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Sup decking over existing decking. reliable?

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Created by gregjet 24 days ago, 20 Jul 2020
gregjet
QLD, 27 posts
20 Jul 2020 7:28AM
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Bear with me a second.
At the risk of sounding a bit lazy ( I'm not), I have a new SIC RS 14footer and the desk pad is not grippy enough to allow me to move back confidently. Of all my boards this is the least grippy. Makes bouy turns on what is otherwise, THE most stable board I own, tricky. Tried my wet toe shoes but they are way too grippy.
I bought some more deck pad that I know is a nice grip level but before I strip the brand new deck off, Does anyone know if 3M decking will reliably stick on top of the existing " crocodile skin" ( I'm an ex NQ'er and that would be the smoothest croc skin I have ever seen), so I don't have to remove it?
The existing pad is VERY thin, which may be part of the problem ( less deflection to grip with). But that means that the new thicker stuff won't raise me too high to lose stability.
Anyone done this successfully?

DavidJohn
VIC, 16354 posts
20 Jul 2020 8:41AM
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Personally I don't see how your new "goldilocks" deck pad will stick to the existing deck pad.

I'm pretty sure you're going to have to totally remove the old pad and that's going to be a HUGE job.

Sometimes brand new board deck pads can feel a little slippery and once they've been in to sun and used for a while they become more grippy.

andypoz
QLD, 54 posts
20 Jul 2020 10:05AM
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Maybe just wax the old pad.

gregjet
QLD, 27 posts
20 Jul 2020 1:20PM
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DavidJohn said..
Personally I don't see how your new "goldilocks" deck pad will stick to the existing deck pad.

I'm pretty sure you're going to have to totally remove the old pad and that's going to be a HUGE job.

Sometimes brand new board deck pads can feel a little slippery and once they've been in to sun and used for a while they become more grippy.


I have replaced pads before. It's a pain but not difficult enough the stop me. I would only be replacing where I stand and move anyway, so not as gigantic as a total replace.
I thought it may have been a function of newness but it hasn't improved. I feared the new pad wouldn't stick but jic I put it out there for someone who has actually done to say "works" or "doesn't work".

Good pads don't need waxing that's the point. All my other boards have pads that work fine. Even my Starboard widepoint has a "crododile skin" that is simila,r but it is extremely good. Only the SIC one is not grippy enough. The SIC one is very thin ( 2mm? 2.5mm?)

colas
3942 posts
20 Jul 2020 1:06PM
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No. Pad on pad will NOT stick.

Rather than wax, you can just add some spray-on grip on top of the existing pad. Less messy and more permanent than wax, just a light layer is sufficient.

supthecreek
2012 posts
20 Jul 2020 8:32PM
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Nothing better than a challenge!
Strip the board, make it look new.... then add your pad.
I will make you

beefarmer
WA, 276 posts
20 Jul 2020 9:33PM
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Ive been wondering the same, but for kiting, not sup, where i get bruised/sore heels bouncing over chop all the time and a slightly thicker / cusioning pad would help

I figure you could stick pad to pad with the right contact adhesive and the right surface prep, if the 2nd pad stick isnt strong enough alone. but havent actually tried this yet.

Colas you seem to know more than I do on this subject, is this a stupid idea?

warwickl
NSW, 1464 posts
21 Jul 2020 7:52AM
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I have a SIC RS 14 x 26 year 2020 and no problem but I do not race.

gregjet
QLD, 27 posts
21 Jul 2020 8:47AM
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Warwikl, It is worst on bouy turns , which I assume you don't bother with if you are not racing, but are critical racing and training.

Thanks Colas, I suspected it may be a problem. Any brand and/or location of spray on grip? I will prob go the strip and replace route though. The SIC is painted and a spray may have incomparible VOC's and screw the already disintegrating paint ( it is a very non hard wearing finish)).

gregjet
QLD, 27 posts
21 Jul 2020 3:41PM
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Bit the bullet and stripped the offending deck areas and replaced it with the pyramid texture thicker stuff.
Not my favourite job but I have the tools.







The stock deck was ridiculosly thin ( 1 or 2mm).
Thanks for any input folks.

colas
3942 posts
21 Jul 2020 3:00PM
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beefarmer said..
Colas you seem to know more than I do on this subject, is this a stupid idea?



I have added arches by sticking them on another pad. It works at first, but it does not last long. I guess since the bottom pad underneath flexes a bit underfoot, the movements end up unglueing the top pad eventually.

gregjet
QLD, 27 posts
23 Jul 2020 6:08AM
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colas said..


I have added arches by sticking them on another pad. It works at first, but it does not last long. I guess since the bottom pad underneath flexes a bit underfoot, the movements end up unglueing the top pad eventually.


For adding closed cell foam ( not pre-adhesive type), there is a product called Shoo Goo. It is insanely strong, flexible and completely waterproof. Takes a little practice to use cleanly but , it will stick things like raisers etc made of closed cell foam permanently. Needs a couple of days to set though.

colas
3942 posts
23 Jul 2020 1:59PM
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gregjet said..
there is a product called Shoo Goo. It is insanely strong, flexible and completely waterproof.


Yes, it works quite well for repairing bodyboards too.
Or you can use urethane glues such as the Gorilla glue.

But for small area patches such as risers, it is much easier to just put the riser on top of the pad, draw its outline, cut the existing pad, remove it with a scraper, and just stick the riser on top of the existing glue without bothering removing it. This is what I ended up doing for adding arches.



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