What board to win the surfboard class in racing?

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BillyD
BillyD
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9 Mar 2016 3:26am
Apologies if this has already been discussed in other threads, I've searched for it but couldn't find it.

More and more race events now have a 'surfboard class', which is basically anything that is not a full-on 12'6 raceboard. Any thoughts on what would be a good board to use for this? I'm mainly thinking about 'technical racing', (ie BoP style) so punching out through the surf, and being able to catch and ride waves in are as important as pure boardspeed.

The surfboard class in the technical racing at our recent Nat Champs here in NZ were won by a guy on a Starboard Blend (11'2 x 30) which did look a pretty good allround package for the conditions; long enough to be fairly fast in a straight line, but easy to catch a wave and straight-line it in on. (Definitely a major aspect of technical racing, being able to straight-line in; gotta be able to get right back on that tail and survive the drop when the wave breaks).

Anyone got any thoughts on this? I want to buy a board to race on in the surfboard class - but I'm also thinking that actually a long fast board would be kinda fun to have in the quiver anyway for getting out to some of the offshore bombies that occasionally fire up in a big swell.
Loz79
Loz79
QLD
459 posts
QLD, 459 posts
9 Mar 2016 8:27am
Check out the Atlantis Venom....Something like this would be ideal. I've seen it perform in the surf and it was impressive...
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Atlantis-Venom/
nosaj27
nosaj27
QLD
271 posts
QLD, 271 posts
9 Mar 2016 8:54am
BillyD said..
Apologies if this has already been discussed in other threads, I've searched for it but couldn't find it.

More and more race events now have a 'surfboard class', which is basically anything that is not a full-on 12'6 raceboard. Any thoughts on what would be a good board to use for this? I'm mainly thinking about 'technical racing', (ie BoP style) so punching out through the surf, and being able to catch and ride waves in are as important as pure boardspeed.

The surfboard class in the technical racing at our recent Nat Champs here in NZ were won by a guy on a Starboard Blend (11'2 x 30) which did look a pretty good allround package for the conditions; long enough to be fairly fast in a straight line, but easy to catch a wave and straight-line it in on. (Definitely a major aspect of technical racing, being able to straight-line in; gotta be able to get right back on that tail and survive the drop when the wave breaks).

Anyone got any thoughts on this? I want to buy a board to race on in the surfboard class - but I'm also thinking that actually a long fast board would be kinda fun to have in the quiver anyway for getting out to some of the offshore bombies that occasionally fire up in a big swell.


How do they define surfboard class is it by length (e.g. <12'6") or shape? If it is by length I reckon you wouldn't go too badly on something like a Starboard Freeride (http://star-board-sup.com/2016/boards/12-2-x-30-freeride/), they also go ok downwind, not sure about their surfability though.
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
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QLD, 3381 posts
9 Mar 2016 9:04am
Don't forget what this class is about!! if you are buying a board to win this class you are doing it all wrong!!

BillyD
BillyD
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9 Mar 2016 7:14am
Yeah Paul, I totally hear you on that. I was pondering the ethics of the question even as I was writing it. Sadly I think the class is already compromised, lots of people use SIC Recons etc which are clearly designed to be a raceboard in all but name. But I'm not just looking to get a board to race in that class, I like the idea of a genuinely fast, cruisy waveboard anyway. And that Atlantis Venom looks the absolute dogs - thanks for that lead Loz79!
Area10
Area10
1508 posts
1508 posts
9 Mar 2016 7:55am
A PSH 12ft gun would do it, if you can find one secondhand. It paddles well, as long as you aren't a huge unit.
Hawaiiheke
Hawaiiheke
319 posts
319 posts
9 Mar 2016 8:15am
Surfboard class defined on page 15 here:

www.facebook.com/notes/nz-sup-nationals/nzsup-nationals-2016-race-notice/546059132215213

12'6" maximum length, no weight restriction and surfboard-like rocker profile, nose and rail shape.

The Venom would and PSH 12 would do the trick. The Freeride has a v entry(?) so probably not what you would call surfboard-style nose shape?

12'6" seems pretty damn generous though.

They should perhaps adjust to 12' max with a rounded surfboard nose shape?
PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
9 Mar 2016 2:15pm
Hawaiiheke said..
Surfboard class defined on page 15 here:

www.facebook.com/notes/nz-sup-nationals/nzsup-nationals-2016-race-notice/546059132215213

12'6" maximum length, no weight restriction and surfboard-like rocker profile, nose and rail shape.

The Venom would and PSH 12 would do the trick. The Freeride has a v entry(?) so probably not what you would call surfboard-style nose shape?

12'6" seems pretty damn generous though.

They should perhaps adjust to 12' max with a rounded surfboard nose shape?


Starboard used to make a 12'6" surf shape board so that's probably why they are being so generous.
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
9 Mar 2016 2:30pm
PTWoody said..

Hawaiiheke said..
Surfboard class defined on page 15 here:

www.facebook.com/notes/nz-sup-nationals/nzsup-nationals-2016-race-notice/546059132215213

12'6" maximum length, no weight restriction and surfboard-like rocker profile, nose and rail shape.

The Venom would and PSH 12 would do the trick. The Freeride has a v entry(?) so probably not what you would call surfboard-style nose shape?

12'6" seems pretty damn generous though.

They should perhaps adjust to 12' max with a rounded surfboard nose shape?



Starboard used to make a 12'6" surf shape board so that's probably why they are being so generous.


I would think 11.6 would be long enough. they need a minimum width too. and some kind of thickness control too

to me its about paddlers staying on their boards more so it doesn't look like gumby hour which is what usually happens in qld anyway- because they are held in some onshore crappy beach break as far away as possible from any decent break.

even the elite look like they have never tried it before sometimes.

its not a good look if you don't understand how had it is.

so if you don't stop them by rules they'll come up with something that near unrideable - again
And then
And then
VIC
120 posts
VIC, 120 posts
8 May 2016 10:26am
If there was a surfing specific category that the same boards could be (also be) used in then that could be great too. One board two potential uses.

I think max length should be 12 foot. Thoughts?
AndyR
AndyR
QLD
1344 posts
QLD, 1344 posts
8 May 2016 10:44am
The venom or psh made in the 10ft range for surfboard racing would be my idea of a great fun board. Im a kook in surf but always found even a 12"6 pretty hard to handle in the couple of proper surf bop racers ive done.
Smash1
Smash1
NSW
826 posts
NSW, 826 posts
8 May 2016 12:07pm
I have the Venom......................an amazing board. I usually ride small Starby carbon SUPs, but the Venom is an awesome fun wave and flat water board. It will be part of my quiver for this weeks surf trip to Green Island where the surf is forecast to be massive. Will be a great test for it.....and me!!
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