You have .......Particularly when you have a carbon fiber club in your hand.....use it next time....give the sucker a good wack on the back of the head...teach him some maners

How close were you to the other surfer?

What type of board was the other surfer on?

In this situation where if I was on the inside taking off, and there was a longboarder/SUP out on the shoulder I probly would nt have worried to much as you going to stay wide anyway, im on a shortboard so the shoulder for me is a no go zone unless Im flying along.
It has happened to me, but as long as there is some distance between you there shouldnt be a prob but the rule is first surfer up, its their wave.
Ive been dropped in on by mals and generally there isnt a prob as they are way out in front, sumtimes its fun to watch other craft ect while you behind them but only in small surf.
My 2c

If he's paddling back out after just catching a wave or paddling out for the first time he has no right to your wave. If he's been waiting in position for a while and he's closer to the pocket than you, let him have it (the wave not the Brooko). If you're getting plenty of waves and it happens every now and then, don't worry about it. If it's happening so often that you're not getting your share of waves you might need to have a chat.

Legion said...

You did the right thing. Shortboarders always have right of way.

classic legion....haha....

don't worry about it too much just pull off with a "yewwww go mate" and paddle back out and catch another wave OR just crank into a massive round house cuttie and use him as the soft and squishey whitewash rebound

Snaked

Had the wave broken? How wide were you?

If his paddling back out and you are up and riding you def have the right of way

But if out wide and not riding in the pocket let him surf and do his thing in there but if you do a tight roundhouse bad luck to him if you hit him. If he is a good competent surfer he will be able to get out of your way anyway, it should not worry you if his inside you in the pocket anyway, and he will surely realize you DO have the right of way though.

Hard call IMO. This happens a bit when I'm surfing and if it continues with the same person then I would fade him and
see if it happens again. But usually I'll keep a sneaky eye on who's getting waves and if the person is only getting their
share then I'll pull off every time. You can always get the next one.

When I think about it, every surf I would get more waves than any other prone surfer in the water so letting some go/or
pulling out in this case is fine. If a pronie sees you pull off you will probably build some respect which is always good.

In your case HAAK, it probably was rude and if it happened twice then I'd be looking at options. But sounds like you're
doing everything right.

loco4olas said...

high as a kite said...



On a nice left hander the other day, all be it wide on the shoulder turning back toward the pocket when I noticed a prone paddler heading back out. He decided to turn and catch the waves in the pocket.

As a general rule-that's called 'snaking'. You have the right of way-BUT, like Doggie says, if you're out on the shoulder 'going straight' don't be surprised to see surfers take off inside you to ride the more critical part of the wave-which they may view as going to waste.

Yeah, you got snaked. but it sounds you like you were way out on the shoulder. It also sounds like old mates been there for a while and there's a thing called hierarchy. most likely earned his place in the line up. Learn to respect it.

Who ever is up and riding has right of way....

As far as this comment, Sorry have to DISagree 100% ,especially when your on a standup! and everyone else is on a surfboard...

Probably doesn't relate to this post specifically, but I'll post anyway.

I was out on Monday with Alan at Big Left. The bigger sets were over head high but the waves were big and fat. There was a short boarder who was at another break nearby, but probably saw how many waves we were on decided it was better where we were, so he paddled over (doesn't it always look better somewhere else?).

In the hour or so that the shorty was with us on our break, I didn't see him catch one wave in the countless waves Alan and I would ride past him. To be fair, I think if you were on a shortboard you really needed to have your wits about you and be extremely precise in where you took off to catch a wave, he just was never in the right place at the right time. On a sup it's a different story, you can plan and chase down these big fat ones far earlier.

My heart pumped piss for the poor sod, he was completely under resourced for the fat waves that were coming through. I could tell that he hated us, by the stink eye he would give us as we hollered as we tore past him, occasionally on party waves, with Alan to the right, and me on the left of him. We both thought about respect, but there was no point. Towards the end of our session, I just gave up and ignored him. At times while paddling past I kind of felt obliged to chat with him, but just couldn't be bothered.

Afterwards, I spoke with Alan about the guy and we had a good chuckle, he was still out there - dangling his legs in the water looking for sharks at sunset, while waiting for that wave - that never came - that one wave that would make the freezing wait in the water worthwhile.

Both of us subscribe to the Aloha spirit and all that, but in conclusion, this guy was just a bit of a waste of space - he was under resourced for the conditions, and in reality was really just a good obstacle to surf around.

To get back to the post, I don't think there are any hard rules - too many variables, you just play them as you go. As long as you are courteous and attempt to do the right thing by others.

Personally, I hate rules. That's why I sup and can choose breaks that others don't seem worthy of surfing.

Slightly off topic but also slightly on. One percent of stand up paddlers give the rest of us a bad rep by snaffeling every good wave that comes through because they can. The other ninety nine percent of us give stand up paddleing a bad rep because we catch waves that nobody else can, because we can, and they bloody well hate us for it!!!! Go figure?
Cheers
Sparx

Well said Sparx

For some of the other posts

I think the internet toughguy photo is about to make a comeback.

Sparx said...

Slightly off topic but also slightly on. One percent of stand up paddlers give the rest of us a bad rep by snaffeling every good wave that comes through because they can. The other ninety nine percent of us give stand up paddleing a bad rep because we catch waves that nobody else can, because we can, and they bloody well hate us for it!!!! Go figure?
Cheers
Sparx

Perfect

Makaha said...

hmm smart arse right or is that big left. have fun calling people waste of time,show some respect,just because we all cant be as good as you are.deal tickets for two,you and Al(sorry AL) my shout surf here,it will be a very short 10.6 second one before you get called to the beach for some ring action.so have you EVER been to the Islands,i think not

I'm having trouble understanding your post, Makaha - are you drinking or did you get on to the same "boys club" pills SurfAnimals took a while back?

Oh "big left" is the name of the break - it's not my name - it's the historic name of the break that we were at. It's actually a good right also.

makaha, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. I can't see anything disrespectful in olivers post.