NSW
698 posts
Hey Greg,
I have been paddling the 12'6 all weekend, no waves. You'll have to break out the Laird more often.
NSW
698 posts
So lets see your sub 9'0 boards in a small wave video.
This is an Aus designed board, pintail as well, they are not supposed to perform a loosely as this video shows.
Lets see some square tail and swallow tail action.
A video really does not lie.
The waves look a bit like Triggs or Scarbs.
NSW
698 posts
I've brought this back as a comparison to the simmons thing, in 'how small is not too stupid'.
This is a pintail surfing tiny waves with no guts.
The board is a scaled up version of Annies new 7'3, or the other way around.
NSW
2151 posts
Come to one of our club comps Rod. Tonnes of guys on Sup 9 footers smashing tiny waves. Surf in that vid would be good for some of our comps - although the last one had good waves.
SUPs get so much speed I don't see the big deal with 'special' designs for small waves, it is the bigger stuff that is trickier to design for, IMO.
QLD
3954 posts
The Simmons idea was brought up as people have an infatuation with going shorter. I tried to go to 8'6 x 28 @ 90kgs personally and did not have the balance and do not surf SUP enough to warrant dealing with it in anything but glassy conditions. I am way happier on my 8'11 round tail.
The point was that short, wide and round boards go nowhere. The Simmons idea was offered up as a solution to those looking for super short as the parallel outline of the design does not suffer the same fate as bolbous outlined rice bubble or CD type designs. The feedback on the design is that it is extremely fast and likes to go vertical. Not just pivot and flat wiggle.
NSW
698 posts
Dralyagmas, I'm 95kg and 57 yr old and now I'm off to work on the 7'3
SA
380 posts
Would that be the same board you would take out in 4ft?
NSW
698 posts
Yes, we had four foot sets easy today, sucky low tide over the outside reef.
I only ride it as a twin fin mostly.
I got smacked a couple of times as the swell has a bit of east and was pushing onto the reef and doubling with the south swell.
I made some good drops as well, the twinny hangs in.
I fin it up with quads for when its around 5 foot, but really you are just hanging on and making waves not really chucking it around, but it handles it (10 foot face).
The Twin fin sizes I use now are,
on the bottom turn side an old thick, stiff, first edition G2,
on the cut back side a new M5.
They are some fins I had lying around and used when I wanted to go smaller to see what happened. I usually make all my fins for my boards, but I never underestimate serendipity.
The fins in the youtube are quads that I made, the fronts are a bit smaller than G3 and the backs are GX size and assymetric foiled, flat inside.
The front bottom turn side fin is the stiffest fin, the cutback front fin is more flexier than the front bottom turn but stiffer than the back fins which both have the same flex. So there are three different flexes all working together.
The fins I used today are different from the fins I used in the video.
2768 posts
Bumps
I got what the vid was about...
I was very surprised to see how loose, effortless and smooth the turns were on a board with a "fairly" pronounced pin. Especially in small weak surf.
I rather like the flow of your turns... not slashy and overworked, but with good rhythm that seemed to make the most of a small sunny day.
That width makes for great float of a board with only 117 ltr... well done
NSW
698 posts
well boys,
all you have to do is be around this winter and try out one of my
9'0 Power Boards, or if it gets a bit hairy then one of my 9'6 mini Guns will give you the paddle power to get into the out side bombi.
This one sucks out like Jakes when the swells right.
Believe me, I have riddeen Jakes at huge sizes when I was younger. The biggest baddest barrel of my life, no one out except me the dip stick. That did not last long after that tube, the car park went crazy.
To shape and design big boards you have to be able to ride them to an advanced level, to prove the design.
Its no use giving your imagination a run and putting out this is what I think will go for you, and not even be able surf them, complete waste of time.
All of the best designs over the decades have come from the better surfer shapers, not neccesarily comp surfers, just really competant free surfers.
After all what we are trying to do is find the right formulae for SUP, just like a standard 6'0 - 6'1 short board that you see in surf shops all over the world, a mature design.
Today you can go to brazil and select a 6'1, go to Japan and find the same basic design to ride in the most common size of surf, 1 to 3 foot.
Show us your vids boys.
