Tiny repairs to carbon board - what product ?

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Scott79
Scott79
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
1 Jun 2014 1:27pm
Guys,
I have recently bought a Carbon Falcon and have already put 2 very small fractures on the top side of the rail edge, just from clumsy paddling. These fractures are tiny, not a lot wider than the blade of the paddle, but I do want to seal them up. They are nothing to look at, but I know the top surface has been breached.
Any tips on how to seal them up? It won't take much more than a few drops of something, but I don't know what product to use.
I am thinking about applying rail tape across the hard edge of the rail also (top side), to hopefully offer a little more impact resistance in future, am also wondering if this alone will be sufficient to seal them at the same time?

Thanks,
Scott.
JMD
JMD
VIC
14 posts
JMD JMD
VIC, 14 posts
1 Jun 2014 2:01pm
I used PC marine epoxy putty on my carbon board recently, can get from bunnings. Came up very well.
Kieranr
Kieranr
NSW
526 posts
NSW, 526 posts
1 Jun 2014 3:44pm
Try the widest 3M rail tape you can get and wrap it up over the rails. I've done that with both of mine and it's worked a treat.
colas
colas
5392 posts
5392 posts
1 Jun 2014 2:15pm
What I do for cracks:
put some soapy water on it and leave the board in the sun 2minutes. If you see bubbles, it is not waterproof anymore and you must do a proper repair: sand + re glass (or sand + epoxy +microspheres)

If no bubbles, it is only a minor scratch. I just apply a very thin coat of epoxy resin with a gloved finger or a business card
Scott79
Scott79
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
2 Jun 2014 9:50pm
cheers guys.
Colas, I am pretty confident it is more than a scratch, it is definitely the result of a very minor impact, but I think a thin coat of resin will seal it.
Kieran, I am definitely going down the path of rail tape, I don't think it would have cracked if it was taped, or at the very least it wouldn't require any further attention.

Thanks again,
Scott.
latman
latman
QLD
177 posts
QLD, 177 posts
5 Jun 2014 10:49pm
resin will seal it up from leaking but have very little strength , only fibre is strong (glass and carbon are sandable) kevlar and innegra are not
Scott79
Scott79
QLD
209 posts
QLD, 209 posts
15 Jun 2014 9:53am
Would this do the job?

www.oceanearthstore.com/surf-accessories/epoxy-solarcure-resin/

Thanks,
Scott.
Man0verBoard
Man0verBoard
WA
629 posts
WA, 629 posts
15 Jun 2014 9:59am
Yes Scott, you will need to abrade about 5mm around the cracks carefully. Get yourself dome clingfilm and masking tape ready(to stop the film blowing away if there is a breeze). Make sure any vent screws are removed(good opportunity to service/replace the O-ring..a little Vaseline is never a bad thing to prevent the ring from catching and breaking). Make sure your board wont go into a much warmer environment and start heating up as you are doing the repair as the expanding air inside can blow bubbles through your repair in turn leaving a pinhole through it - dark boards heat up very quickly. Preferably(in winter) store your board inside overnight in the warm and do your repair first thing in the morning when its chilly and if anything a minor contracting of the air inside the board will pull the resin into the crack a little bit - again though massive temp difference can pull the pinhole into the board.
Apply a 3mmdiameter bead of solar cure epoxy and carefully lay the clingfilm over without any wrinkles and manipulate until the edged of the resin reach the edges of the abraded areas. Use tape(not directly over the resin) to control the clingfilm.
Practice on one. you can always scrape it off with a brand new razor blade if you muff it.

In my experience repairing the Falcons the blade damage is usually only on the bow rail so you don't necessarily need to do the whole rail.

Also a word of caution. If you have a crack there and don't knit it with a tight resin repair, there is a very serious risk of laceration and large damage if you happen to fall or step on that area.
So please be careful doing temporary repairs!

PS, ensure the board is dry internally first by positioning the board in the sun(with vent plug closed) with the cracks at the lowest point and watch for water or salt crystals to appear. If only a very small amount of salt water or salt crystals, wipe any salt away with fresh water..epoxy loves neither water nor salt!

Here endeth the lesson.
colas
colas
5392 posts
5392 posts
19 Jun 2014 5:01am
Tip: I now use thick flexible clear PVC tape (in hardware shops as tape to "repair things"). Epoxy doesnt stick to it at all.

Ding repairs become a breeze:
- sand lightly for the resin to stick
- apply resin + microspheres, or just epoxy Solarez (out of sunlight), Just enough for the repair, no more.
- cover with the tape, pushing with fingers to be sure the repair is flush with the rest of the board, basically shaping the repair and pushing away any resin excess.
- let harden, or put in the sun for 2-3 minutes for Solarez
- remove the tape, there is barely no need to sand anymore...

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