Sic vid for down-winders.

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DavidJohn
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2 Sep 2009 8:31am
Check out this new vid showing the new F16s and F18s..

DJ

teatrea
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2 Sep 2009 10:37am
good find , about the 3.19 mark looked like fun.It would be awesome to do a downwinder in some very large open ocean swells.Anyone know what speeds the deep ocean swells travel at compared to the speed once they hit shallow water?
DavidJohn
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2 Sep 2009 11:27am
It's good to see someone else having to do that backhand paddle save at the 1.44 mark..

DJ
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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2 Sep 2009 11:28am
Here's how you work out the wave speed.... Good luck..

DJ

Wind waves are mechanical waves that propagate along the interface between water and air; the restoring force is provided by gravity, and so they are often referred to as surface gravity waves. As the wind blows, pressure and friction forces perturb the equilibrium of the water surface. These forces transfer energy from the air to the water, forming waves. In the case of monochromatic linear plane waves in deep water, particles near the surface move in circular paths, making wind waves a combination of longitudinal (back and forth) and transverse (up and down) wave motions. When waves propagate in shallow water, (where the depth is less than half the wavelength) the particle trajectories are compressed into ellipses.[4][5]

As the wave amplitude (height) increases, the particle paths no longer form closed orbits; rather, after the passage of each crest, particles are displaced slightly from their previous positions, a phenomenon known as Stokes drift.[6][7]

For intermediate and shallow water, the Boussinesq equations are applicable, combining frequency dispersion and nonlinear effects. And in very shallow water, the shallow water equations can be used.

As the depth below the free surface increases, the radius of the circular motion decreases. At a depth equal to half the wavelength ?, the orbital movement has decayed to less than 5% of its value at the surface. The phase speed of the surface wave (also called the celerity) is well approximated by




c = phase speed;
? = wavelength;
d = water depth;
g = acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface.

In deep water, where , so and the hyperbolic tangent approaches 1, c, in m/s, approximates , when ? is measured in meters. This expression tells us that waves of different wavelengths travel at different speeds. The fastest waves in a storm are the ones with the longest wavelength. As a result, after a storm, the first waves to arrive on the coast are the long-wavelength swells.

When several wave trains are present, as is always the case in nature, the waves form groups. In deep water the groups travel at a group velocity which is half of the phase speed. Following a single wave in a group one can see the wave appearing at the back of the group, growing and finally disappearing at the front of the group.

As the water depth d decreases towards the coast, this will have an effect: wave height changes due to wave shoaling and refraction. As the wave height increases, the wave may become unstable when the crest of the wave moves faster than the trough. This causes surf, a breaking of the waves.

The movement of wind waves can be captured by wave energy devices. The energy density (per unit area) of regular sinusoidal waves depends on the water density ?, gravity acceleration g and the wave height H (which is equal to twice the amplitude, a):

teatrea
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2 Sep 2009 11:50am
Clear as Mud.
Zimbo Reagan
Zimbo Reagan
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2 Sep 2009 10:01am
So what you are saying is

A = (B + C + D)*X

Where:
A = Fun
B = Wind
C = Water
D = Board
X = Rider ability, the only variable
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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2 Sep 2009 12:28pm
Zimbo Reagan said...

So what you are saying is

A = (B + C + D)*X

Where:
A = Fun
B = Wind
C = Water
D = Board
X = Rider ability, the only variable



That's more like it..

DJ

Dartboy
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2 Sep 2009 5:00pm
And to think that was filmed in Port Phillip bay . we are so lucky to live here
Was very inspiring clip and cant wait for Summer !

Thanks DJ
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