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laurie
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17 Dec 2009 1:02pm
This from the "Byron News"

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"Her left heel was smashed on a rock trying to avoid being hit in the head by a stand-up paddleboard."


Thanks to an inexperienced stand-up paddleboard rider and another surfer on a hire surfboard, Byron Bay's Deb Tinker now has a big steel plate and eight screws in her left foot - and many months of painful rehabilitation in front of her.

Wedged in by the stand-up paddler who had dropped in on her and the other surfer who had 'snaked' her after she had caught a wave out the back during a session at The Pass a month ago, the bone in her heel was shattered on a rock after she jumped off her board in shallow water to avoid being cracked across the head by the out-of-control and very big stand-up board.

"I hit the rock square on my heel and it felt like a sledgehammer," she said.

Ambulance

"I knew it was smashed straight away. It was extreme, intense pain. I was screaming in pain.

"I managed to lie on my board and tried to paddle to shore, but the stand-up paddler couldn't control his board and it was on top of me.

"He had no control over it at all.

"I let my board go when it was shallow enough to crawl out on my hands and knees.

"I was screaming out in pain. There were people on their daily walk and they just kept walking.

"Two nice young American guys came to my rescue and asked if they could help me out of the water. They sat with me until the ambulance came."

To his credit, the stand-up paddler apologised and asked if he could do anything to help.

After initial treatment at Byron Bay Hospital, Deb spent 12 days in Lismore Base Hospital before being able to hobble out on crutches.

And she said it would be another three months before she would be able to put her heel on the ground.

It's a major blow to the mother of three - two still at school - who has been surfing for 20 years, 15 of them competitively.

She was planning to defend the State over 35s longboard title she won this year at Coffs Harbour in June next year, but there's a cloud over that now. More importantly, her lack of mobility is also impacting on her fledgling surfboard coffee table business.

Unhappily, injuries to surfers at The Pass are not uncommon. Fights, physical and verbal, are also not uncommon, especially on big days. Many of the injuries, said Deb, were caused by inexperienced surfers and learners on hire boards who knew nothing about surfing etiquette.

Local board hire operators, as a matter of course, should tell learners to avoid the popular breaks and also tell them the basics of surfing etiquette, she said.

However, the emergence of stand-up paddleboards had added a new dimension to potential conflicts at local breaks, particularly The Pass.

Deb said that because of their size, inexperienced people hiring stand-up boards should be made to have at least one lesson before heading out into the surf and be told to stay well away from popular breaks.

She said because of the size of stand-up boards, maritime authorities also should look at requiring stand-up surfers to have a small-craft recreational licence before they took their boards into the surf.
"I appreciate people have to learn," she said.

"But you really have to learn away from the best spots to earn your stripes in the line-up."

Longboard coach Ben Bennink, who with his wife Yoko runs the In Byron Bay Today web site, was at The Pass the day Deb was injured and noted the increasing number of beginners on hire boards in the line-up.

It was an accident and accidents did happen in the surf, said Ben, but there were deeper underlying issues 'often spoken of quietly in the car park at The Pass and occasionally loudly with the frustration born of near misses and the fear of injury'.

Ben said anyone planning to hire a board who couldn't honestly answer yes to any of the questions had no business paddling out into crowded surf and putting themselves and other surfers in danger.

He said learners had to understand it was not about surfer hierarchy, but public safety.

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www.byronnews.com.au/news/call-curbs-stand-boards/429358/
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A revelant article to read for all newbies in the surf:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/Kook-or-Kool--Your-first-go-in-the-surf_2965007.aspx

surfanimal
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17 Dec 2009 2:37pm
The Pass is a nightmare for any surfer, totally overcrowded with hungry holidaymakers and locals alike.

Deb's a nice lady and a lovely artist, it's a shame for her although the article is totally dramatised and this statement IMO is totally uncalled for;

She was planning to defend the State over 35s longboard title she won this year at Coffs Harbour in June next year, but there’s a cloud over that now. More importantly, her lack of mobility is also impacting on her fledgling surfboard coffee table business.

Why a newby or surf school would enter the surf zone at The Pass is crazy. It's a big beach and Clarkes is a perfect learner spot. The etiquette signs in the area don't seem to be enough, maybe Council need to look at a 'lifeguard / surf patrol' set up at spots like The Pass / Noosa / Snapper etc to ensure the safety of all and ensure surf zones are controlled and kooks are not in an experienced take off zone.










CMC
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17 Dec 2009 2:00pm
Riding SUP at the pass is the equivalent of driving a Mack Truck at 80kmh through a shopping mall where the shoppers have blindfolds no idea of how to get out of the way!
pmorgan1974
pmorgan1974
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17 Dec 2009 3:13pm
the small craft license idea is very uncool. but I agree that place like the pass when crowded is no place for a SUP. Although after working up there, i would say the tourists on the hire boards are far more dangerous..
appsy
appsy
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17 Dec 2009 4:08pm
Stand up paddle boards shouldnt be hired out unless in flatwater conditions or with an instructor.Its the surf hire companys fault for giving a learner a sup and then letting them go out in a crowded spot.

Once again, a spot that I would love to sup has been ruined. I can just imagine the welcome you would get now. If it was the south coast you wouldnt even want to get out of your car.
pmorgan1974 said...

the small craft license idea is very uncool. but I agree that place like the pass when crowded is no place for a SUP. Although after working up there, i would say the tourists on the hire boards are far more dangerous..


Brooko
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17 Dec 2009 1:23pm
It was only a matter of time, next time someone will be killed by an inexpeirenced person a sub
This is the one and only thing i dont like about subs is that a person who has not done an grommethood in the water can learn to paddle in flatwater and next minute there out at a crowded regional classic somewhere (not that the pass is) weilding there 10 ft board and no knowledge all over the place.

Learners on a shortboard a real danger as well, but not as bad as the learners on a huge ocean liner.

I think it should be made some sort of rule that anyone selling subs to obvious newbies goes well out of there way to strees the point "not to go out in crowded waves" for at least 2yrs (unless they come from surfing background and know what there doing) Then how could you prove it ??

I know its going to be hard to police but if something is not done soon what is starting to happen in Maui will happen here, where subs will just be totally black banned from certain breaks because of all the trouble kooks are causing
Brooko
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17 Dec 2009 1:33pm
On another note the board license thing is pretty silly, i have an 8 6" smaller than the board she rides, so is she suggesting all 9 ft plus mal riders will need a small craft licsense
Diver
Diver
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17 Dec 2009 2:30pm
Pity that there was an injury and hopefully she will recover and be back out there soon.

Regulation and licensing? Seems a bit over the top.

How about a bit more education and responsibility taken by those hiring them out.

Something along the lines of....

Do you know how to SUP / surf? or How long have you been SUP / surfing for? If not enough experience - or decent truthful answers to the questions - then they shouldn't get the board to go out.
CMC
CMC
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17 Dec 2009 5:05pm
Expecting people to tell the truth about their own abilities is like a woman asking a man about the size of you know what and expecting a truthful answer.......

It will not happen.
paul.j
paul.j
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17 Dec 2009 5:10pm
We hire SUP's out all the time. The key is to have good rules in place, our number one rule is NO WAVE USE sup's must stay in the flat water and i have to say it works pretty good. There is no reason a first timer should be in the waves and if people are hiring boards to people to go in the waves they must have to charge them heaps as the damage they will do to the board is more than the hire cost.

My thoughts anyway
paul.j
paul.j
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17 Dec 2009 5:11pm
CMC said...

Expecting people to tell the truth about their own abilities is like a woman asking a man about the size of you know what and expecting a truthful answer.......

It will not happen.


9 1/2 inc
Gorgo
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17 Dec 2009 6:42pm
I am guessing the worst offenders would have to be the semi-experienced surfers.

Surely most total beginners would take one look at a half-decent wave and run for their lives. Even a waist high peeler can be a scary beast if it is pitching at you and you don't know what to do.
laceys lane
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17 Dec 2009 5:44pm
Gorgo said...

I am guessing the worst offenders would have to be the semi-experienced surfers.

Surely most total beginners would take one look at a half-decent wave and run for their lives. Even a waist high peeler can be a scary beast if it is pitching at you and you don't know what to do.


i've been surfing all my life just about and stayed well away from other people when i first ventured out in the surf. i just knew i would be trouble around anybody
cheers
firstpoint
firstpoint
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17 Dec 2009 6:58pm
shallow water over rocks,first rule never go in feet or head first,look at the damage a step off has done to this "experienced" surfer.
inexperienced sup are all over the place at the moment,we even have inexperienced (non surfing background)instructors teaching sup surf,the media are going to beat this up in byron bay and blame sup for every nasty that happens.
jacko's flat water rule is a good step but that is just one of many hire places,there are four or five in noosa that just let them go anywhere and tho they ask if they sup the answer is always yes "I RIP",imagine the carnage sup will cause this cyclone season.
tha dogman
tha dogman
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17 Dec 2009 8:57pm
just another story that will taint sup forever and drive a few more nails into the coffin for crew to bag the sh1t out of it

the blame should go back on the crew that hired it

in saying that........

jacko's policy is the go "only fatwater use"

i have a more "extreme policy" that i "dont hire my boards fullstop"

one reason is that all it takes is 1 incident like this or even worse hitting some young kids and it will ruin every little bit of good will and good faith work we all have done over the years ( well maybe some of us.......ok everyone else other than me )

as well as the boards just get destroyed and they come back saying say "but i didn't do that"yer sure you didnt


billboard
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17 Dec 2009 9:03pm
If shops are going to hire out sups in Byron - where, other than surf or open water are they going to paddle them ? Belongil creek maybe ??
I have lost count of the amount of beginners and others on mals at the pass who have snaked/dropped in on and ran into other surfers and swimmers. This is a very unfortunate accident but it could just have easily been a 10ft longboard running over a swimmer slicing them into pieces and no one would have called for a general lynching of longboarders at the pass would they. The pass and the alley and places like them are notorious for all types of watercraft and all types of careless and reckless behaviour and they are only going to get worse. I personally believe that if it makes you angry and you don't have a good time because of the attitude or lack of ettiquite on these popular point breaks then stay away from them because you just know that when you surf there someone or something is gunna p#ss you off and it's just gunna wreck the whole session for you. It is just an unfortunate fact of surfing life that these soft point breaks are going to be a mecca for the beginner surfer and paddler and there are going to be accidents and incidents. The only way we can control the beginner (non surfing) sup'er I think is to politely educate them if we are out there with them and if they are struggling and let them know in no uncertain terms that they should be out wide or point out a safe spot inside near the beach where they can practice without hurting themselves or someone else. We were all out there struggling less than two seasons ago so lets not get too high and mighty now - if someone on a sup looks like they could use a hand or advice - give it to them, cos the quicker they figure it out the quicker they will become less of a hazard.
Bnaccas
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18 Dec 2009 1:18am
Just to clear something up, a mate from Byron told me this guy wasn't on a hire SUP. But he wasn't the
most experienced guy in the water either.

The article doesn't actually say it either but I think they are talking about more hired mals/soft tops being
in the line-up lately. Depends how you read it I guess. But either way, there needs to be guidelines for any
hirer of SUB's and also for the person hiring.
Jon E B
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18 Dec 2009 4:24am
May she mend well and quickly.
OG SUP
OG SUP
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18 Dec 2009 9:02am
The influx of SUPs up and down the West Coast has been amazing in the last 2 - 3 months. I always talk to those on SUPs around me in the line up to get an idea of who they are etc and just to make polite conversation.

On the last 5 outings at OG MB I have spoken to 9 people who have never supped before usually with paddles back the front and no concept of how to catch a wave ploughing through the crowd like shrapnel.

We have some basic rules that everyone trys to adhere to which is, if your a beginner stay to the left of the boat ramp until you have control over what ever craft you ride.

What has amazed me is the total arrogance and aggresiveness of the new crew in the water. When you politely point out that it is safer for all concerned on such a crowded beach to SUP out of others way past the ramp you are told to stand in the far cue.

Recently I watch as Session was almost killed or badly injured at PRK by 2 totally inexperienced surfers one on a mal the other on a 12ft sup who bracketed him in the middle and then converged.

Session very politely expressed his thoughts to the sup rider who was so clearly out of his depth in OH+ waves only to be threatened in return.

I watched from the shoulder as this guy riding a stable table almost took out 4 other surfers on succesive waves, paddle flailing around spearing his board off in all directions.

I cant wait for summer, they should just park an ambulance on the ramp all day.

Phill



loco4olas
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18 Dec 2009 10:38am
OG SUP said...

The influx of SUPs up and down the West Coast has been amazing in the last 2 - 3 months. I always talk to those on SUPs around me in the line up to get an idea of who they are etc and just to make polite conversation.

On the last 5 outings at OG MB I have spoken to 9 people who have never supped before usually with paddles back the front and no concept of how to catch a wave ploughing through the crowd like shrapnel.

We have some basic rules that everyone trys to adhere to which is, if your a beginner stay to the left of the boat ramp until you have control over what ever craft you ride.

What has amazed me is the total arrogance and aggresiveness of the new crew in the water. When you politely point out that it is safer for all concerned on such a crowded beach to SUP out of others way past the ramp you are told to stand in the far cue.

Recently I watch as Session was almost killed or badly injured at PRK by 2 totally inexperienced surfers one on a mal the other on a 12ft sup who bracketed him in the middle and then converged.

Session very politely expressed his thoughts to the sup rider who was so clearly out of his depth in OH+ waves only to be threatened in return.

I watched from the shoulder as this guy riding a stable table almost took out 4 other surfers on succesive waves, paddle flailing around spearing his board off in all directions.

I cant wait for summer, they should just park an ambulance on the ramp all day.

Phill






No wonder surfers get the sh$ts with SUPs and clown stickers are showing up.
rodriguez
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18 Dec 2009 11:17am
It's seriously easy to get hurt at the pass riding any surf craft,once the surf gets overhead.I have surfed there when it's 2-3 ft and its just mellow,soon as it gets up in size so does everyones agro.Most of the locals who sup seem to go around to Wategos,maybe so should the newbies?I hope the lady recovers well, and soon.
laurie said...

This from the "Byron News"

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"Her left heel was smashed on a rock trying to avoid being hit in the head by a stand-up paddleboard."


Thanks to an inexperienced stand-up paddleboard rider and another surfer on a hire surfboard, Byron Bay's Deb Tinker now has a big steel plate and eight screws in her left foot - and many months of painful rehabilitation in front of her.

Wedged in by the stand-up paddler who had dropped in on her and the other surfer who had 'snaked' her after she had caught a wave out the back during a session at The Pass a month ago, the bone in her heel was shattered on a rock after she jumped off her board in shallow water to avoid being cracked across the head by the out-of-control and very big stand-up board.

"I hit the rock square on my heel and it felt like a sledgehammer," she said.

Ambulance

"I knew it was smashed straight away. It was extreme, intense pain. I was screaming in pain.

"I managed to lie on my board and tried to paddle to shore, but the stand-up paddler couldn't control his board and it was on top of me.

"He had no control over it at all.

"I let my board go when it was shallow enough to crawl out on my hands and knees.

"I was screaming out in pain. There were people on their daily walk and they just kept walking.

"Two nice young American guys came to my rescue and asked if they could help me out of the water. They sat with me until the ambulance came."

To his credit, the stand-up paddler apologised and asked if he could do anything to help.

After initial treatment at Byron Bay Hospital, Deb spent 12 days in Lismore Base Hospital before being able to hobble out on crutches.

And she said it would be another three months before she would be able to put her heel on the ground.

It's a major blow to the mother of three - two still at school - who has been surfing for 20 years, 15 of them competitively.

She was planning to defend the State over 35s longboard title she won this year at Coffs Harbour in June next year, but there's a cloud over that now. More importantly, her lack of mobility is also impacting on her fledgling surfboard coffee table business.

Unhappily, injuries to surfers at The Pass are not uncommon. Fights, physical and verbal, are also not uncommon, especially on big days. Many of the injuries, said Deb, were caused by inexperienced surfers and learners on hire boards who knew nothing about surfing etiquette.

Local board hire operators, as a matter of course, should tell learners to avoid the popular breaks and also tell them the basics of surfing etiquette, she said.

However, the emergence of stand-up paddleboards had added a new dimension to potential conflicts at local breaks, particularly The Pass.

Deb said that because of their size, inexperienced people hiring stand-up boards should be made to have at least one lesson before heading out into the surf and be told to stay well away from popular breaks.

She said because of the size of stand-up boards, maritime authorities also should look at requiring stand-up surfers to have a small-craft recreational licence before they took their boards into the surf.
"I appreciate people have to learn," she said.

"But you really have to learn away from the best spots to earn your stripes in the line-up."

Longboard coach Ben Bennink, who with his wife Yoko runs the In Byron Bay Today web site, was at The Pass the day Deb was injured and noted the increasing number of beginners on hire boards in the line-up.

It was an accident and accidents did happen in the surf, said Ben, but there were deeper underlying issues 'often spoken of quietly in the car park at The Pass and occasionally loudly with the frustration born of near misses and the fear of injury'.

Ben said anyone planning to hire a board who couldn't honestly answer yes to any of the questions had no business paddling out into crowded surf and putting themselves and other surfers in danger.

He said learners had to understand it was not about surfer hierarchy, but public safety.

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www.byronnews.com.au/news/call-curbs-stand-boards/429358/
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A revelant article to read for all newbies in the surf:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/Kook-or-Kool--Your-first-go-in-the-surf_2965007.aspx




CorkyKid
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21 Dec 2009 1:10pm
I hope she mends quickly. Tough being kept out of the water, no matter what equipment you ride.

Seems like everyone is on a similar page with their thoughts, education and tolerance of all riders. To say it is just beginner SUPs is tough. Over the many years of surfing I have been dropped in on by more experienced surfers than beginners at these types of breaks. Check out the drop ins taking place in the shots!

The 'flatwater only' idea with beginners does have alot of merit!

snappy
snappy
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21 Dec 2009 11:07pm
Probably one of the worst injuries you can have as far as rehabilitation.
I hope she recovers soon.
I've had a few injuries at the Pass from mals over the years,must be
frustrating being a local with all the action in the break.
Good place to visit for a short while.

keilani
keilani
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29 Dec 2009 5:10pm
Its really not about what sort of board you are on but your ability to ride it,i remember when Deb was learning to surf her mal,(or she always looked like she was learning,a little better now) many a time at the pass and i was always very aware to stay out of her way after seeing and experiencing some not so confident and often quite danger to others riding on her behalf.
In these crowded places surfers need to be aware of their own and their boards limitations,also at the pass i was badly hit in the back( missed my spine by half inch,out for a month) by a surfer on a plank of wood no fin ,no legrope in conditions that were ant nest crowded to say the least.
Out of control sup/mal/short riders are a threat to everyone,and you could say stay away when conditions are dangerous but its the nature of the surfer when they see a great wave to get out there,it really should be up to the less than average surfer to surf down the line where they are less of a threat.
Unfortunately a lot of people's ability doesn't match their perception of their ability,especially backpackers! in byron anyway.
Daneli
Daneli
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29 Dec 2009 6:13pm
Just some feedback - I am a 20 year surfer who is now seriously considering SUP which is why I am following this forum. I know the rules for Surfing but is SUP any different? Are there any extras or specific etiquitte?

As someone new to this site I couldn't clearly see a set of rules or Etiquitte posted anywhere on the 1st page (or should I have a mummy look?).

Maybe someone could post some concise info that can be left at the top of the threads?

Thanks



keilani
keilani
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29 Dec 2009 6:25pm
same rules as surfing but the best rule is know your own limitations and surf where and when appropriate .
Daneli
Daneli
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1 Jan 2010 6:30am
I just found this on the PSH website which I thought was good reading! It has been cut & pasted.



How are you representing Stand Up Paddle Surfing?
Are you Dangerous to others? Are you a WAVE HOG?

When Beach Boy surfing, there are Kool things and things that make you a huge KOOK!

This section is dedicated to Kook & Kool!

1. You paddle out floundering to a lineup with surfers. You can barely stay standing but proceed right into or outside of the lineup. You paddle for waves while people scramble out of your way only to fall off before you can even get on the wave.... Your big board becomes an extremely dangerous projectile... Kook alert!! KOOK!! KOOK!! KOOK!! KOOK!!

2. You can barely stay standing so you practice in an area where no one is around that you could endanger or bum out. You care about the world wide effects of SUP surfing so you paddle and surf with Aloha. Very Kool!!

3. You start to get the hang of it and want to surf better waves so you decide to surf a more popular spot. You paddle out and stand outside everyone. The sets come and you paddle in like a locomotive right thru the pack. You get waves in every set... KOOK!!

4. You start to get the hang of it and want to surf better waves so you decide to surf a more popular spot. You paddle out and check out the situation. You see waves off to the side that a lot less people go for. You catch a few of those... Since you don't want to wear out your welcome, you decide to catch only a few set waves at most. You surf with Aloha.... Kool!

5. You paddle out on an in-consistent day to a crowded spot. You stand outside everyone the whole duration of the lulls. You never sit down so you tower over others the whole time... You make sure you catch a wave from every set. KOOK!

6. You paddle out on an in-consistent day to a crowded spot. You feel like you're on stage so you stand off to the side or sit down between sets because you don't like blocking everyone's view of the beautiful ocean. You catch a couple waves then move to the inside or on to another spot or just paddle around because you figured out how to surf with Aloha... KOOL!!

7. You're pretty good and can get in and around the surf well... You surf crowded spots and catch all the waves you can. Small ones, set waves etc. Because you can surf good you get plenty waves. You're always calling people off your waves. You just can't help yourself to sit sets out so you basically take over the spot for the duration of your surf. HUGE SELFISH KOOK!!!!!!!!

8. You're pretty good and can get in and around the surf well... You go to a crowded spot and check out what's going on. You see some of the lesser quality waves going un-ridden and surf those. You catch a ton of waves but ones that no one really wants. You paddle out and get a few set waves but you make sure others get waves by quietly cluing them in to incoming sets. You become a quiet spotter of sorts for others to score good waves.... You always sit out a few sets. You use your high vantage point to stoke others out. KOOL!! (When you arrive and it's already crowded NOT GOING OUT THERE is the KOOLEST!)

9. You see how cool SUP surfing is because you can paddle fast and want to get back at those greedy longboarders. You decide to get into it to take over and be the dominent surfer at any spot at any time. Do the entire surfing world a favor and don't get into it. You are the biggest KOOK!!!!!!

10. You see how cool SUP surfing is because you can do something that is a challenge, get great exercise, paddle far up the coast at will, have a blast riding waves you never thought would be fun, discover new spots, like to enjoy the comraderie of the SUP surfers around the world. KOOL!!

Note:
If there are more than one of you SUP surfing, everything becomes doubled, tripled, quadrupled, etc.
Avoid heavy rotations with other SUP surfers when surfing with others.

Be aware of your actions and the actions of others. BE KOOL!


Cheers
surfanimal
surfanimal
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1 Jan 2010 12:22pm
I was recently talking to Bob Kennerson in Crescent Head and as a stoked 70 something surfer and recent SUP'per his rules were;

Paddle in the River 10 times before attempting to ride on the beach.

First beach session be sure to be way away from ANYONE.

After that first session, you'll realise how bad you are and how hard it is so get back on the River for the next 5 sessions.

BY then, you'll be smart enough to know your limitations and use some common sense.

Wise words I thought.
billboard
billboard
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1 Jan 2010 12:01pm
Personally I am getting a bit tired of the whole sup bashing theme that is running riot at the moment. The only thing that has changed in the lineup is that instead of shortboarders and mal riders and goat boaters hating each other they now all have a new common enemy and will take any chance to have a shot at the sups. Yes there are some mindless morons on sups, both new and experieced too. Have you all forgotten how many more morons there are out there on the other surfcraft causing havic in the lineup ?? When we started supping 2+years ago we pretty much all started in the surf and we all had a great time falling off and laughing at each other and generally hanging s#it and really just enjoying the fun and challenges of sup. Christ,now in the lineup if someone falls off we look at them like they shouldn't be out there and how dare they kook a wave and blah blah blah. We have short memories some of us and we just need to chill out and help each other out and bring back the sup stoke that attracted us to start with.
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