
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kia ora bro,
Good vid - can see a difference in your style from the minion, speeed and now acid. I have just (about) sold my fanatic pro wave 8'9'' 116L, bought a naish 8'3'' x32 for some fun beachies and now looking at the speed or acid. How does the speeed compare to the acid? Cheers

Supmaori
662 posts
2 Jun 2017 6:31AM
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Chur Fepsi
Yea defintely a progression with each board for sure. I still have all 3 you mentioned as on their own they offer something a bit different. Minion - Sub 8ft, Speeed..performance with that parallel outline and the Acid for all out assault. My favourite is the Acid 1) because its new i guess and 2) most importantly allows me to surf in the style i like. All three suit my breaks and spots which is something to factor in too.
My bro Supbru has surfed and owned more Sunova then anyone i know and he's the man for expert advice on the finer points of sizes and differences between each.
But to answer your question and based on my experience..the Speeed, due to its shape has a more long board performance feel to it.drawn out lines and turns...but still rips due to its width (27"). Its has glide and is really stable when you get the hang of it because of the nose width . Its kind of like the more sophisticated refined version of a minion IMO. Sleek lines thinner all over and juice in the tail . For me, im always conscious of getting my rear foot back as far as i can without compromising my balance et****his make the board come alive. Good in all conditions too IMO. Can get caught up in windy offshore tho.
The Acid, i think differs in that its all out assault weapon ( keep in mind i have had less than a dozen surfs on it). Really has a short board feel to it, can ride from the middle more..turns are tighter and faster..has lots of speed down the line too. Things i noticed straight away ..feels like its wants to take off when you stand on it..stable but more unforgiving when you get it wrong. Took me a couple of sessions to stop pearling at take off..smaller sweet spot and have to be closer to the critical part on take off. Has next to no glide compared to the speeed..but rips waves without even thinking about it. If i want cruisey surf, high wave count with I would use my speeed..if i want a big workout and full on action, rippin - the Acid . Its now become my everyday board . I would use my speeed now if i had to paddle the 3km to my spot X.
Both boards are are so harty in construction and can be surfed hard. My speeed still looks like new. Love how the look and feel too..super sleek finish all over..and the handle IMO is the best Ive used.
Im about 97kg wet and the Acid is 106L, Minion 115L, Speeed 112L
The acid is the most challenging of the three due to low volume and my wight haha but the most rewarding on the wave.

Chur bro hope that helps

SUPbru
382 posts
2 Jun 2017 9:14AM
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Yeah, SUPMaori's not far wrong there...I'm a self-confessed board junkie & 2 tried & tested shapes are the Speeed & Acid

SUPMaori has pretty much nailed it with his summary...a few things to add:

- for larger model Speeed's, the main challenge is getting your back foot over the fins to turn the board effectively (not an issue with the smaller models e.g. the 7'8 Speeed is pretty much my only board where I regularly feel my back foot in contact with the stomper)
- because of the outline curve of the Acid vs the parallel rails of the Speeed, the Acid is at home going vertical whereas aggressive turns on larger model Speeed's can look & feel a bit laboured & forced...IMO
- my main challenge on larger model Speeed's in decent size surf is not to out-run the wave e.g. because it's got speed to burn, it's easy to race ahead of the wave vs the Acid where it's easier to wash off speed & surf more critical parts of the wave
- the Acid has decent lateral stability vs the Speeed which has good lateral + front & back stability i.e. it's a different kind of stability (litre-for-litre, I personally don't think the Speeed is a lot more stable vs the Acid because it's a narrower shape)
- I prefer the Acid in powerful bowly beach breaks whereas the Speeed is a dream on open faces where you can lay some carving turns (that being said, the smaller Speeed's also rip in beach breaks....check out some of Marty & Casso's footage)

If you held a gun to my head, I would choose the Acid over the Speeed but, the most important thing is matching a board to your local conditions + your skill level e.g. the Speeed is an easier board to progress on. As a 2 board quiver, they are great options because they both offer something quite different.

Stev0
396 posts
2 Jun 2017 8:10PM
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The durability of my 8'11 Acid is impressive as it is in mint condition after 18 months. All I needed to do was fix a tiny bit of deck grip that started peeling. The lift handle is great with no problems and is the best on the market. I don't use rail tape and can't see many scratches.
I would love a smaller Acid to try but I have my Minion.

Feps
NSW, 91 posts
2 Jun 2017 11:47PM
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Supmaori said..
Chur Fepsi
Yea defintely a progression with each board for sure. I still have all 3 you mentioned as on their own they offer something a bit different. Minion - Sub 8ft, Speeed..performance with that parallel outline and the Acid for all out assault. My favourite is the Acid 1) because its new i guess and 2) most importantly allows me to surf in the style i like. All three suit my breaks and spots which is something to factor in too.
My bro Supbru has surfed and owned more Sunova then anyone i know and he's the man for expert advice on the finer points of sizes and differences between each.
But to answer your question and based on my experience..the Speeed, due to its shape has a more long board performance feel to it.drawn out lines and turns...but still rips due to its width (27"). Its has glide and is really stable when you get the hang of it because of the nose width . Its kind of like the more sophisticated refined version of a minion IMO. Sleek lines thinner all over and juice in the tail . For me, im always conscious of getting my rear foot back as far as i can without compromising my balance et****his make the board come alive. Good in all conditions too IMO. Can get caught up in windy offshore tho.
The Acid, i think differs in that its all out assault weapon ( keep in mind i have had less than a dozen surfs on it). Really has a short board feel to it, can ride from the middle more..turns are tighter and faster..has lots of speed down the line too. Things i noticed straight away ..feels like its wants to take off when you stand on it..stable but more unforgiving when you get it wrong. Took me a couple of sessions to stop pearling at take off..smaller sweet spot and have to be closer to the critical part on take off. Has next to no glide compared to the speeed..but rips waves without even thinking about it. If i want cruisey surf, high wave count with I would use my speeed..if i want a big workout and full on action, rippin - the Acid . Its now become my everyday board . I would use my speeed now if i had to paddle the 3km to my spot X.
Both boards are are so harty in construction and can be surfed hard. My speeed still looks like new. Love how the look and feel too..super sleek finish all over..and the handle IMO is the best Ive used.
Im about 97kg wet and the Acid is 106L, Minion 115L, Speeed 112L
The acid is the most challenging of the three due to low volume and my wight haha but the most rewarding on the wave.

Chur bro hope that helps


Thanks Supmaori and Supbru, great replies. I really like your latest vid above with the acid. Ready to get a hold of both boards for a demo. Thanks again!

Altkaiks
1 posts
22 Jun 2017 11:57PM
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SUPbru said..
Yeah, SUPMaori's not far wrong there...I'm a self-confessed board junkie & 2 tried & tested shapes are the Speeed & Acid

SUPMaori has pretty much nailed it with his summary...a few things to add:

- for larger model Speeed's, the main challenge is getting your back foot over the fins to turn the board effectively (not an issue with the smaller models e.g. the 7'8 Speeed is pretty much my only board where I regularly feel my back foot in contact with the stomper)
- because of the outline curve of the Acid vs the parallel rails of the Speeed, the Acid is at home going vertical whereas aggressive turns on larger model Speeed's can look & feel a bit laboured & forced...IMO
- my main challenge on larger model Speeed's in decent size surf is not to out-run the wave e.g. because it's got speed to burn, it's easy to race ahead of the wave vs the Acid where it's easier to wash off speed & surf more critical parts of the wave
- the Acid has decent lateral stability vs the Speeed which has good lateral + front & back stability i.e. it's a different kind of stability (litre-for-litre, I personally don't think the Speeed is a lot more stable vs the Acid because it's a narrower shape)
- I prefer the Acid in powerful bowly beach breaks whereas the Speeed is a dream on open faces where you can lay some carving turns (that being said, the smaller Speeed's also rip in beach breaks....check out some of Marty & Casso's footage)

If you held a gun to my head, I would choose the Acid over the Speeed but, the most important thing is matching a board to your local conditions + your skill level e.g. the Speeed is an easier board to progress on. As a 2 board quiver, they are great options because they both offer something quite different.


Hey, just wondering about your thoughts on the 8'4 Acid? I was looking at getting a Sunova and I currently ride an 8"3' ASP 28.5 x 110 litres. I weigh 95kgs and was thinking of getting the 8"4' Sunova Acid. Is it stable enough do you think?

I really like the look of the rails and the way it is more Surf orientated. This is what drew me to ASP Boards as they felt awesome to SUP Surf and the closest I had felt to short boarding on a SUP. What is your opinion? Looking at their range, the lengths are very different to the dimensions of the ASP range. Do you find the SUNOVA Boards stable? Even if I went down to the 8"4' Acid, I would still be sacrificing about 14 litres?!?!? as it's 96 litres?
In the ASP range, I would probably try the 8"1' at 28.5 wide, 106 litres.
The 8"3' 28.5 x 110 litres ASP I ride now is really good but tends to be too tippy in choppy conditions. I would love to go down to a smaller board for better performance and vertical surfing, and looking at the Acid, it looks like a good board, especially with the rail outline and the pulled in tail.
Whats your thoughts?
Cheers,
Al

SUPbru
382 posts
23 Jun 2017 3:23AM
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Hey dude - I sent you a PM but for anyone else that's interested, I would say the following:

- age / weight / height / ability & experience / your current conditions & what you hope you get out of the board are all important variables
- the Acid is first & foremost a performance shape which takes a while to dial in i.e. it will have a very different feeling vs your ASP (it's not as lightweight) so you ideally need to demo
- it also has less volume in the nose & tail + a different rocker profile (if your objective is to go as short as possible, the Acid is not the correct call) so it's hard to compare it like-for-like vs the ASP although granted, both are performance shapes

Relative to an experienced riders weight (which it sounds like you are) I personally think that a ratio of:

- 1:1 is too much of a compromise for us mere mortals (the 8'4 will be close to a 1:1 ratio vs your weight so it will really limit you in terms of when you can use the board unless you're happy to only use it for clean sessions or you drop a few kilos )
- 1:1.1 is great if you want to maximise performance but, it still keeps you on your toes if conditions are less than ideal
- 1:1.2 gives you a nice cushion if you want a bit more comfort in 'most' conditions

This all links back to your quiver...will you have a back-up board...or 2?

The Acid's rails are phenomenal & the board does feel a lot smaller on the wave. I hope that helps

Supmaori
662 posts
23 Jun 2017 5:55AM
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Chur SupBru exactly right on the money as always brother. The only thing i can add Al is my experience, im pretty close to your weight, about 97kgs wet. I looked very closely at the ASP 8'3 too but couldn't go past another Sunova- have the 8'5 Speeed also in my quiver. I originally was going for the 8'4 Acid as i really liked the shorter length (and was a little lighter too at the time of ordering) , in saying that you really don't notice the extra 3" on the 8'7..it feels alot shorter on the water. Very refined board all over and just a wave weapon as others have said.
I was pretty sure I could have dialed the 8'4 in but i think the learning curve would have been steeper, with more frustration and time.The conditions would have to be near on perfect too, which doesn't happen all that much at my break. The 8'7 i ride in any conditions now and after 3 months feel really comfortable on it in any size wave. If i don't concentrate tho, it can still throw me off randomly but not often. Performance wise ive only just started to tap into its potential. Thats the most exciting thing..still so mush more juice in there..only limited by my skills really, and I wanted a board that would push me.
The plan now is to ride my 8'7 over the year and when i get an opportunity , jump on the 8'4 and use that as my perfect glassy condition board and start all over again.
Hope that helps Al..in short- pleased i went with the 8"7 first bro

Chur Byron

Brenno
QLD, 707 posts
23 Jun 2017 5:06PM
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Hey all you acid trippers. Is the deck on the acid flat, or domed?

SUPbru
382 posts
24 Jun 2017 2:29AM
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Hey Brenno...domed but not as exaggerated as the Speeed nor Insane.



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