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Created by Bluehawk 23 days ago, 27 Jun 2019
Bluehawk
NSW, 4 posts
27 Jun 2019 1:05PM
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Gurus - do you have two wetsuits and rotate them or do people just have the one? I have the chance to pick up a new wetsuit for not much coin and was wondering if having two was a bit indulgent. Also recommendations on good wetsuits for SUPing as we have different needs to proner surfers....

copperdog1
VIC, 16 posts
27 Jun 2019 2:13PM
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Given I'm from southern Vicco, my advice might be completely irrelevant , but I have 3 - a shorty for summer (yes even in summer we need some rubber), a unsealed Peak 3/2 steamer for spring/autumn and the full 4/3 sealed quicksilver steamer with boities for winter

JEG
VIC, 1178 posts
27 Jun 2019 2:15PM
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I'm no guru but a maharaja
back in the day you have to have a specific water sport suit but now almost any suit will do the job, soo lucky ay.
if your in the water twice a day or once a day or have the $ then get 2 otherwise 1 if your a weekend warrior like me or have less $.

colas
3248 posts
27 Jun 2019 2:05PM
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Having two is useful if you make a sunset session, then a sunrise session. Or on a trip without a way to properly make the wetsuit dry.

The other solution is to by a quick drying one, like Rip Curl F Series (with the water repellant inside fleece layer). They are a bit stiffer and heavier, and more expensive, but they are dry to the touch in 15mn, the water just runs from them. Also, some brands have the regular inside cloth dry more quickly than others, I have read a test somewhere. Also some are much lighter there.

My solution is having a dryer setup: I hang them in the bathroom in front of a big fan close to the mural towel heather. They dry surprisingly fast, useful on rainy days of after a sunset session.

Also, just dry the inside. No need to waste time drying the outside.

micksmith
VIC, 1312 posts
27 Jun 2019 4:45PM
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I have 3x 3:2 steamers
1x short sleeve 2mm steamer for Autumn/spring and a jacket for summer.
I can take the cold but like getting in to a dry wettie

DaveSandan
VIC, 813 posts
27 Jun 2019 5:06PM
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Weak!!! I have one pair of Viakobi pants and a 1mm long sleeve top for winter and boardies and a rashy for everything else

Nugdam
QLD, 291 posts
27 Jun 2019 5:15PM
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Two is a great option. I would get two different ones a cold and a warm day one.

I have a steamer for cold days and just a wetsuit top for normal winter days... Queensland life.

GreenTea
22 posts
27 Jun 2019 3:49PM
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I live in Vic, reasonably cold water.

I recently bought a Patagonia 3.5 x 3.

After 40 years of surfing I finally have a great wetsuit. Awesome fit, comfortable under the arms, extremely warm and pretty good to get into it.

The old story, 'you get what you pay for'.

riverider
TAS, 935 posts
27 Jun 2019 7:36PM
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Down here in winter I have 2 3/4 steamers & 3 pairs of booties, use a dryer on the wetsuits, takes a hour to dry, but haven't sorted drying for booties yet.




stamp
QLD, 2632 posts
27 Jun 2019 8:14PM
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thanks for this thread - reading it reminded me to get my wet wettie & towel from the back of the car & bring them in to dry by the fire for tomorrow.

JEG
VIC, 1178 posts
27 Jun 2019 10:21PM
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stamp said..
thanks for this thread - reading it reminded me to get my wet wettie & towel from the back of the car & bring them in to dry by the fire for tomorrow.


Wettie in qld?

Gorgo
VIC, 4220 posts
27 Jun 2019 11:07PM
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riverider said..
Down here in winter I have 2 3/4 steamers & 3 pairs of booties, use a dryer on the wetsuits, takes a hour to dry, but haven't sorted drying for booties yet.

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The wetsuit dryer is a wonderful thing. I mostly use mine in late spring.early autumn when suits will stay wet for a week if you don't dry them.

Strangely enough I don't need it all that much in winter in Melbourne. We run the gas heating in the mornings. I hang my suit over the duct and it dries nicely.

You can put stuff inside the wetsuit when you're using the wetsuit dryer. I have used a mesh shopping bag to hang stuff inside so it doesn't fall down and block up the legs (it doesn't do damage but it stops the blocked leg from drying).

After literally decades of trial, I have finally found a method of drying booties then dries them overnight and ends up with no stink at all. It's one of those "Doh!" moments. Simply turn them inside out.

Even 4mm and 5mm booties with fairly stiff soles can be easily turned inside out. Hang them out overnight and they dry nicely.

As for number of wetsuits, I think I've got 8. It's something like two each in 2mm, 3mm, 4mm and 6mm. Most are fairly current generation with a couple of old ones hanging around. I kite or surf almost every day and it's nice to have a clean dry wetsuit to put on.

2mm for sun protection in summer. 3mm for the warmer parts of autumn and spring. 4mm for the cooler parts and 6mm for winter.

Great wetsuits are now so cheap it's pointless to scrimp on them. needessentials.com/

FRP
279 posts
28 Jun 2019 6:57AM
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One suit is fine if you are surfing once a day and have a drier. I have several suits but the O'neil Psycho tech gets 90 % of my use with the drier. I use a ski boot drier called a Dry Guy. The boots go on two prongs and the legs of the wetsuit on the other two. It is heated air and has a timer that is up to two hours, which is enough to dry the suit. I have used this drier for close to ten years without issue. I agree with Colas, I never dry the outside of the suit. With the heated air on the inside the outside air dries quickly. Very important to get your boots dry or they will start to stink in short time.

Cheers

Bob










HOOLIGAN
8 posts
28 Jun 2019 7:57AM
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I've got a 5/4, 4/3 hooded, 4/3 and a 3/2

I may have a rubber fetish....

lam
VIC, 48 posts
28 Jun 2019 2:12PM
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I have 3/2 May to Sept, 2ml shorty for spring-summer-autumn, rashy and or 1.5ml top for warmer months of summer. 4/3 for really cold winter days. Happy to climb into a wet wetty, its going to get wet anyway, sooner rather than later. Surf in Victoria all year round.
Rather get into a wet wetty than not surf at all.

colas
3248 posts
28 Jun 2019 8:44PM
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riverider said..
Down here in winter I have 2 3/4 steamers & 3 pairs of booties, use a dryer on the wetsuits, takes a hour to dry, but haven't sorted drying for booties yet.





Avoid these hangers. I have been using them for years but my wetsuits were destroyed at the shoulders before 2 years.
Now that I fold them over a pool noodle, I have used them for 3 years with no wear sign yet.

Nozza
VIC, 2071 posts
28 Jun 2019 10:57PM
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Wetsuit hangs in the car all day, dries enough for the next day.
Booties I got some heated booty driers that worked quite well, but resulted in the car smelling, as my eldest daughter commented one morning "Really quite bad Dad"
Gave up on booties - reckon doing SUP they make your feet colder by evap cooling them - I always got numb feet in booties, now I just go barefoot all year.

pumpjockey02
241 posts
28 Jun 2019 9:14PM
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Booties in NSW is fine, I like the US ones as the north Cal is very cold. I find, O'neill, Bodyglove and the US brands are better in the colder water. If you use heat in drying the wetsuit you will stretch the neoprene and also start to dissolve the glue so be careful. Just drying on the line will prolong the life of your wetsuit. Most good quality suits should last 4 to 5 years. I like Australian brands for stretch and love quicksilver to paddle in.

Merrick10
4 posts
29 Jun 2019 8:38AM
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Here in Vic its a 2mm steamer for Spring/Autumn, Boardies and a 2mm top for summer and 2 x 4/3 F-Bombs for winter with booties. However for an old fart the 4/3 has to be with a back zip, got one with a chest zip and its a bit of a workout to get on/off . My new 4/3 F-Bomb in E5 is a big improvement over the E3 rubber. I certainly do not have the flexibility to fight my way in to a zip free.
Also found a short burst in the sun for the booties (inside out) helps kill the stink.

micksmith
VIC, 1312 posts
29 Jun 2019 7:50PM
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Anyone with shoulder/flexibility problems should take a look at Matuse Dante it has made my life a lot easier for wetsuit wearing, easy on easy off. Check it

Langers
VIC, 71 posts
29 Jun 2019 9:02PM
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Can't have too many wetsuits.

Rossall
WA, 511 posts
30 Jun 2019 9:28PM
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My winter suit is a Ripcurl 2mm/2mm Zipperless Flash Bomb. Superb suit and despite being only 2 mm is super warm and dries out in a couple of hours due to the special lining.

surfinJ
429 posts
1 Jul 2019 4:37PM
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Rossall said..
My winter suit is a Ripcurl 2mm/2mm Zipperless Flash Bomb. Superb suit and despite being only 2 mm is super warm and dries out in a couple of hours due to the special lining.


This is the suit I'm using most as it covers most of the fall and spring. And yea it drys fast.

I'm hooked on these zipperless flashbombs. For the winter I alternate days with 3/2 and a 3/4. It is the winter that yields the fruit of having more than one suit. When surfing on consecutive days there is always a dryish suit to pull on.
A wet wettie on a cold morning is nice to avoid.

Gboots
NSW, 691 posts
1 Jul 2019 7:44PM
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Merrick10 said..
Here in Vic its a 2mm steamer for Spring/Autumn, Boardies and a 2mm top for summer and 2 x 4/3 F-Bombs for winter with booties. However for an old fart the 4/3 has to be with a back zip, got one with a chest zip and its a bit of a workout to get on/off . My new 4/3 F-Bomb in E5 is a big improvement over the E3 rubber. I certainly do not have the flexibility to fight my way in to a zip free.
Also found a short burst in the sun for the booties (inside out) helps kill the stink.



I tried my brothers chest zip and nearly died trying to get out. Are there many others still using a back zip ? They seem so easy

Seriously feel like I will do a rotator cuff injury or other neck / shoulder strain getting out of anything but a back zip suit

colas
3248 posts
1 Jul 2019 8:03PM
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Gboots said..
I tried my brothers chest zip and nearly died trying to get out. Are there many others still using a back zip ? They seem so easy


Chest zip were a boon for me. I could struggle for so long with the back zips, especially the zip getting stuck in the various gimmicks trying to get the thing waterproof. And the added flexibility is so great...

For getting out of chest zips, the trip is only focusing on just getting the wetsuit past the left elbow.

Hoppo3228
VIC, 315 posts
1 Jul 2019 10:23PM
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As somebody who has started a business within this area specifically:

Basically if you have broad shoulders a back zip will suit better for ease of on/off. For absolute performance a zip free or chest zip will offer a little more shoulder freedom. For SUP i really don't think it matters much for normal guys Sup Surfing... the benefit of the shoulder freedom on the chest zip suits is mostly for when you prone paddle a surfboard, not when you stand up paddle.

Having said all of this, the best wetsuit you can buy is one that fits you properly. It is as simple as, if it doesn't fit you well it won't work properly. Too many surfers buy a stock size (or 2) too small for suits thinking that it creates a snug seal around the neck/sleeves/cuffs... this makes the suit wear out 50% faster, as the neoprene is over stretched with every use, putting added stress on the seams/seals/glue and neoprene...

Also, many (not all) of the mainstream brands suits are cut to suit teenage body types as that is their target market... another thing to consider if you are not built like that any longer.

Bighugg
NT, 222 posts
1 Jul 2019 10:46PM
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Hoppo3228 said..
As somebody who has started a business within this area specifically:

Basically if you have broad shoulders a back zip will suit better for ease of on/off. For absolute performance a zip free or chest zip will offer a little more shoulder freedom. For SUP i really don't think it matters much for normal guys Sup Surfing... the benefit of the shoulder freedom on the chest zip suits is mostly for when you prone paddle a surfboard, not when you stand up paddle.

Having said all of this, the best wetsuit you can buy is one that fits you properly. It is as simple as, if it doesn't fit you well it won't work properly. Too many surfers buy a stock size (or 2) too small for suits thinking that it creates a snug seal around the neck/sleeves/cuffs... this makes the suit wear out 50% faster, as the neoprene is over stretched with every use, putting added stress on the seams/seals/glue and neoprene...

Also, many (not all) of the mainstream brands suits are cut to suit teenage body types as that is their target market... another thing to consider if you are not built like that any longer.


Agree with you on body shape and fit, don't think I ever was in target market.
O'Neill gear just feels right for me and lasts,loving back zip.
Front zipper Rip Curl n Quick Silver wear in the shoulder alot quicker on me.
3 wetsuits, for winter so they really dry out.
Have 90mm PVC pipe as draping rails in wind tunnel carport for fresh rinsed suits to drain n dry. Then inside to warm..... repeat....

kitemantim
108 posts
2 Jul 2019 5:03AM
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As I have got older and rounder, the main brands don't fit, I paid the extra and got a custom and never looked back well worth the money and got within 10 business days. Have a look at seventhwave in NZ ships worldwide, ps no links apart from happy user.

Gboots
NSW, 691 posts
2 Jul 2019 10:07AM
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Hoppo3228 said..
As somebody who has started a business within this area specifically:

Basically if you have broad shoulders a back zip will suit better for ease of on/off. For absolute performance a zip free or chest zip will offer a little more shoulder freedom. For SUP i really don't think it matters much for normal guys Sup Surfing... the benefit of the shoulder freedom on the chest zip suits is mostly for when you prone paddle a surfboard, not when you stand up paddle.

Having said all of this, the best wetsuit you can buy is one that fits you properly. It is as simple as, if it doesn't fit you well it won't work properly. Too many surfers buy a stock size (or 2) too small for suits thinking that it creates a snug seal around the neck/sleeves/cuffs... this makes the suit wear out 50% faster, as the neoprene is over stretched with every use, putting added stress on the seams/seals/glue and neoprene...

Also, many (not all) of the mainstream brands suits are cut to suit teenage body types as that is their target market... another thing to consider if you are not built like that any longer.


We need a Dad Bod Suit

colas
3248 posts
2 Jul 2019 2:56PM
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kitemantim said..
As I have got older and rounder, the main brands don't fit, I paid the extra and got a custom and never looked back well worth the money and got within 10 business days. Have a look at seventhwave in NZ ships worldwide, ps no links apart from happy user.


Yes, and there is also the "tweaking" option: just have the arms & legs cut off a bit, it is free at the Rip Curl factories for instance. I am normally close to an XLS size but which is becoming more and more unavailable, so I just use a standard XL size with 4" cut off from the legs and 2" from the arms. I used to go custom, but alas the quality of the custom wetsuits in France I could find was nowhere near the big surfing brands. And the newcomers (Vissla etc) have even less sizing choices.

Gorgo
VIC, 4220 posts
2 Jul 2019 5:19PM
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needEssentials do their suits in short, medium and tall sizings for M,L and XL sizes. They also do XXL for really big people.

needessentials.com/pages/size-chart

The trick with any chest or no zip suit is to remove it a bit at a time and to push the suit off, don't pull. Pulling just stretches the suit and makes it grip tighter. You can tear the fabric.

Push the neck or hood over your head. Push the inner neck over one shoulder then the other. Push it down to your biceps, and so on.

I got rid of all my old back zip suits. Chest zips work so much better.
This guys struggles because he has no shoulders to catch the neck of the suit. That would be a bugger.



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