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SECARTERMUSS
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62mac
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22 Jan 2013 5:51am
Last week it was boot camps over crowding the Alley now sup,what's next.Its such a lovely area and the people that I know who use it would be respectful.
The learn to surf schools need a permit which is monitored be the council.

Is it really this bad or just another beat up be the reporters?
Swanie
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22 Jan 2013 8:05am
Spent the last four days there surfing with my children and really saw no issue above what is normal in any line up.
angie pangi
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22 Jan 2013 8:26am
Yep been waiting for this.

If think it is a bit of a beat up as u can't operate or take cash in gccc land anyways.

If u wanna avoid the cowboys and deal with someone Gold Coast City Council approved then contact Roar Industries 55 257 003

Roar runs the GCCC Fit and Active lifestyle programs but u do have to book it in.

No hire of sup boards in waves with roar!

There should never be anyone hiring sup boards out for wave use and hopefully there never will be.
We are always getting the council coming around checking in what we are doing so if someone is doing it with out permision then they will get caught.

Cheers angie

teatrea
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22 Jan 2013 8:43am
Just another outstanding piece of journalism from the esteemed bulletin.
Piros
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22 Jan 2013 2:01pm
It's all you bloody races......... yeah another piece of sh!t journo work. I think they have just jumped on the back of the PT groups in the parks drama.

The whole area should be 6 knots , that would solve many issues.
chrispychru
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22 Jan 2013 2:06pm
well i think they should stick to the personal trainer line.....those tight arses should be paying money. [}:)]
BennyB12
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22 Jan 2013 2:30pm
Piros said...


The whole area should be 6 knots , that would solve many issues.


The whole area is six knots, isn't it?
62mac
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22 Jan 2013 12:33pm
BennyB12 said...
Piros said...


The whole area should be 6 knots , that would solve many issues.


The whole area is six knots, isn't it?


only when Lacey is paddling
E T
E T
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22 Jan 2013 2:46pm
Geez Mac, I think you deserve a bowl of full cream milk for that one.
ET
LogeiaLad
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22 Jan 2013 4:23pm
Just a clarification please Angie re hiring of a board from you. Do you specify that it can't be used in the surf? I may not be the greatest surfer but have been involved for many years & know the unwritten rules - and my limitations. Or is it just to keep tourists out of the line-up?
angie pangi
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22 Jan 2013 5:38pm
LogeiaLad said...
Just a clarification please Angie re hiring of a board from you. Do you specify that it can't be used in the surf? I may not be the greatest surfer but have been involved for many years & know the unwritten rules - and my limitations. Or is it just to keep tourists out of the line-up?


Hi Mate,

Yep sorry we don't let any of our Hire / Rental boards in surf, flat water hire only and they sign paper work that states it.
Even with our Demo sup board we are very select who takes them out and must already have a sup themselves but are looking to try out something new.
This way we keep the locals happy.
I could only imagine the chaos if we let our 30 boards out there and all the other hire places let their boards out aswell. would be well over 70 boards out there!! NUTS

X angie
OG SUP
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22 Jan 2013 6:48pm
angie pangi said...
Yep been waiting for this.

If think it is a bit of a beat up as u can't operate or take cash in gccc land anyways.

If u wanna avoid the cowboys and deal with someone Gold Coast City Council approved then contact Roar Industries 55 257 003

Roar runs the GCCC Fit and Active lifestyle programs but u do have to book it in.

No hire of sup boards in waves with roar!

There should never be anyone hiring sup boards out for wave use and hopefully there never will be.
We are always getting the council coming around checking in what we are doing so if someone is doing it with out permision then they will get caught.

Cheers angie




I dont like what I see with lots of SUP and down this way Surf hire by a long shot and even a lot of the basic instruction sucks big time!

But

Even at the Alley someone traveling from interstate who knows what they are doing should have options to hire a SUP if they want to or snap a board and need to!

If you don't or any other shop doesn't know the punter maybe even put in a requirement to have a paid lesson (makes the shop some coin) before a proposed hire to do an assessment and provide insight into local protocols or local knowledge.

Cart blanch ban doesn't fix it IMO.





aus301
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22 Jan 2013 6:33pm
OG SUP said...
angie pangi said...


There should never be anyone hiring sup boards out for wave use and hopefully there never will be.





Even at the Alley someone traveling from interstate who knows what they are doing should have options to hire a SUP if they want to or snap a board and need to!




I agree with Angie and the crew at Roar 100% on this one, the Alley and most Goldy Beaches are way too busy already. There are already stories of the mess hire SUPs are making in the line up at Byron. If you want to SUP an over populated area, you should probably do it on your own board.

The guys that are good, and known can usually organise a loan of a board anyways.
doggie
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22 Jan 2013 4:53pm
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?

YES

Three guys down at scabs that didnt have a clue in a busy line up and it was obvious that they didnt own the boards, no one got hurt while I was there but one of them nearly fell on a longboarder
mbuzz
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22 Jan 2013 8:35pm
doggie said...
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?


I think there should be something done regarding sup rentals (but I'll include surfboards rentals in that as well).

I mentioned this in another thread, but a local sup hire place in Manly, is renting sups out to complete novices and then sending them to fairy bower to catch waves. If you don't know fairy bower, it's a point break where a rock ledge meets rocky boulders, that in big surf or low tides results in big rocks appearing out of the water in front of you as your taking off or trying to make a sections. Needless to say, not a good spot to send people to try and catch waves on their knees, or send your girlfriend in her big straw hat, as I observed on my last visit!

I work part time as a SUP instructor (flat water only) and from people I have spoken to in the industry, it seems a lot of people go down the hire route as the regulations and paperwork are easier than for someone running lessons and therefore anyone with a bit of cash and no care for public safety can set up a hire business.•

• disclaimer – there are plenty of reputable businesses out there hiring stuff and giving people good safety briefings and restrictions that are aimed at keeping them out of harms way, so this is only directed at the few that are not and giving the whole sport a bad name.

p.s. did I mention surfboard hire ; )
laceys lane
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22 Jan 2013 7:55pm
62mac said...
BennyB12 said...
Piros said...


The whole area should be 6 knots , that would solve many issues.


The whole area is six knots, isn't it?


only when Lacey is paddling



haha. bet that felt good hey mac.

must have been sweating on that.

i've been on a roll in the lbr in regards to giving you a bit of lip so when i saw the post i knew something was coming my way.


till we meet again
doggie
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22 Jan 2013 5:57pm
mbuzz said...
doggie said...
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?


I think there should be something done regarding sup rentals (but I'll include surfboards rentals in that as well).

I mentioned this in another thread, but a local sup hire place in Manly, is renting sups out to complete novices and then sending them to fairy bower to catch waves. If you don't know fairy bower, it's a point break where a rock ledge meets rocky boulders, that in big surf or low tides results in big rocks appearing out of the water in front of you as your taking off or trying to make a sections. Needless to say, not a good spot to send people to try and catch waves on their knees, or send your girlfriend in her big straw hat, as I observed on my last visit!

I work part time as a SUP instructor (flat water only) and from people I have spoken to in the industry, it seems a lot of people go down the hire route as the regulations and paperwork are easier than for someone running lessons and therefore anyone with a bit of cash and no care for public safety can set up a hire business.•

• disclaimer – there are plenty of reputable businesses out there hiring stuff and giving people good safety briefings and restrictions that are aimed at keeping them out of harms way, so this is only directed at the few that are not and giving the whole sport a bad name.

p.s. did I mention mal hire ; )


62mac
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22 Jan 2013 6:15pm
One things for sure you DO NOT want another Byron Bay that place is crazy on any day.Back Packers hiring boards left right and centre just madness.
Good to hear some people are doing the right thing even tho it is costing them money.

Oh yes Lacey I owe you a few more
Adapt
Adapt
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22 Jan 2013 10:15pm
The alley is not the only place now, SUP hire has started at Talley as well and that's dangerous with all the ski boats screaming around. I think one particular business has alot to answer for imo, considering its the same business that has alot of business occuring in currumbin creek and has now set up shop in the back of the Talley caravan park. Bit of a shame one person or group of people can give a complete community a bad name/wrap
SeatrekIII
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22 Jan 2013 11:06pm
mbuzz said...
doggie said...
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?


I think there should be something done regarding sup rentals (but I'll include surfboards rentals in that as well).

I mentioned this in another thread, but a local sup hire place in Manly, is renting sups out to complete novices and then sending them to fairy bower to catch waves. If you don't know fairy bower, it's a point break where a rock ledge meets rocky boulders, that in big surf or low tides results in big rocks appearing out of the water in front of you as your taking off or trying to make a sections. Needless to say, not a good spot to send people to try and catch waves on their knees, or send your girlfriend in her big straw hat, as I observed on my last visit!

I work part time as a SUP instructor (flat water only) and from people I have spoken to in the industry, it seems a lot of people go down the hire route as the regulations and paperwork are easier than for someone running lessons and therefore anyone with a bit of cash and no care for public safety can set up a hire business.•

• disclaimer – there are plenty of reputable businesses out there hiring stuff and giving people good safety briefings and restrictions that are aimed at keeping them out of harms way, so this is only directed at the few that are not and giving the whole sport a bad name.

p.s. did I mention surfboard hire ; )


Yes who is hiring SUPs to complete novices at Manly? I had mine dinged by a knee paddler at Fairy Bower on the weekend it's madness, luckily it was only my board it could of been worse someone could of been hurt.
petedorries
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23 Jan 2013 8:48am
Adapt said...
The alley is not the only place now, SUP hire has started at Talley as well and that's dangerous with all the ski boats screaming around. I think one particular business has alot to answer for imo, considering its the same business that has alot of business occuring in currumbin creek and has now set up shop in the back of the Talley caravan park. Bit of a shame one person or group of people can give a complete community a bad name/wrap


I heard the council told them to p*##off a couple of weeks ago. Are they back.
mbuzz
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23 Jan 2013 10:07am
SeatrekIII said...

Yes who is hiring SUPs to complete novices at Manly? I had mine dinged by a knee paddler at Fairy Bower on the weekend it's madness, luckily it was only my board it could of been worse someone could of been hurt.



www.facebook.com/pages/Sea-Poppy-Shelly-Beach-Paddle-Board-Co/498999350127775
BennyB12
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23 Jan 2013 10:04am
doggie said...
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?

YES

Three guys down at scabs that didnt have a clue in a busy line up and it was obvious that they didnt own the boards, no one got hurt while I was there but one of them nearly fell on a longboarder


So no one got hurt and a long boarder nearly got fell on and your calling for a nation wide ban on hire? Why not a global ban?
Sandsy1
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23 Jan 2013 11:30am
Interesting post.
I can understand why sup novices and beginners want to hit the waves. That first slide along the wall YEW!!
I'm new to SUP, with over 40 years of surfing behind me and waiting on a hip replacement, my wife got me into SUPping as I couldn't get up quick enough, any more. (She got sick of me whinging). Practiced on flat water, then in semi-protected bays, then finally a couple of slow point breaks when no one was around. I am still learning. Once on the wave no probs, it's all the other stuff. It's not as easy as it looks and I think that is the problem. People who have no surf experience, but can paddle on flat water, after a few lessons they want to get out there!
As I said I can't blame them. But I have noticed that a few of the schools put the surf as the ultimate result, the thing to aim for.
I've seen some ugly spills, particularly face plants on the deck, but beginners in the surf are beginners no matter what they ride, it's just that SUPs are so freakin big!! What is it, 10' board, 10' leg rope, 20' kill zone. Watch out!!!!
LogeiaLad
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23 Jan 2013 11:21am
Thanks Angie for your reply. Hopefully I will be a "local" shortly & qualify to demo a board from you.
Adapt
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23 Jan 2013 12:24pm
petedorries said...
Adapt said...
The alley is not the only place now, SUP hire has started at Talley as well and that's dangerous with all the ski boats screaming around. I think one particular business has alot to answer for imo, considering its the same business that has alot of business occuring in currumbin creek and has now set up shop in the back of the Talley caravan park. Bit of a shame one person or group of people can give a complete community a bad name/wrap


I heard the council told them to p*##off a couple of weeks ago. Are they back.


Funny you say that because last week they were working out of the caravan park, when I was taking a school group over near swimming enclosure for a SUP lesson. Not sure if they are there today.
doggie
doggie
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23 Jan 2013 10:29am
BennyB12 said...
doggie said...
Should we have a nation wide ban on SUP rental?

YES

Three guys down at scabs that didnt have a clue in a busy line up and it was obvious that they didnt own the boards, no one got hurt while I was there but one of them nearly fell on a longboarder


So no one got hurt and a long boarder nearly got fell on and your calling for a nation wide ban on hire? Why not a global ban?

It was bad enough that they were there in the first place. There is a couple of guys the SUP surf there and do ok and dont sit behind packs and thats fine, no probs.
SeatrekIII
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23 Jan 2013 1:50pm
mbuzz said...
SeatrekIII said...

Yes who is hiring SUPs to complete novices at Manly? I had mine dinged by a knee paddler at Fairy Bower on the weekend it's madness, luckily it was only my board it could of been worse someone could of been hurt.



www.facebook.com/pages/Sea-Poppy-Shelly-Beach-Paddle-Board-Co/498999350127775


Thanks for that, I rang them and expressed my thoughts, they have assured me they will try and do it better, when I asked how??? They couldn't give me an answer.
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